Dodging 1 match gives me 15 min wait? Makes no sense Riot.

NGNL Asian·Mar 21, 2016·2 votes·658 views

When people troll you would want to naturally dodge matches, I'm fine with 5 min wait but 15 min is too long. It's perfectly normal for someone to dodge cause no one wants to have low elo.

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No flash no lifeMar 21, 20163 votes

No, dodge is not a normal function intended to be used, and only under extreme situation (where player deems it absolutely necessary even if he/she has to take serious consequences in the face) should it be considered. 15 minute is too short and allows ppl to abuse it without concern.

NGNL AsianMar 27, 20162 votes

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No, dodge is not a normal function intended to be used, and only under extreme situation (where player deems it absolutely necessary even if he/she has to take serious consequences in the face) should it be considered. 15 minute is too short and allows ppl to abuse it without concern.

So you're telling me, that I should let a freaking AP zed go bot lane as adc. Warwick support, Fiora support, Lux jg, LeBlanc jg, and all those builds that makes absolutely no sense. Even AD teemo works better than those.

Darkslayer85Mar 27, 20161 votes

AP Garen.

Somehow he ended up 18/3/7??

NGNL AsianMar 27, 20161 votes

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AP Garen.

Somehow he ended up 18/3/7??

Nashors? Garen ult secretly scale off AP? Lich Bane?????????????/

No flash no lifeMar 27, 20161 votes

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So you're telling me, that I should let a freaking AP zed go bot lane as adc. Warwick support, Fiora support, Lux jg, LeBlanc jg, and all those builds that makes absolutely no sense.

And doing that is the reason why those bad players are going to lose games, end up at bottom of the pit, and play with other players who are just as bad. It's unfortunate that you'd played with players who had less understanding of the game than you did, but by the end of the day players have the freedom to play however they want as long as they aren't purposely losing the game. If not bringing out the ulmost potential of a champ is considered trolling then grabbing ap on malphite would deserve a report.

You're more of a rational player, that's why you missed out the abuse potential dodging can create in the hands of irrational players:

Non-meta pick (urgot adc gankplank mid)? cya nerds /dodge
adc demands alistar support but support doesn't know how to play alistar and picks janna? dodgerino
support sees renek top zed mid vi junglar and ad adc? #gudteamcomp alt f4
the other team banned my champ? eph this game
We're all happy with our team? Guess what, the other side isn't and they're dodging

As you can see, removing consequences of dodging or shortening it to something like 5 minutes will result in not a single game starting simply because ppl will never be satisfied with what they have.

NGNL AsianApr 3, 20161 votes

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And doing that is the reason why those bad players are going to lose games, end up at bottom of the pit, and play with other players who are just as bad. It's unfortunate that you'd played with players who had less understanding of the game than you did, but by the end of the day players have the freedom to play however they want as long as they aren't purposely losing the game. If not bringing out the ulmost potential of a champ is considered trolling then grabbing ap on malphite would deserve a report.

You're more of a rational player, that's why you missed out the abuse potential dodging can create in the hands of irrational players:

Non-meta pick (urgot adc gankplank mid)? cya nerds /dodge

adc demands alistar support but support doesn't know how to play alistar and picks janna? dodgerino

support sees renek top zed mid vi junglar and ad adc? #gudteamcomp alt f4

the other team banned my champ? eph this game

We're all happy with our team? Guess what, the other side isn't and they're dodging

As you can see, removing consequences of dodging or shortening it to something like 5 minutes will result in not a single game starting simply because ppl will never be satisfied with what they have.

Well, you see I do off meta picks too. But I only do it when I know it works, I'm perfectly fine with enemy banning my champ cause I have a large roster. And I bought every kind of support but hook ones. And with the other team dodging constantly, eventually they will stop. But what if they don't dodge? Well, lets just say that now, our match history, kdas, and elo will be dropped.

SmokedAlmondsApr 4, 20161 votes

The only difference between you doing it being "when you know it works" and them doing it making them a troll is that you are privy to the thought process of your own choice, but not theirs.

NGNL AsianApr 7, 20161 votes

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The only difference between you doing it being "when you know it works" and them doing it making them a troll is that you are privy to the thought process of your own choice, but not theirs.

Well dude, like I said, I only do troll builds when I tried it multiple times in bots and did it with friends in custom games so I'm sure about if it works or not.

SmokedAlmondsApr 8, 20161 votes

That is kinda my point though. You know that you tried it multiple times, but you have no idea if anyone else did the same. You just assume that they didn't, so you are well practiced and they are just trolls. But you are both doing the exact same thing.

NGNL AsianApr 10, 20161 votes

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That is kinda my point though. You know that you tried it multiple times, but you have no idea if anyone else did the same. You just assume that they didn't, so you are well practiced and they are just trolls. But you are both doing the exact same thing.

I get your point. I agree with you on that. Recently I had someone who said they never tried it but they're doing it. So that kinda upsetted me.