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I have a really big problem with the behavior right now

Jefftiffy··1 votes·280 views

Toxicity is at an all time high believe it or not. Why? Because the community accepts it. You die one time in lane and 4 people spam 2+ "?"s on your dead body. How is that not toxic? You defend yourself and you are "being toxic by causing someone else to continue being toxic". Like what? That's like standing up to the bully in high school and getting detention for bullying them.

This isn't even a low elo experience watch the pros when they stream solo's and duo's. It still happens in diamond/master/challenger. The mere fact that even some of the streamers get pretty toxic at times not going to point out names other than Dunkey (I know this is old news, but I would prefer not to point out current players as I believe that is against boards guidelines) who took over 3 years and an automated system to finally ban for how toxic he was regardless of whether or not it was funny in hindsight and half the time he didn't mean any of it but in the moment it is incredibly toxic. Don't get me wrong I enjoy Dunkey's content, but it doesn't change the fact that any variation of that behavior is toxic.

And the not so recent trend of ? spamming is getting to the point where temp bans need to be given out and for the specific reason of being toxic with pings and chat. I understand doing it as a funny thing, but when most of the player base is toxic it makes it really hard to take it as a joke.

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ModPeriscope1 votes

No doubt that ping spamming is negative/toxic, which is why they have mute buttons for it (and emotes too). It's hard to tell if someone's ever punished specifically for ping spamming (there's not really a report feature for it, there's no posts from folks on the boards complaining about their bans). If you do report it, I'd mark "Harassment" with a note at the bottom about the ping spamming.

You defend yourself and you are "being toxic by causing someone else to continue being toxic

If you're contributing to toxicity, then you're stooping down to the level of whoever was bothering you. That doesn't help anything, and the rest of your team now has to deal with 2 toxic teammates.

Jefftiffy1 votes

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No doubt that ping spamming is negative/toxic, which is why they have mute buttons for it (and emotes too). It's hard to tell if someone's ever punished specifically for ping spamming (there's not really a report feature for it, there's no posts from folks on the boards complaining about their bans). If you do report it, I'd mark "Harassment" with a note at the bottom about the ping spamming.

If you're contributing to toxicity, then you're stooping down to the level of whoever was bothering you. That doesn't help anything, and the rest of your team now has to deal with 2 toxic teammates.

How is being toxic to tell someone to stop talking and play the game. The act of simply responding to a toxic player should not be considered being toxic. The problem is the way it is right now if you even as much as speak to them and they continue talking to you, you are considered toxic by the current system. That's pretty damn shitty and you can't say that I'm wrong about that.

ModPeriscope1 votes

I’ve never seen anyone posting here that was *reasonably * trying to defuse a situation and was punished for doing so.

I’ve lightly told others to “stop” or “you should both mute each other” or “you’ve only said negative things all game” and I haven’t been punished. It becomes a problem with if most of your chat is directed at a player, becoming a distraction to the rest of the team.

Jefftiffy1 votes

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I’ve never seen anyone posting here that was *reasonably * trying to defuse a situation and was punished for doing so.

I’ve lightly told others to “stop” or “you should both mute each other” or “you’ve only said negative things all game” and I haven’t been punished. It becomes a problem with if most of your chat is directed at a player, becoming a distraction to the rest of the team.

But the problem is by Riot's definition that is how it works. Anything that encourages someone to be toxic or continue to be toxic regardless of whether or not it was toxic in it of itself is considered toxic by the current definition. So even if you say "Yasuo, please just stop and play the game" that is technically toxic by Riot's current standards, but pinging ? on someone is near undetectable because there is almost no human review. I understand the game has gotten really big since the tribunal was released, but is there not a way to have a similar system with a replay system added in since we now have replays?

ModPeriscope1 votes

Based on how the punishment system works, I’d be surprised if ping spamming weren’t punishable or contributing to punishments. The player base feels pretty strongly against it. I hadn’t seen rioters say anything about it, nor have I seen others complain about being punished for it.

So even if you say "Yasuo, please just stop and play the game"

I haven’t seen anyone being punished for small, encouraging lines like this.

Mordius1 votes

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Toxicity is at an all time high believe it or not.

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