I pretty much deserve my chat restriction.

KilljoyX·Apr 7, 2016·1 votes·609 views

I really do. I raged all game because I was stuck in the game with a premade I hated. They troll pick all around and ping me into stuff that gets me killed and set behind. I raged all game. I do deserve the chat restriction.

I cannot help but rage at premades. Unfortunately riot is moving toward a premade or get paired with premade mentality which ruins the game for me. Eventually I'll likely get banned. It's unfortunate but the likely occurrence. Really just cannot stand 4 people trying to tell me what to do. The inability to mute pings basically makes me listen to the BMing.

19 Comments

entitledplayerApr 7, 20162 votes

Then you need to learn to block it out.

First step is knowing the rules and limitations of what's punishable, second step you've already done by admitting your sin.

Start f12'ing harassment and use it in your reports -- All it takes is one player-submitted report to trigger a review and if they're doing things like this, then you need to get them off the rift.

If you need to know where to get your screenshots, C:\Riot Games\League of Legends\Screenshots.

KilljoyXApr 7, 20161 votes

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Then you need to learn to block it out.

First step is knowing the rules and limitations of what's punishable, second step you've already done by admitting your sin.

Start f12'ing harassment and use it in your reports -- All it takes is one player-submitted report to trigger a review and if they're doing things like this, then you need to get them off the rift.

If you need to know where to get your screenshots, C:\Riot Games\League of Legends\Screenshots.

I know it's not punishable and that's what is so irritating. I just want to play with 7-9 other solo players which I used to be able to do. I have not had a game where it was mostly solo players in over 40 games. I'm going to be banned because of premades and riots choice to create dynamic que which removed my ability to play games without being forced into premades and raging at them. I've had an issue with premades since season 2 but now there's nothing I can do about it.

entitledplayerApr 7, 20162 votes

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I know it's not punishable and that's what is so irritating. I just want to play with 7-9 other solo players which I used to be able to do. I have not had a game where it was mostly solo players in over 40 games. I'm going to be banned because of premades and riots choice to create dynamic que which removed my ability to play games without being forced into premades and raging at them. I've had an issue with premades since season 2 but now there's nothing I can do about it.

Yes, there is : Say nothing.

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Actually, Erdrik is correct here.

A report flags a game for review. They do not establish guilt. The game is then reviewed for harassment, feeding, etc. This is why 'troll reporting' or 'gang reporting' do not work. False or inaccurate reports are thrown out.

You cannot ever be punished for saying nothing .. unless of course it's for something gameplay related like feeding, afking or cheating. But, you can never be punished for offensive language, hate speech or verbal abuse if you said nothing.

You cannot be banned for using /mute all , and focusing on hardcarrying.

KilljoyXApr 7, 20161 votes

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Yes, there is : Say nothing.

You cannot be banned for using /mute all , and focusing on hardcarrying.

you cannot mute pings.

entitledplayerApr 7, 20162 votes

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you cannot mute pings.

Learn to ignore pings you know contextually mean nothing, and record the screenshot of the spam, so Riot can know they're spamming them just to spam them.

Troll for TrumpApr 7, 20162 votes

You can't "learn to mute pings".

Heck, you might as well tell a person with Parkinson's to not do shaky movement. It's something that can't be controlled. You shouldn't be forced to go through such a hell with premades that you even lose the ability to type. Great, they control your pick, they control how you play, they influence your build, they tell you what to do, they rarely type anything constructive in chat, spend the game on skype, use real names so you don't understand what's going on etc.

entitledplayerApr 7, 20161 votes

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You can't "learn to mute pings".

Heck, you might as well tell a person with Parkinson's to not do shaky movement. It's something that can't be controlled. You shouldn't be forced to go through such a hell with premades that you even lose the ability to type. Great, they control your pick, they control how you play, they influence your build, they tell you what to do, they rarely type anything constructive in chat, spend the game on skype, use real names so you don't understand what's going on etc.

Actually, my words did not say "learn to mute pings." I said:

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Learn to ignore pings you know contextually mean nothing, and record the screenshot of the spam, so Riot can know they're spamming them just to spam them.

-- Which means, he as a player needs to learn that no-direction pings that have no context behind them need to be ignored -- Meaning (s)he can't figure out that this ping at this time means 'drop a ward', or 'it's warded', or ' enemy is camping right here', it's a ping they don't look at and they don't waste time on -- Which is something he'd know and learn from having map awareness on rotations;

As such, that's something they can learn. This is not about the difference of the diseased not being able to stop themselves -- This is something on a basis of mechanical and intellectual understand and training;

So please do not try to purport that learning some APM skills is equal to the level of severity in which a person cannot bio-mechanically get their bodies to do; One of these is an actually heartbreaking fact of life for a person, another is something that's generally trivial.

Furthermore, no one but you is responsible for your actions -- at all times. So no, you cannot play that lie -- If they're tilting you purposfully, you need to mute them, f12 what is being done or said, and suffer the win or loss, report them with the evidence, and move on -- Full-stop, Period.

At no time can you be confused on what's going on as long as you can figure out what you need to say or do -- That's why people refer to players by champion name.

-smh-

Seriously, the mental gymnastics you're doing on this floor routine to prove how Premades rule everything isn't impressive -- it's deplorable and a lie, because Premades don't have that kind of power and control that you think they have, because by being tilted by it you're _ GIVING_ them the control and rage they want out of you if it is intentional actions.

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Actually, Erdrik is correct here.

A report flags a game for review. They do not establish guilt. The game is then reviewed for harassment, feeding, etc. This is why 'troll reporting' or 'gang reporting' do not work. False or inaccurate reports are thrown out.

You cannot ever be punished for saying nothing .. unless of course it's for something gameplay related like feeding, afking or cheating. But, you can never be punished for offensive language, hate speech or verbal abuse if you said nothing.

If this is so bad like you're purporting, then say nothing.

Period.

[slayer-jinx-unamused]

KilljoyXApr 7, 20161 votes

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Actually, my words did not say "learn to mute pings." I said:

-- Which means, he as a player needs to learn that no-direction pings that have no context behind them need to be ignored -- Meaning (s)he can't figure out that this ping at this time means 'drop a ward', or 'it's warded', or ' enemy is camping right here', it's a ping they don't look at and they don't waste time on -- Which is something he'd know and learn from having map awareness on rotations;

As such, that's something they can learn. This is not about the difference of the diseased not being able to stop themselves -- This is something on a basis of mechanical and intellectual understand and training;

So please do not try to purport that learning some APM skills is equal to the level of severity in which a person cannot bio-mechanically get their bodies to do; One of these is an actually heartbreaking fact of life for a person, another is something that's generally trivial.

Furthermore, no one but you is responsible for your actions -- at all times. So no, you cannot play that lie -- If they're tilting you purposfully, you need to mute them, f12 what is being done or said, and suffer the win or loss, report them with the evidence, and move on -- Full-stop, Period.

At no time can you be confused on what's going on as long as you can figure out what you need to say or do -- That's why people refer to players by champion name.

-smh-

Seriously, the mental gymnastics you're doing on this floor routine to prove how Premades rule everything isn't impressive -- it's deplorable and a lie, because Premades don't have that kind of power and control that you think they have, because by being tilted by it you're _ GIVING_ them the control and rage they want out of you if it is intentional actions.

If this is so bad like you're purporting, then say nothing.

Period.

It's really unfortunate that punishing premades for this is not the prevailing attitude because they don't type and they are in skype. This attitude is why I cannot stand premades because the position of riot and the community is "Let them abuse you and troll you."

entitledplayerApr 7, 20161 votes

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It's really unfortunate that punishing premades for this is not the prevailing attitude because they don't type and they are in skype. This attitude is why I cannot stand premades because the position of riot and the community is "Let them abuse you and troll you."

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If a report is sent in to us we investigate it to our fullest ability, and screenshots are a huge help when we are doing an investigation (no, seriously we love when you guys include screenshots in a report) especially in instances where negative or abusive behavior happens outside of a game (chat rooms, Client IMs, pre or postgame chat). Now while reports are sent in, there is no guarantee that someone is going to get punished, like all of our other behavior punishments only those who have actually done something deserving of a punishment will receive one.

If you want to grab a screenshot of something that happened outside of the game you can print screen and past the file into any visual media program you may have (mspaint comes to mind because I don't know a lot of them :P). Or you can use the snipping tool to snip the part of the screen you need and save it as an image. In game its easy as hitting F12 to take a screenshot.

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I have heard this as well, but the "Reporting in anything outside of SR/Ranked will not do anything" belief is far from true :). As many players who received punishments from their misbehavior in ARAM games can confirm, receiving reports from other players in any game mode can result in a punishment being issued.

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Actually, Erdrik is correct here.

A report flags a game for review. They do not establish guilt. The game is then reviewed for harassment, feeding, etc. This is why 'troll reporting' or 'gang reporting' do not work. False or inaccurate reports are thrown out.

You cannot ever be punished for saying nothing .. unless of course it's for something gameplay related like feeding, afking or cheating. But, you can never be punished for offensive language, hate speech or verbal abuse if you said nothing.

Do you like telling lies to yourself?

Because three quotes in context towards handling problems of this nature unanimously break down that you as the player have the power to prevent seeing this toxicity, recording it as evidence, and then using that evidence to get those players punished in question by being part of the silent majority, and that any false gang-reports made against you have no weight should the be proven false -- which is magnanimous, since you don't have any proof other than your words and opinion to prove any and every pre-made group of players is dead-set on ruining your experience.

You can say what you want, but what you're claiming and saying is not true of Riot's mentality of the matter -- It's pretty damning that you're vehement no the matter because it strikes a personal vendetta for you on premades.

Troll for TrumpApr 7, 20161 votes

You can't ignore them in the way that you can block out typing. Best you can do is reduce sound, but then you can't hear certain abilities i.e. Sion/Reksai ults. It's basically impossible to "learn to ignore".

How would you suggest learning to ignore pings?

Yeah, I get tilted by things easy. That can't be changed.

Getting offended by pings is just as trivial as getting offended by almost anything that falls under "unsportsmanlike conduct". "Just a game, why you hafta be mad"

I'm responsible for my actions, and I think retaliation is justified. Most people agree on that. If someone is toxic, you have to do something instead of sitting there and staring blankly.

I can't say nothing. I can't stand the people being complete douchebags the whole game, especially if I'm locked in it for over half a hour because they keep saying "no" to surrender votes.

Do you enjoy playing LoL with a empty chat log?

Playing league without anyone typing is boring.

entitledplayerApr 7, 20161 votes

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You can't ignore them in the way that you can block out typing. Best you can do is reduce sound, but then you can't hear certain abilities i.e. Sion/Reksai ults. It's basically impossible to "learn to ignore".

How would you suggest learning to ignore pings?

You need your eyes checked. I'm going to post this again, make sure you read the words this time:

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Learn to ignore pings you know contextually mean nothing, and record the screenshot of the spam, so Riot can know they're spamming them just to spam them.

'Learn to ignore contextually meaningless pings' is not hard to do and it's very easy to ignore;

If they ping you for anything that is a play they are not involved in, you ignore it by not following it or listening to it.

2 people knocking on the base door, and they ping to do baron -- Ignore it.
They keep passive-aggressively MIA pinging your positions when they die to rotations based on ward they ignore dthat spotted rotation? -- Ignore it.

Anything that is a ping that you know has no reason to be used, you ignore it and focus on the map awareness.

Getting offended by pings is just as trivial as getting offended by almost anything that falls under "unsportsmanlike conduct". "Just a game, why you hafta be mad"

It's actually not, because it's punishable to spam pings in the fashion to actively piss off players and troll them by drowning out game sounds and make the minimap impossible to read due to the after-effects of the ping effect -- They're reducing your vision of the minimap and making your League experience unfun.

I'm responsible for my actions, and I think retaliation is justified. Most people agree on that. If someone is toxic, you have to do something instead of sitting there and staring blankly.

I can't say nothing. I can't stand the people being complete douchebags the whole game, especially if I'm locked in it for over half a hour because they keep saying "no" to surrender votes.

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A report flags a game for review. They do not establish guilt. The game is then reviewed for harassment, feeding, etc. This is why 'troll reporting' or 'gang reporting' do not work. False or inaccurate reports are thrown out.

You cannot ever be punished for saying nothing .. unless of course it's for something gameplay related like feeding, afking or cheating. But, you can never be punished for offensive language, hate speech or verbal abuse if you said nothing.

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If a report is sent in to us we investigate it to our fullest ability, and screenshots are a huge help when we are doing an investigation (no, seriously we love when you guys include screenshots in a report) especially in instances where negative or abusive behavior happens outside of a game (chat rooms, Client IMs, pre or postgame chat). Now while reports are sent in, there is no guarantee that someone is going to get punished, like all of our other behavior punishments only those who have actually done something deserving of a punishment will receive one.

If you want to grab a screenshot of something that happened outside of the game you can print screen and past the file into any visual media program you may have (mspaint comes to mind because I don't know a lot of them :P). Or you can use the snipping tool to snip the part of the screen you need and save it as an image. In game its easy as hitting F12 to take a screenshot.

It's literally as simple as pressing F12 when they try this, attaching it to the report, and moving on.

If you need to play with others with whom you work will with, do so to reduce the number of unsavory factors -- If not, learn to train yourself to record evidence of suspected trolling while maintaining the silent majority.

Do you enjoy playing LoL with a empty chat log?

Considering I can focus on the match and hardcarry, and communicate sparingly, even when I've used /mute all, It doesn't affect me -- I don't care for a giant chat, and I don't mind a low-communication one.

Playing league without anyone typing is boring.

Then you need to actually sit down and watch a high elo LoL stream: it's very nearly low text-communication, because of VoIP software usage and upper tier skill using non-verbal communication.

Troll for TrumpApr 8, 20161 votes

I know what you typed, and I was replying to it. Holy crap, when I say "not ignoring" the ping, that doesn't mean I follow it. If they spam ping my dead body, that's annoying. Most people can't ignore it. You can't ignore it on focus on map awareness if the ping covers the entire minimap, keeps ringing in the ears, and is just annoying.

More often than not, they just spam pings on the dead body, so you can't do anything anyways

If it's punishable, why do you suggest to just ignore it.

So there's a toxic person on your team, you have to AFK, take a screenshot, and go out of your way to do it, when they will most likely not be punished except in extreme cases.

If you need to play with others with whom you work will with, do so to reduce the number of unsavory factors -- If not, learn to train yourself to record evidence of suspected trolling while maintaining the silent majority.

Oh so the argument is "if you don't like dynamic queue, join a premade"? Yeah, it's not training. Really need to get off your high horse there.

Yes, and I can focus on the match and hardcarry while typing, and having a actually fun time.

If you aren't having fun while playing, why bother playing at all. It's boring.

entitledplayerApr 8, 20161 votes

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I know what you typed, and I was replying to it. Holy crap, when I say "not ignoring" the ping, that doesn't mean I follow it. If they spam ping my dead body, that's annoying. Most people can't ignore it. You can't ignore it on focus on map awareness if the ping covers the entire minimap, keeps ringing in the ears, and is just annoying.

More often than not, they just spam pings on the dead body, so you can't do anything anyways

If it's punishable, why do you suggest to just ignore it.

Because if/when you retaliate by calling them out on it past the point of reason, you're opening yourself up to validate any harassment reports they send -- It's called flamebaiting, smart one.

You ignore it.

So there's a toxic person on your team, you have to AFK, take a screenshot, and go out of your way to do it, when they will most likely not be punished except in extreme cases.

You don't need to AFK to take a screen capture by using the F12 key, which is something I have literally 3 times mentioned by quote at this point -- which is how I know you're not reading my posts in full and doing mental gymnastics to keep it about how you have no power when that's clearly not the case.

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If you want to grab a screenshot of something that happened outside of the game you can print screen and past the file into any visual media program you may have (mspaint comes to mind because I don't know a lot of them :P). Or you can use the snipping tool to snip the part of the screen you need and save it as an image. In game its easy as hitting F12 to take a screenshot.

The location of your screenshots folder when using it during a match is:

C:\Riot Games\League of Legends\Screenshots

Oh so the argument is "if you don't like dynamic queue, join a premade"? Yeah, it's not training. Really need to get off your high horse there. Where did I anywhere say that? I said if you need to reduce the amount of trolls in your match, get some persons you trust to play with you, so you can have a better experience.

I did not blindly say " join a premade if you don't like it ", because that's the opposite intended effect, if we go by your logic here.

My argumentation is:

You need to learn to deal with this, and use every tool at your disposal -- not come here to complain about how you don't have power because you don't understand at the fundamental level how the system works, and how you can play it to get it in your favor by doing what you're supposed to be doing -- playing the game, and not letting a flamebaiter get you to take the fall for their amusement.

Yes, and I can focus on the match and hardcarry while typing, and having a actually fun time.

Then why are you making excuses and not doing it? Seems to be "premades" have you by the balls with crippling fear and rage.

If you aren't having fun while playing, why bother playing at all. It's boring.

Then why are you here, complaining? If the game isn't fun for you and you think we're all against you, then don't play the game and stop wasting your time and energy worrying about it.

Door's that way -- You check out anytime you like, but you can never leave until you choose to.

Your problem, your choice.

Make one before Nagakabourous sends Illaoi to teach you this lesson the hard way.

Troll for TrumpApr 8, 20161 votes

Great it's a lose lose situation. Either get annoyed to death, or get reported. Aight. Just retaliate subtly.

You have to afk to stand still, enlargen the HUD take the snapshot etc etc. Same reasoning as why people tell others to not type ingame. I didn't ask where the screenshot was.

Why are you forced to do something as far out of your way as doing that?

You need to learn to deal with this, and use every tool at your disposal -- not come here to complain about how you don't have power because you don't understand at the fundamental level how the system works, and how you can play it to get it in your favor by doing what you're supposed to be doing -- playing the game, and not letting a flamebaiter get you to take the fall for their amusement.

I don't come here and complain, It's not complaining, it's stating the truth. I know how the system works, and it's flawed. Too many people get flamebaited through various means, and the flamebaiters won't get punished if they do it correctly. Most people don't screenshot either, and most don't want to go out of the way to do it. Forcing you to go out of your way and wasting time while still keeping you on tilt are things they want you to do.

How is it making excuses? I'm saying it's ANNOYING. Tons of people have issues with premades and the hell they bring into ranked. Just look up one of the BringBackSoloQueue etc. posts that get upvoted so often.

Then why are you here, complaining? If the game isn't fun for you and you think we're all against you, then don't play the game and stop wasting your time and energy worrying about it.

I'm not complaining, I've already been playing.

Did I say the game wasn't fun? Did you ever say you had fun? Why are you sitting here on the forums being, hence your name, entitled and being an asshole to everyone, instead of playing the game? Premades are against the solo queuers. You get a 4man queue and a solo queue, and the solo queue will be ganged up against.

It's not my problem, it's the tons of people who've been dealing with the dynamic queue issues, among the other problems that have surfaced as of recent.

Stop being a entitled asshole.

entitledplayerApr 8, 20161 votes

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Stop being a entitled asshole.

I'm not being an entitled asshole, which is the point of the semi-ironic name I chose to name this account -- that I can debate and reason with posters by not being entitled --, I'm speaking from experience. Take a moment to go through those photos, you'll see that this is what F12'ing looks like, and it literally only requires pressing F12, or holding Z and pressing F12 -- either in real-time, or when you have downtime on your lane.

You can't post those here, however -- They aren't doctored to block names.

You're behaving like an overtly unjustified player who doesn't like dissenting opinions that are 100% correct to what Riot has gone on record in my quote sources as being the actions you should be taking.

And yes, you are complaining about a system that you find unfair and stacked against you -- But I doubt you'd listen even if a Rioter told you exactly what I'm telling you with more sugar and honey.

If this is such a problem to you that you can't practice what I preach and obviously by the link do often, then you need to stop shouting to the heavens, and stop wasting your time and spend your time on something else.

Everyone has to deal with negativity, you're choosing to focus and worry on the wrong things for the right reasons.

Either stop posturing and make a choice to yourself on what you need to do, or stop being aggressive to me because I'm saying what's the right choice that you don't want to make.

Troll for TrumpApr 8, 20161 votes

Pretty sure a ton of people think the system is fked up. It just is. It's unfair/stacked against nonpremades, among other things.

A ton of your posts have you acting obnoxious, to say the least.

You are conveying the information in the posts you make everywhere, but you keep adding little jabs. Being "Passive-aggressive".

I said it's an issue. It's an annoying issue. Like how people hated devourer's Yi. It doesn't make the game unplayable, but it hinders how enjoyable the game is.

Your choice isn't the right choice; The system should be able to detect these things. We shouldn't have to deal with it; Bring back the old queueing system, or implant Team Builder, either one works. Not everyone should just play a game, see a toxic person, then go screenshot, create a support ticket postgame, and send it to a Rioter. Either do something ingame, or just press the tiny report game, or do both. Don't go through all the trouble to report someone to Riot. Go ingame, find the person that's spam pinging, and just tell him to shut up. Spam pings back. Say "?" when they die. Small, convenient things you can do that still have effect.

entitledplayerApr 8, 20161 votes

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Pretty sure a ton of people think the system is fked up. It just is. It's unfair/stacked against nonpremades, among other things.

A ton of your posts have you acting obnoxious, to say the least.

You are conveying the information in the posts you make everywhere, but you keep adding little jabs. Being "Passive-aggressive".

I have not once been passive-aggressive -- I have been discussing this with you for what literally can be tracked as all day.

Unlike you, apparently, I can separate my professional opinion from my personal opinion of someone/thing and have a discussion with them -- Because a disagreement is not the grounds or makings of hostility.

That's 100% you, and just you. You're looking for what doesn't exist, and throwing up your hands to say is harassment, passive-aggressive leanings, and plain toxicity -- While actively ignoring every nasty piece of your personal opinion that you continue to throw at me for ad hominem attacks.

What did I do to you? How did I hurt you? Tell me, quote it, source it -- If you can't do that, stop muckraking and get some perspective.

I am not your enemy, nor are you mine -- Your enemy is the argumentation, and vice versa-- Stop trying to make this personal.

I said it's an issue. It's an annoying issue. Like how people hated devourer's Yi. It doesn't make the game unplayable, but it hinders how enjoyable the game is.

If you can't counterplay the mechanics that go into beating a easy jungler with a scaling power threat, that means you need to practice more;

However, that's irrelevant to this discussion.

Your choice isn't the right choice; The system should be able to detect these things. We shouldn't have to deal with it; Bring back the old queueing system, or implant Team Builder, either one works. Not everyone should just play a game, see a toxic person, then go screenshot, create a support ticket postgame, and send it to a Rioter. Either do something ingame, or just press the tiny report game, or do both. Don't go through all the trouble to report someone to Riot. Go ingame, find the person that's spam pinging, and just tell him to shut up. Spam pings back. Say "?" when they die. Small, convenient things you can do that still have effect.

Except all of what you described would make you punishable by the system, because you cannot go eye-for-an-eye -- It leaves the community blind with salt, shade, and rage.

Riot does not want that for you. I do not want that for you, and you could do so much better.

You need to learn to be part of the silent majority, or find a way to hit the balance between thought-provoking wisdom and audacious flair.

What you're doing, and talking about doing isn't right. But again, your choice to make.

Make a good one.

LintheApr 7, 20161 votes

Is spam pings really a huge deal?? I mean yea it's annoying.. but does it happen all that much?? I think this may be the 2nd thread I have read about it.. And I personally have never experienced it

KilljoyXApr 7, 20161 votes

Meh it's fine. I'll get banned eventually by a premade that pushes me too far. Don't really care at this point. Overwatch will be the superior version of league anyway.