A new wave of absolute defeatism

Lost R·Jul 13, 2016·2 votes·747 views

There are players joining games now just to not do anything. They'll active AFK in the fountain and complain about how impossible and overpowered and worthless everything is and how much this game sucks. They are bogging down this game, wasting their time as well as everyone else's, and destroying what little stability we think we have.

Riot, you seriously need to crack down on these people. Ban them permanently from this realm of existence; do not tolerate them for even a microsecond.

7 Comments

Kim Chi VendorJul 13, 20161 votes

I felt that way yesterday after I couldn't climb with Leona or Janna in Silver. Not sure if I'm bad because I'm being shit on every game by kids.

I used to be able to climb.

It's a shame riot clamped down on toxic chat for the stupid hextek chests cause it really amped up the passive toxic gameplay. It's like they didn't learn at all from when you could be chat banned. The chat banned people just trolled every game.

Lost RJul 13, 20161 votes

The people who try to farm S-ranks by being passive are weaklings who can't teamfight a minion even if their lives depended on it. I have gotten much further in the past year than any of them ever will in a lifetime, and being a support main, I had to take a much harder road to get here.

Zero ShingetsuJul 13, 20161 votes

Honestly, I think the best way to do this is to improve their game. The state of degradation that's hit this game over the last three years has a lot of longtime fans so upset they've resorted to this nonsense. Their behavior isn't excusable, but if the game were simply fun again, it would probably curb a lot of this.

Lost RJul 13, 20161 votes

And how would they go about doing that? You realize that the game is better balanced than it ever has been? Too many champions are perceived as overpowered because the Yasuo mid only guy thinks that Yasuo can beat anyone, and anyone he can't beat is overpowered and needs to be nerfed.

People make really fucking stupid mistakes in the game and never notice the mistakes, much less stop making them, until long after the game is over, but then they don't learn to not make those same mistakes in the next game. People just pay attention to whatever LCS players do, try to copy their style without understanding why they worked, and refuse to actually learn even the most basic elements of the game.

And Riot is expected by the community to listen to these people.

Zero ShingetsuJul 14, 20161 votes

[{quoted}](name=Lost R,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=14BxxAVu,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2016-07-13T21:39:31.726+0000) And how would they go about doing that?

People just pay attention to whatever LCS players do, try to copy their style without understanding why they worked, and refuse to actually learn even the most basic elements of the game.

And Riot is expected by the community to listen to these people.

You accidentally hit the nail on the head. One major thing Riot can do to improve their game is stop focusing so much on esports and start focusing on teaching newcomers the game like a normal game developer. The amount of attention they've put into esports, and the degree to which they've propped up these... these self-proclaimed "athletes", has led to a drop in the overall balance of the game for more or less the reason you stated.

Normal players start to think that the way they do it in LCS is the way to do it, and don't even consider playing to their own style. It doesn't help that Riot actively balances the game around LCS play. Now you have a situation where people are attempting to play the game at an otaku level of obsessive that they aren't equipped to play, and the game is a mess as a result.

Short answer: Stop esports, or at least leave it as a very hardcore thing you have to go out of your way to hear about. That would go a long way towards improving the overall state of the game.

Telephone BoothJul 13, 20161 votes

Ya it might be that Riot went down the wrong path with policing language in games. It's like taunting assholes who don't agree with it. Making them find other ways to troll just to almost protest the fact that they baby people. Like "I'll show them"... I think it's probably too late at this point. If they got rid of punishments for toxicity I bet for a while people would go crazy but maybe it'd die down after a while when they realize nobody cares... however there's always gonna be super sensitive people that do care so it probably wouldn't go away. I don't know a solution, and I didn't play this game back "when it was fun". I've always thought the game is fun since I started a couple years ago.