I can already tell I'll get down voted and people will probably want to chop my dick off, but it was intended as a joke. That's about it, I'd rather not turn this into a political discussion. It's a yes or a no question. And if Yes is it a punishable offense?
PrismalDawn5 votesYes it is. But if you were to say they will nerf Graves for being White, that won't be racist for some reason.
The Cream Reaper1 votesBut if you were to say they will nerf Graves for being White, that won't be racist for some reason.
it's not a well thought out joke nor is it racist because being white is not a mentionable attribute.
The majority of the population is white and blacks are situated at ~1.4 billion people, thus making them a minority. and much like a beauty contest, if 7 of the girls are white and the 8th is black, the difference will be noted as an extra feature. At least... that's how i'd see it...
if memory serves, black people came to be because the white people who hanged out in africa spent way too much time in the sun. at least that's what i remember about the topic...
SEKAI4 votes[{quoted}](name=The Cream Reaper,realm=EUNE,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=4cNLin1f,comment-id=00000001,timestamp=2017-11-15T10:12:20.590+0000)
if memory serves, black people came to be because the white people who hanged out in africa spent way too much time in the sun. at least that's what i remember about the topic...
.... lol?
It's more like that white people came to be because some black people mutated and their offspings developed skin pigmentation deficiency hence less protection to sun light, and so they moved north into Europe where the sun isn't as strong.
The Cream Reaper2 votesi take it someone never heard of migration
people of the old days weren't smart enough to move to a different location just because the sun affected them more harshly. particularly when the different location was uncharted land at that time
SEKAI3 votes[{quoted}](name=The Cream Reaper,realm=EUNE,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=4cNLin1f,comment-id=0000000100000000,timestamp=2017-11-15T10:26:31.286+0000)
i take it someone never heard of migration
people of the old days weren't smart enough to move to a different location just because the sun affected them more harshly. particularly when the different location was uncharted land at that time
Why would you say humans weren't smart enough to notice things like "oh shit, the sun is burning my skin, I gotta move somewhere else"? Pretty sure any lifeform that can be said to have intelligence would respond to simple stimuli like that. Not to mention, animals migrate, not sure why you would say otherwise.
Your first line also makes little sense, because it contradicts your second and arguably the major point.
The Cream Reaper1 votesWhy would you say humans weren't smart enough to notice things like "oh shit, the sun is burning my skin, I gotta move somewhere else"?
somewhere else like in the shade sure. somewhere else like travel thousands of miles north? please...
Not to mention, animals migrate, not sure why you would say otherwise.
animals migrate because it's in their blood. they have a pattern by which they live their lives which involves moving away when the weather doesn't suit them. you shouldn't compare animal migration with human migration because it's not the same thing
SEKAI2 votes[{quoted}](name=The Cream Reaper,realm=EUNE,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=4cNLin1f,comment-id=000000010000000000000000,timestamp=2017-11-15T10:42:56.536+0000)
somewhere else like in the shade sure. somewhere else like travel thousands of miles north? please...
We're not talking about get up and go to somewhere within a day or few days. This "migration" we're talking about is the collective distance traveled through tens and hundreds or even millions of years and across countless generations, moving from places to places in search of food/resources/shelter or any other possible reason that may strike the fancies of both primitive and developed human minds.
They also don't specifically just traveled north, it's just that white people traveling out AND inside of Africa survived in the Europe whereas they perished everywhere else they went to for 1 reason or the other.
Also to clarify, they weren't actually "white people" in today's sense, by using that term I was actually referring to black people who have lighter/paler skins, since that's how white people came to be initially.
animals migrate because it's in their blood. they have a pattern by which they live their lives which involves moving away when the weather doesn't suit them. you shouldn't compare animal migration with human migration because it's not the same thing
Human did not start agricultural "settling" lifestyle until recently as far as history is concerned. The first of human ancestors who could only be very loosely considered as us but still nonetheless our ancestors, have been dated to have at least existed 6 million years ago; the first modern human that can be considered as no different from us came into being around 200,000 years ago; agriculture was independently initiated and developed across the globe but the first currently known instances of agriculture was about 22,000 years ago. So even with only considering the history of modern human, 90% of our existence had been spent chasing after 'wild' resources, let's not even include the period of the proto-humans.
So no, your claims are a bit off.
Humans are animals anyway, I utterly fail to see how you can be so sure that there's such a big intrinsic difference between us and the wild animals that humans somehow don't have the instinct to migrate. Really?
The Cream Reaper1 votesWe're not talking about get up and go to somewhere within a day or few days. This "migration" we're talking about is the collective distance traveled through tens and hundreds or even millions of years and across countless generations, moving from places to places in search of food/resources/shelter or any other possible reason that may strike the fancies of both primitive and developed human minds.
except your argument was that they traveled north based solely on skin sensitivity issues:
It's more like that white people came to be because some black people mutated and their offspings developed skin pigmentation deficiency hence less protection to sun light, and so they moved north into Europe where the sun isn't as strong.
you're not very good at following your own chain of thought, are you?
I utterly fail to see how you can be so sure that there's such a big intrinsic difference between us and the wild animals that humans somehow don't have the instinct to migrate.
last time i checked, most houses don't have wheels under them for moving purposes. the very ideea of a house implies that the place of residence is vewed as a permanent base of operations. animals of the migration sort don't have such a thing.
SEKAI1 votes[{quoted}](name=The Cream Reaper,realm=EUNE,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=4cNLin1f,comment-id=00000001000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2017-11-15T11:15:43.355+0000)
except your argument was that they traveled north based solely on skin sensitivity issues:
you're not very good at following your own chain of thought, are you?
Silly me, I'd thought you'd take it as A reason (major or otherwise, though I'd like to think it's a big reason) like any sensible person would and not THE and ONLY reason, and that I was just giving a super-summary and not the entire explanation of the whole thing.
last time i checked, most houses don't have wheels under them for moving purposes. the very ideea of a house implies that the place of residence is vewed as a permanent base of operations. animals of the migration sort don't have such a thing.
Humans started out living in caves and temporarily shelters to accompany their hunting and gathering lifestyle, so no, houses don't move you're right, but people do, and we sure as hell weren't living living in houses 100,000 BC. And the reason to why shelters were temporary with hunting and gathering is because resources while renewable, is still limited by its "cooldown", hence sooner or later you would deplete most of the useful stuff in the region for the moment and so you would have to move somewhere else; or maybe there were external threats from climates to different tribes to predators within the region that forces you to move, doesn't matter; it's not sensible to assume that living in the wild as a primitive human in those times has the same amount of safety and protection and access to good stuff as your good neighbourhoods today.
Also, hunting animals like lions have temporarily base of operation too, just like primitive humans did. But then again, neither of which are hardly "home keepers" or strangers to migration.
Point is, if humans started out instinctively to live by hunting and gathering, which involves periodic and sometimes frequent migration, before systematically utilising their intelligence to develop agriculture hundreds of thousands of years later, on what ground to you make the claim that we "don't have such a thing (migration instinct)".
The Cream Reaper1 votesSilly me, I'd thought you'd take it as A reason (major or otherwise, though I'd like to think it's a big reason) like any sensible person would and not THE and ONLY reason,
you stated it as the only reason so that is how i took it. maybe you should try writing a more concise argument because there's nothing in your initial response that identifies skin sensitivity as "an argument of many"
It's more like that white people came to be because some black people mutated and their offspings developed skin pigmentation deficiency hence less protection to sun light, and so they moved north into Europe where the sun isn't as strong.
or are we reading a different thing?
ike any sensible person would
by your logic, a sensible person would translate "your mother is in the hospital because she is fat" as "your mother is in the hospital because she is fat and has several other medical issues"
learn to phrase your arguments properly!
Point is, if humans started out instinctively to live by hunting and gathering, which involves periodic and sometimes frequent migration, before systematically utilising their intelligence to develop agriculture hundreds of thousands of years later, on what ground to you make the claim that we "don't have such a thing (migration instinct)".
"when humans were toddlers, they would sometimes eat dirt. worms eat dirt too. therefore humans have dirt eating instincts"
^this is your logic
[zombie-brand-facepalm]
SEKAI2 votesYou do realise the initial argument started out counterarguing the sentiment in which you implied that black people emerges from white people? The point of my argument was to say that "no, it's the other way around, white people came from black people".
That's why I didn't need to put so much effort in explaining the details on migration like the incentive and mechanism and stuff, because it's not relevant to the point.
This convo is only extended because you came back to me derailing the initial starting point, but I guess it's now my problem that I am merely replying to what you've raised against me?
EDIT:
"when humans were toddlers, they would sometimes eat dirt. worms eat dirt too. therefore humans have dirt eating instincts"
lol if humans consistently demonstrate a behaviour, how is that wrong to assume that humans is highly likely to have it as an instinct? Do you need MORE than hundreds of thousands or millions of years of human migration to tell you that maybe, humans know the idea of migration instinctively?
The Cream Reaper1 votesYou do realise
i know
That's why I didn't need to put so much effort in explaining the details on migration like the incentive and mechanism and stuff, because it's not relevant to the point.
you didnt need to put effort,. you just needed to mention that skin sensitivity is one of the reasons. and i wouldn't have pressed further
you didn't. your reply was "they moved because skin reasons"
hence the above back and forth. because you were too lazy to put a decent effort in a reply
SEKAI2 votes[{quoted}](name=The Cream Reaper,realm=EUNE,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=4cNLin1f,comment-id=000000010000000000000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2017-11-15T11:53:55.180+0000)
i know
you didnt need to put effort,. you just needed to mention that skin sensitivity is one of the reasons. and i wouldn't have pressed further
you didn't. your reply was "they moved because skin reasons"
hence the above back and forth. because you were too lazy to put a decent effort in a reply
You're literally just being a Nazi. Let's be frank.
Like literally, your entire reason to dismiss someone's argument is because they didn't use "one of" to imply and include more than just this one thing being said that isn't even relevant to the major narrative and point of the argument, EVEN THOUGH the said argument also didn't include any explicit statement claiming that it is "the only" reason or similar equivalents but you're somehow so gleefully happy to take it as that despite your seemingly perfectionist dedication on the linguistic specifics that formed the basis of this "counterargument" against my initial reply which was on a completely different topic that doesn't even require me to go considering and elaborating the details in that secondary aspect to even begin with.
Yeah whatever dude.
(by that "Nazi" I mean the kind of "Nazi" in the vein of "Grammar Nazi", in case you want to bite me for this term too)
The Cream Reaper1 votesYou're literally just being a Nazi. Let's be frank.
you don't know what that word is either, huh?
Also i'd rather be Carl than Frank
[vlad-salute]
Like literally, your entire reason to dismiss someone's argument is because they didn't use "one of" to imply and include more than just this one thing being said that isn't even relevant to the major narrative and point of the argument, EVEN THOUGH the said argument also didn't include any explicit statement claiming that it is "the only" reason or whatever
literally... like... for reals...
[zombie-nunu-bummed]
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by your logic, a sensible person would translate "your mother is in the hospital because she is fat" as "your mother is in the hospital because she is fat and has several other medical issues"
[slayer-jinx-wink]
Yeah whatever dude.
typical
SEKAI1 votes[{quoted}](name=The Cream Reaper,realm=EUNE,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=4cNLin1f,comment-id=00000001000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2017-11-15T12:01:10.432+0000)
you don't know what that word is either, huh?
AND YOU ACTUALLY DID BITE ME FOR USING THIS TERM CASUALLY TO REFER TO THINGS LIKE GRAMMAR NAZI
I added "(by that "Nazi" I mean the kind of "Nazi" in the vein of "Grammar Nazi", in case you want to bite me for this term too)" very shortly after writing that reply, just an insurance policy and "just so you know" for your sheer tryhard stupidity.
But nope, you don't disappoint 1 bit, already so fast with this ingenious comeback.
Hot damn!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA
EDIT: Oh you edited it, but unfortunately into a completely meaningless post instead of the last hilarious one. Oh well.
Krigjer2 votesWhy would you say humans weren't smart enough to notice things like "oh shit, the sun is burning my skin, I gotta move somewhere else"? Pretty sure any lifeform that can be said to have intelligence would respond to simple stimuli like that. Not to mention, animals migrate, not sure why you would say otherwise.
Except evolution doesn't work like that.
Creatures evolve to withstand their environment or die. They don't just randomly evolve certain traits and then have to relocate to deal with it.
Escheton2 votesActually, thats exactly how it works. Mutations occur semi-randomly. Some work, some don't. Some end up a boon, some end up the death of a bloodline.
AlexJFrost6661 votesyou dont know how evolution and natural selection works.[slayer-jinx-unamused]
Hexs Fortune1 votesYes it is. But if you were to say they will nerf Graves for being White, that won't be racist for some reason.
It'd be just as racist. You're the only one saying it wouldn't be.
SEKAI2 votesNo, it's just false. Because blacks get nerfed all the time irl.
Bronze 6 Yasuo1 votes.
Brotha2 votesintended as a joke
No, you intend to get a negative reaction from people so you can say "lol chill it was a joke".
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if memory serves, black people came to be because the white people who hanged out in africa spent way too much time in the sun. at least that's what i remember about the topic...
And I thought the US education system was fucked.
zPOOPz1 votesIt's really depends on if you are playing Ekko or not.
If you are playing Ekko, it's probably not racist.
If you are playing someone not Ekko or Lucian.......god helps you......
EL HAMSTERO1 votesaffirmative action is not punishable but you are supposed to pretend not to notice it
Kei1431 votesIt's a bad and tasteless joke. Why even try to cut so close to getting punished?
This Is Your Dad1 votesHonestly I shy away from jokes that directly offend people. A joke I made about Ekko was "Ekko was sentenced to life in prison for being a repeat offender." Now you could get offended if you tried to make it about race, which it isn't, but that's you actively trying to be offended to which I ask, "Why do I care about you being offended?"
