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I don't think Pool Party Mundo is going to get unlocked...

Linna Excel··45 votes·4,205 views

3 days to go and we have yet to get to Level 2 for the pool party week. Riot, I'm starting to think a couple things are going on here.

  1. Timing is bad because everyone is playing their new steam games. Myself included. That means everyone in this group isn't going to be doing pool party that much. I mean why play boring old LOL that's always going to be there when you can play your new game you got for 75% off?

  2. I think a lot of your user base either doesn't have a lot of friends on their list or just doesn't team up with them that much, especially for 5 man premades. It's kind of hard to make a friend in a game (unless someone carries you and then you want to mooch off of him) because the format and pacing of a game doesn't really allow for it. After a match, most people are on to the next one so talking it over in a friendly manner there is less common than a bunch of GGs and everyone leaving.

  3. No guilds/corps/clans. If you can only do a 5 man team at most, you don't have the social options other games give you. For an event like this, you'd really need something like a guild and hope you've got 5 members on and ready to go.

  4. It'd be nice if there was a looking for group chat room. I mean I'm sure that there is one in the client, unfortunately most people don't know about it because you don't exactly advertise that feature in your pvp.net window and you can't search for chat rooms. That makes finding people in game really difficult and you are limited to the small group of randoms you play with.

  5. LOL completely fails at this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QuG7mIpVFc0

You know, I'm not going to sugar coat it. League of legends completely fails at everything about teaching players how to play and play well. It's worse than EVE plus in EVE people don't rage at you as much when you fail at something the game didn't teach you to do. At worst you get an ALOD post on themittani and that's more a public shaming/learning tool than anything else.

83 Comments

Phife14 votes

Problem is that you need 5 people to get points towards pool party rewards...

The real thing is you normally dont have 5 friends on simultaneously. Should have just been points based on how large your premade group was.

Deep Terror Nami7 votes

http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/tips-tricks/F8et6xUh-how-to-beat-rito-in-the-pool-party-challenge-image-tutorial

Phife3 votes

Id rather not just queue with a bunch of random fuckos... didn't your mom always tell you to say "no" to strangers?

Deep Terror Nami8 votes

If you don't have friends and you don't want to make any, then you're fucked. Nothing more to say.

Phife4 votes

I have a select group of friends IRL and who play league, but we normally dont get all 5 of eachother online at the exact same time for a prolonged period of time.

Understand?

CrankyChipmonk15 votes

whats the significant difference for you between queuing up alone and getting matched with random people, and queuing up with random people and starting a match?

Phife4 votes

Because after that game where i play with randoms, thats probably the last time i'll see them. So if they're bad i can just pray i dont get them on my team again, or if they're good i can add them. Either way It doesn't leave me with a lasting impact.

Whereas if im playing with a group of 5 people premade, ive probably had to add them, they are now familiar with my name and on my friends list. Now i have to add an extra step to my retard proof plan to not play with baddies, I have to remove / block them once i finish a bad game with them.

Generally i dont like playing with people whos skill is irrelevant and random.

RoyaiChaos10 votes

No, you don't have to add them. That's the whole purpose of the chat. You can invite people from the chat without ever adding them, you don't even have to talk to them. You just get on, you'll soon be spammed with invites. Accept (make sure it's the game mode you want though), and play. Once the game is over, close the chat to stop getting invite spammed and you're done. You don't have to say a single word.

rescued5 votes

You don't have to add anyone ... Just invite them from the chat room.

Left Hook Larry1 votes

Not only do you need to have a 5 man premade, but you also have to win games with them.

Sammystorm1 votes

well that part is fine. Literally half of the games that are played as 5 man are won.

T RexHasTinyArms1 votes

This is by far the biggest issue. I have played 2 normal games in the last year or so and both were because I asked a friend if they wanted to duo ranked and they were in a party so they suggested normals.

Restricting it to 5 mans means that any player who primarily plays ranked isn't/can't participate in the bonus. They should have at least made a lower gain 2 man bonus for solo que, because some of us prefer ranked over normals. (For me it is partly bc my normals MMR is so much lower than my ranked MMR. Played heimer AP bot lane w/ lee sin support and morg support respectively and stomped both games even though no adc for the team and the second morg and I split cs. That just isn't that much fun.)

WildCard8238 votes

There are plenty of chat rooms on the client that have been posted here. I think there's a "Looking For Group" room along with "Pool Party" "Pool Party 1" etc.

Anyway, my problem is that I play almost exclusively Ranked games. I'm not going to give up Ranked for a premade 5's normal.

Linna Excel2 votes

I'm glad there are chat rooms, but not everyone looks on the forums. Or we don't look in that thread. Or we forget about that chat room's name. This is something that needs to be fixed in game.

LemurKick2 votes

"lfg", or "pool party" isn't that hard to remember.

Mathlete8648 votes

Well not with that attitude!

Drunk Rummate6 votes

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3 days to go and we have yet to get to Level 2 for the pool party week. Riot, I'm starting to think a couple things are going on here.

  1. Timing is bad because everyone is playing their new steam games. Myself included. That means everyone in this group isn't going to be doing pool party that much. I mean why play boring old LOL that's always going to be there when you can play your new game you got for 75% off?

I think this is the biggest thing actually. I've been playing Borderlands Pre-Sequel and Mirrors Edge and Cities: Skylines pretty non-stop since I bought them last week. Very little time for league :/

I logged on and gifted all my friends a mystery skin though, so I contributed :D

CudyDarkyz2 votes

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I think this is the biggest thing actually. I've been playing Borderlands Pre-Sequel and Mirrors Edge and Cities: Skylines pretty non-stop since I bought them last week. Very little time for league :/

I logged on and gifted all my friends a mystery skin though, so I contributed :D

From what i'm told you only get points if you gift them after a game you play with them.

DrCyanide3 votes

You get twice the points for doing it that way, but you do get points for gifting to others.

Drunk Rummate2 votes

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From what i'm told you only get points if you gift them after a game you play with them.

Gifting a friend gives 10 points and gifting after a game gives 20. But I'd rather give gifts to people I know than random people, the points don't matter enough to me that I'd go and spend money on random people.

Annapii5 votes

I'm pretty okay with not unlocking Pool Party Mundo. But I'm going to be completely heartbroken if we can't unlock the Pool Party Winions. I mean, you can just buy Pool Party Mundo. But you can't buy Pool Party Winions, and it would be sad if we gave them little hats and umbrellas, then we didn't let them wear them. :c.

WildCard8234 votes

Another part of this is Riot had to guess good milestones. Not their fault. It's a blind guess. They had no clue what to expect. However, since all these are freebees anyway, I'm okay with it. We get what we get, and we don't get what we don't.

Kinjishi3 votes

No, this isn't entirely accurate. Riot can generate reports and pull data on how often people make 5 champ teams vs lower numbers with other people (all the way down to solo). While they may not have an exact number to gauge this by, they can estimate benchmarks and they did set them too high. As a company, they would prefer people to buy Mundo skin than hand it out.

Linna Excel2 votes

I like to think that while they have and educated guess, they might have set the bar high on purpose coughmoneycough. They could also be testing the community as well.

Kinjishi3 votes

They could be testing the community, sure. But as someone else pointed out, it really pits the community against itself because there are not any points for when you lose (i.e. 1-2 points for a loss and 5 points for a win). Not everyone will be making teams and participating in the TeamUp/Pool Party event. So, in a way, it contradicts teamwork at the same time.

Ice Cold Waz3 votes

Honestly I think a huge problem too is the way that the points are counted. By having it being a team game the points go towards the same thing a huge number of people pool party to get zero points.

For instance two days ago I played 5 ARAMS in a row in pool party groups and we lost all 5. That's a shit ton of points that are lost. Because of the event occurring over a few days so many premade 5's are getting paired against other premade 5's thus making a lot of points lost when they verse each other.

In Summary: There might be 100 teams doing pool party at a time but only 50 get points because they all end up playing each other

MVDuneCats1 votes

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In Summary: There might be 100 teams doing pool party at a time but only 50 get points because they all end up playing each other

And if just one of those players decided not to play, there would only be 98 teams playing and only 49 would get points.

Even losing teams contribute. Because without them, there wouldn't be winning teams. There would only be idling players.

Ice Cold Waz1 votes

You're kinda right. But if you have only 99 teams then one of the premades will go against and normal queue of 5 random players. It's not that people won't be able to play it's that so many premades play other premades.

Learnding3 votes

League's methods of "incentivising", 5 man premades, is a skin they made beforehand. So instead of actually including an incentive, you went out, wasting your time on a cookie cutter skin, then realized the goal won't be met, then place it in the limited time only vault, only to be brought back again next year. Riot has no fucking idea what they are doing, when it comes to appeasing the community. They just do what ever they think makes them the most money the fastest way possible.

Kinjishi2 votes

There are quite a few chat rooms, as Wild Card pointed out. The main issue with the rewards is that most of them are issued/provided automatically with an event, but this time they all have to be earned - and this seems a bit silly considering Riot only gives us 1 week. It really is too short a timeframe to spontaneously go "Hey community, get together and play more!" Shame on you, Riot.

RoyaiChaos2 votes

We still have Saturday and Sunday though.

MacDthree2 votes

I agree with your statement on the fact that Riot's tutorial sucks (has any rioter said anything about this ever? I'd like to see it actually.) But - It doesn't take the time to show you anything about roles, you just kinda learn them by being fucking screamed at by smurfs - shows you nothing about last hitting as a main priority - zero information on wards - lack of anything on items. I just. ugh. Dota makes you go through this really long tutorial process that painstakingly makes you learn to last hit - buy items - take one tower - now take the next - and that's just one game example.
I don't really think the community is chock full of "shitty players" I think it's chock full of people that never learned to play because they didn't have a friend to teach them when they started.

Kinjishi2 votes

There is the Basics guide on Tips and Tricks: http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/tips-tricks/T1i49i33-guide-league-basics

But in-game tutorials would be fantastic. summoner 31

MacDthree2 votes

yeah I'm sure they are around. I just hate that this community is starting to get such a bad rap. The majority of the community aren't bad players. It's just the simple fact that MOBA's are a different animal and a lot of people don't understand them. Nowhere in the tutorials (at least when I played. I don't assume they have changed) does it explain the "standard" different roles of each lane... how are you supposed to know until you get that smurf in your lvl 6 game that rages about you for playing ashe mid when you just didn't know otherwise. It's awful. Don't know why I'm complaining to you about it when I could just make a board lol

Vekkna3 votes

Mandatory quests/challenges to advance summoner level would be nice, too. For example, to qualify for level 5, you have to do a mid lane challenge against an aggressive Zed bot while last-hitting X% of some number of minion waves. To get to level 10, you have to clear X number of jungle camps within 10 minutes. To get to level 15, you have a support challenge to keep your bot ADC alive and keep vision of your lane entrances. To get to level 20, you have to survive a 1v2 top lane for X minutes while meeting requirements for CS, xp, and not losing tower.

Loki Hybrid2 votes

I wish it had been based on your individual points rather then a community thing. They probably just wanted to see how many users are still willing to play LOL. :/ I was really hoping we would get lvl 5 though

Deep Terror Nami1 votes

PP Mundo will be free to everyone if we reach the goal. If we don't he'll still go up in the store.

Linna Excel2 votes

For his fans I'm glad he'll still be on sale. However the main focus of the thread is based on ingame and real life factors, him getting unlocked for free is unlikely to occur. I mean riot dangled the possibly of a free skin and in all likelihood it doesn't look like it'll happen. Based on the previously mentioned factors it seems like success of getting a free skin was unlikely from the outset.

Another point is if you think about it, only Mundo fans and people who want all the skins would be particularly driven to reach the last level. As someone who doesn't play Mundo, I wouldn't complain about a free skin but I don't have to get it either. So add in that to everything else and you might have given his fans a bit of hope, but unless something changes it looks like they'll have to fork over 10 bucks.

TheEvilQueen1351 votes

plus high school kids are still in school in the US

stealthfox942 votes

That's so stupid. it's June 18th.

TheEvilQueen1351 votes

New England(at least Ma) kids had a lot of snow days... all my high school friends are in school until early next week.

stealthfox941 votes

That's just terrible when I was in high school we always got off right at the start of June.

TheEvilQueen1351 votes

it's the snow days :p so glad i was in college for this blizzard winter haha

stealthfox941 votes

me to, we didn't even get days off when there was 10 inches of snow outside, just delays.

Sukishoo1 votes

Yeah there's only a few days left now and we're barely just hitting level 3, so there's no doubt that we won't unlock everything. They set those WAY too high for a reason. They knew we'd never make it.

MVDuneCats1 votes

I haven't given up hope yet. Over the first 4 days, we've seen participation ramp up each, albeit slowly. I think yesterday accounted for around 8 million points.

We'd have to average about 11 million points per day over the last 3 days. Given that those 3 days are the weekend, I wouldn't consider it impossible.

Migrañaboy1 votes

Timing is bad because everyone is playing their new steam games.

This is the reason that they did OP!

It would be lulzy and bad publicity for Riot if people don-t acheive the objective due to this. It's more likely that the end results are rigged and we will obtain the skin anyways :^).

WolfBV1 votes

Got 307 friends so yee.

Rozzeta1 votes

Believe me when I tell you that the amount of metrics Riot handles can easily let them estimate the amount of points the community can achieve. I'm not sure if the goal of this event is to hinder competitors efforts, or just to make an estimation on how much can they force people into using the RP in events.

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