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JhomasTefferson··1 votes·248 views
Riot, just make a fucking public service announcement.

Someone brought up something in this thread which is actually a really good point. And it wasn't me. He said

Is harassment really worse than trolling though? I'd rather have a bunch of competent teammates even if they rage and cuss. At least they are trying and not trolling. I never understood why ragers and pessimistic players get a worse rep than trolls and afks. I mean at least they are playing the game and not actively trying to screw their team over.

I think we've found a fundamental problem with our community. For some reason ragers and "negative players" get off much worse than trolls. Why? These "ragers" often offer criticism, which, while hurtful to ritos sensitive fanbase, can actually make you better, and they actually play the game and don't inhibit you from winning the game. Trolls and afks actually contribute nothing to the game, and make it much worse, and give you a 10% win rate, or something like that. Can someone bring up a statistic for how often people with a "negative" or "toxic" player on their team win the game, because i bet its higher than 10%. Why do we hate the people who actually play the game and enjoy it, albeit in a way that most others don't, much more than the people who don't play the game and enjoy it in a way that makes other people hate it. At least for the ragers you can mute them. The trolls and afks though, they can't be stopped in game. And that would be ok, but you don't stop them out of game either. You don't say, "well, this guy said in chat, 'lol, gonna feed', then went 0/21/2 as whoever, better ban him". You say "This guy said 'fuck' and 'you suck' to another player. Holy hell this guy is gonna ruin the game." You let the people who troll really hard and afk off with something like "well, maybe they just had a bad game/day" and you hit the ragers and "negative players" with bans, when in reality it should be very much the opposite.

This got taken down in feedback. I was told it would fit here.

4 Comments

Deep Terror Nami1 votes

How about people stop thinking they need to sacrifice good sportsmanship to get good gameplay? You can have both.

JhomasTefferson1 votes

I agree. I just think the first step should be removing trolls as opposed to removing ragers, as the removal of the trolls, while a lot of work, will lessen the amount of ragers. That will make the second step much easier.

Deep Terror Nami1 votes

The problem with that thinking is that actual trolling is far and away less prevalent than people simply doing bad (or just the enemy doing better). People rage just as hard against someone that legitimately made a mistake as they do against someone purposely trolling. Even if Riot somehow was able to get rid of trolls better than they can now, the decrease in toxicity would be so small you wouldn't even notice. Intentional trolling is not as common as you think; it's simply negativity bias and you remember it (and/or mistake bad games for trolling).

JhomasTefferson1 votes

Not necessarily.

Most people i play with in normals tend to not rage at mistakes, but rage hardcore at trolls. I notice some more raging at mistakes in ranked, but I still see much more focused at afkers and trolls. I see the people who just rage at everything too. But they're less common than the other two branches of ragers.

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