Possible nerf for Leblanc?

Glîtchy·Jun 1, 2016·4 votes·976 views

Look, I'm willing to be there will be at least one person objecting to this but hear me out first, Leblanc is a champ who is in serious need of a nerf, she's a mage/Assassin (assuming the assassin part) who has WAY too much safety on hand, she can just dash to you in a team fight and burst you down, then back out with a blink, thus already putting the opposition in a bad spot, she also has a stun, and heck, she even creates a frickin' dupe when she gets low, look, I just think she's a mage with WAY too much safety on hand to get such burst, I excuse Kassadin because at least his teleporting's an ult that costs more mana with each shot, Leblanc, she's what I call, a champ with low risk high rewards since as I stated before, she gets a lot of safety while doing tons of damage, now Leblanc mains are free to start hating.

26 Comments

archerno1Jun 1, 20166 votes

Leblanc doesnt have stun. She has root which is a skillshot that can be dodged. She already got gutted when they removed her silence. She needs buff not nerf.

StickyOctopiJun 1, 20162 votes

She definitely doesn't need a buff.

If you w in and press e the chain will hit 100% of the time and there is no counterplay aside from flashing away. Or she one shots you.

In all seriousness, leblancs lane phase is more toxic than zeds is. Just a toxic champ.

GeauxxJun 1, 20163 votes

not at all, the chain is easy to dodge, regardless of her current position, and even easier to predict when it's coming. leblancs in a good spot as she is, not too strong, not too weak.

she doesn't need a buff or nerf.

GlîtchyJun 1, 20162 votes

Say that to the people who get bursted down by her, c'mon, she can one shot the carry in a team fight just by charging them like a Kenyan olympic runner and literally back out within the blink of an eye, that's too much safety.

CatastropJun 1, 20163 votes

It's called being an Assassin, it's what she's supposed to do. She already struggles to be useful at basically anything other than oneshotting one person in a teamfight, any nerfs might just straight out gut her.

GlîtchyJun 1, 20162 votes

So by that logic, Zed's ult no longer being shaken off by QSS wasn't equivalent to injecting him with steroids?

SithesisLordJun 2, 20161 votes

No. Because Zed, like LB isn´t a teamfighter. He´ll ult someone. If the other team is smart, they´ll lock him down and kill him before he does anything at all.

Besides, Kayle(against Zed) and Lissandra(against both Zed and LB) exist. So does Exhaust.

GeauxxJun 1, 20163 votes

She can also be blown up just as easily, and thats the point of her kit, the only thing you've said is a personal opinion about a champion. a person with common sense wont positions themselves in a spot to get blown up like that. a leblanc with common sense wont dive into the front line to attempt to blow the backline up.

Now, if you can post some number with some proof, then maybe you could convince others of a needed nerf.

The only thing i will have a possible agreement with you about, assuming you feel the same way, if that she gets stronger earler from indirect buffs coming from CDR added to more AP items.

StickyOctopiJun 1, 20162 votes

it's easy to dodge if she just throws it. But if you w into their face then e you can't miss it. It is impossible.

Literally press w into their face, chain, q, r. Kills every squishy in the game. Then w back and you're safe. Definitely should be gutted.

archerno1Jun 1, 20162 votes

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She definitely doesn't need a buff.

If you w in and press e the chain will hit 100% of the time and there is no counterplay aside from flashing away. Or she one shots you.

In all seriousness, leblancs lane phase is more toxic than zeds is. Just a toxic champ.

How is her laning phase more toxic? Laning against her is easiest part of playing against her. Its her biggest weakness and biggest reason why she is on 45% winrate and why she falls off easily. Pick ANYTHING with semi decent waveclear, dont stand inside minions and shove. She will have to use her W and Q to last hit as she is bad at farming under turret. She wont have mana and CDs to trade with you. You will always be ahead in farm. Pick Exhaust just in case. Her late game is horrible due to everyone having some MR and due to her being so squishy she gets 2 shotted. Her laning phase is horrible due to her shitty laning phase. Only her mid game is somewhat decent unless opponent have hexdrinker/abyssal.

But i will admit she is kinda ok in Bronze and Silver due to players there having bad reaction speed and low mechanical skills to deal with her.

SOLOQSUPERHEROJun 1, 20163 votes

Honestly you need to just consider what chamions you play against her more closely.

Champions like Morgana/Lissandra have enough cc and tankiness to lock her down.

I've found Taliyah to be fantastic against her too, she can't w over your E without instantly losing the trade, especially early on.

GlîtchyJun 1, 20161 votes

Morgana, makes things WAY too easy with her 5 year long stun, I don't own Lissandra, and Taliyah's just boring too me, an ult that doesn't damage or raise any of my stats besides movement bores me.

SOLOQSUPERHEROJun 1, 20162 votes

Well who are you playing?

GlîtchyJun 2, 20161 votes

Ahri, Veigar and Fizz.

I'm only playing Veigar and Fizz to get myself outta bronze

SOLOQSUPERHEROJun 2, 20161 votes

Haven't played the Ahri match up since they made charm no longer stop her dash so she probably will lose it now, not sure.

Veigar is a toss up. If you can make it out of lane without her getting a kill you're fine, but that's alot easier said then done.

Fizz it's basically dog eat dog, she can kill you you can kill her. I don't personally like these match ups as it becomes a snowball battle.

Lissandra is solid champ in general, I think would be good for your pool. Rush abyssal scepter, play safe til six and you have negatron and you'll be able to beat her. Take ignite, not tp.

Korea uses lux as a counter to LB and it can work if you know what you're doing. Another solid and more forgiving choice could be karma. She can bully LB early. What's nice about karma also, especially if you have a damage top lane or jungle and a squishy support, you can go athenes first for a solid amount of cheap stats and get ahead pretty quick.

PentaJukeJun 1, 20162 votes

Meh shes completely fine, complain about zed plz.

GlîtchyJun 1, 20162 votes

Okay, Zed's ult is absolute bullshit that is no longer effected by QSS. there.

GlîtchyJun 1, 20162 votes

A dislike on all my posts in this thread....I sense a hater is near.

M15TAH JAYJun 2, 20162 votes

so she needs a nerf purely because people don't know how to move tf out of the way? really? ok just gut every champion THAT YOU CAN'T LANE AGAINST and turn it into league of catering to crybabies

Friendly RamJun 1, 20161 votes

What sort of nerfs would you suggest?

GlîtchyJun 1, 20162 votes

Perhaps extended cooldowns if not just nerf her damage all around.

Friendly RamJun 1, 20161 votes

Lower base damages would be good.

Punching TopJun 1, 20161 votes

Maybe a nerf like the zed's ultimate one we had before a year - 1 second delay before Zed could re-activate his ult. It wouldn't be such a big nerf for Leblanc 's W.. It will make her not to focus on towerdiving (or towerdive and being shot by only 1 turret shot).

LordGeovanniJun 1, 20161 votes

Its not a stun its a bs root with high damage. Assassins have skills with a good amount of utility which is basicly put there because full damage kits would be too bland but for some fuking reason is stronger utility than most other champions in the game like a 2.5 second aoe stun idgaf how long it takes to fire it. projectiles with true damage on the return and 1.5 second roots. why are these on high damage champions with low cool downs thats just utility thats not even taking into account invisibility which is kind of okay if brief and mobility for engages and excapes.

JustMonika13Jun 2, 20161 votes

LeBlanc is first and foremost an Assassin meant to make it easier for her team to finish a game early (if not forcing a (foolish) surrender). She's meant to oneshot people early on. Look at some LB games in higher ranks and you will notice that when the games last longer, her win percentage in those longer games is less than win percentage in shorter games. Once people start grouping up and (hopefully) building MR, her job of one shotting the carry becomes harder because the whole team is around and will (again, hopefully) have any CC that can lock her down and make her into dinner for the team. If you make it harder for her to one shot the carry, it might just gut her.

That being said, I absolutely despise LeBlanc, but I understand that there's ways to fight her, especially later into the game.

zlumpyJun 4, 20161 votes

I noticed something on the faerie queen or w/e the skin name is called. About 75% of the time when she used her hop I didn't see an indicator on where she would hop back to. When I did all I saw was a small greenish blue smoke cloud. Is that normal or do I need to look into something with my graphics? Made it very difficult to throw a velkoz knock up when she hoped in from off screen but not FOW off screen.