Ranked game system is broken. I might have a solution.

ToolooT··2 votes·522 views

Promos: Match us with other people in their promos. I know it would be really hard to find two full teams but atleast find another player so you know hes going to be serious about winning. Ive lost TONS of promos because of trolls, AFKS, people with no game knowledge, people who are unskilled or simply dont care.

The amount of LP loss is also a problem Players performing well even when they lost shouldnt be punished for having bad team mates. The other day I lost my Silver 2 promos AGAIN and the system made me lose 41 points. I was at 59 which means I had two/three other games to win to get back into it.

Individual performance should have an impact on your LP loss. If we get completely steam rolled and most of my team ends up with a C but I did well and end up with an A, I shouldnt lose the same amount. I know its a team game but the problem is that you are matched with complete strangers. Its more about luck than about skills when you think about it. I almost always do good if not really good (been carrying alot of games mid and most recently ADC). Why should I lose 20 points when I performed really well?

Make us (the players who want actually want to win) lose less LP and fix the promos and the experience will be way less frustrating

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Augment ELO1 votes

NOTE: I just reread your post and I'm warning you it might attract some circlejerkers who will say stuff like " I deserve Challenjour but teams holds me back, gg nub." You might want to take that out to avoid trolls.


It's League Points (LP). IP is the currency you get from games, but you probably meant that. As for what you are saying, the amount you win/lose depends on your MMR, and your teams average MMR. Riot doesn't release it but 3rd party sites such as op.gg can help you approximate it.

tl;dr If your teams average skill level is higher, you will gain less for a win and lose more for a loss. If your teams skill is lower, you will gain more for a win and lose less for a loss.

ToolooT1 votes

I know about MMR. I fixed my post.

If I remember correctly MMR pretty much means if you get on winning streaks your MMR will go up and the competition will be harder. Same thing if you lose, you get matched with people struggling. If thats the case it doesnt make sense. So I get better and I have to play against higher MMR teams which means if I get a single troll in my team it gets even harder to win. The opposite, if I lose alot I get matched with other people who lose alot (the baddies, the trolls, the afks etc) and its even harder once again to win...

My MMR has been lower than average for a while now (alot of duo queues) even when I get on win streaks with complete dominations.

SmokedAlmonds1 votes

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I know about MMR. I fixed my post.

If I remember correctly MMR pretty much means if you get on winning streaks your MMR will go up and the competition will be harder. Same thing if you lose, you get matched with people struggling. If thats the case it doesnt make sense. So I get better and I have to play against higher MMR teams which means if I get a single troll in my team it gets even harder to win. The opposite, if I lose alot I get matched with other people who lose alot (the baddies, the trolls, the afks etc) and its even harder once again to win...

My MMR has been lower than average for a while now (alot of duo queues) even when I get on win streaks with complete dominations.

That is an incompletely description of MMR and completely distorts its function.

Your MMR is a numerical representation of your rank. It does rise faster and fall slower with streaks. That is to move people to where they belong faster. If someone is winning 70% of their games there is an extremely high chance they are way better than their rank, so they climb faster.

When you win your MMR goes up and EVERYONE in your games will be higher. When you lose it goes down and everyone will be lower. Not just your opponents, but also your team. Now, if you aren't improving as you rank up games will become harder because 5 of your opponents got better but since you didn't improve, only members of your team did. The opposite is also true of losing. If you lose without getting worse(tilting or learning bad habits) then games will be easier to win because 5 of your opponents got worse and only 4 of your team did.

This is a team game and there will always be things they can do to cause you to lose. No one is suggesting that things like losing because there was an AFK on your team is the result of you not being good enough. But, the impact of individual games on your rank is extremely insignificant. And when you lose those games due to external factors you will have a higher chance to win successive games. Also all those things you feel are holding you back are happening on both teams. We just don't notice them as much when they work in our favor and remember them even less. They also happen to everyone.

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