Blue is your junglers. It is not yours to come from mid lane to take every time it comes up, it is something that your jungler may wish to give you, but they are not obligated to give it. I don't tax your lane, so don't tax my jungle.
Aerothal4 votesIt's neither Mids, nor the jungles. It is a team game. Therefore the buff belongs to whomever will make use of it the best at any given time! If you are one of those junglers that smites blue away from mid out of spite because "you didn't ask" then please make sure you give me the name of your main so i can block you. I don't wanna play with douches like you who have a shitty attitude! And i don't believe for a second that someone like you doesn't tax the lane.
Tin Tarantino1 votesAnd then there are those idiots that wait for you to almost finish a camp and then just smite steal it, if they are going to take it the least they could do is help damage it up to that point or tank it.
Murlock Rager4 votesIf you really want blues, junglers should be able to grab purple smite and smite all your cannons away, but of course you would report them for that, also blue buff gives 25% of the xp in a clear, red giving another 25%, so that alone, not counting the gold they lose, is enough of a reason they should be able to take it on their own. its in their jungle, its their camp, its their choice.
Drunk Rummate4 votesconsider how useful it would be to have an ahri that can spam her charm on cooldown for over a minute. she lands a single charm and she forces her opponent out of lane, or kills them. then ahri has a big advantage in lane.
and what would you use the blue buff for? to complete your farm cycle 8 seconds sooner with the cooldown reduction? nice.
i'd rather snowball my midlaner without having to actually be in their lane.
Deep Terror Nami3 votesGenerally, the first blue is yours to facilitate clearing the jungle until you have the items to sustain yourself. That's pretty much it, then it's a team decision, not just yours.
Jamaree2 votes[{quoted}](name=Valkyrie Witch,realm=NA,application-id=cIfEodbz,discussion-id=k17r6XjX,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2015-01-13T05:42:39.006+0000)
Generally, the first blue is yours to facilitate clearing the jungle until you have the items to sustain yourself. That's pretty much it, then it's a team decision, not just yours.
Personally, I think it is his/her decision HOWEVER, it should go to the person who both needs it more and can use it most efficiently, which normally is the mid laner, as long as they didn't feed. If they did, fuck them, and especially don't give it to the mids that go like "Only reason I lost it because you didn't give me blue!!!" So you can't control your mana cost properly, good to know.
Deep Terror Nami3 votesTeam game. Team decision. That's really all there is to it.
Jamaree2 votes[{quoted}](name=Valkyrie Witch,realm=NA,application-id=cIfEodbz,discussion-id=k17r6XjX,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2015-01-13T05:45:22.734+0000)
Team game. Team decision. That's really all there is to it.
Oh ok then, then you won't mind me strolling into your lane and taking some of your farm, it is a team game and a team decision afterall.
Deep Terror Nami3 votesIf that was something effective that is normal in the meta. But it's not at all. Your scenario is just you being an asshole on purpose as if somehow you have a point in there. Mid taking the blue is (depending on champion of course) generally a very effective strategy used in the normal meta. If you don't want them to take it, you might want to prove to everyone that they've been doing the wrong thing for years and you know better than the rest. Enough nonsense please, you know better than this.
Jamaree1 votes[{quoted}](name=Valkyrie Witch,realm=NA,application-id=cIfEodbz,discussion-id=k17r6XjX,comment-id=00000000000000000000,timestamp=2015-01-13T05:54:28.867+0000)
If that was something effective that is normal in the meta. But it's not at all. Your scenario is just you being an asshole on purpose as if somehow you have a point in there. Mid taking the blue is (depending on champion of course) generally a very effective strategy used in the normal meta. If you don't want them to take it, you might want to prove to everyone that they've been doing the wrong thing for years and you know better than the rest. Enough nonsense please, you know better than this.
If a mid laner is feeding, there is nothing effective or tactical about it, they will just end up feeding it to the enemy. I have only ONCE seen a case of blue buff being the deciding factor in a losing lane when the jungler gives it to a lane not doing well. If you are behind a few deaths to the opponent, guarantee all that is going to happen is they will play aggressive on you, and take your blue buff and all you did was waste experience, gold, and time giving the opponent even more of an advantage. Blue buff should go to the person who can use it the most, at times it is the mid, at times it is the jungler, but jungler takes precedent, as long as he isn't feeding either.
Deep Terror Nami3 votesNow you're just making the specific scenario where you are correct. My position is not "if mid laner is feeding, still let him have blue". Am I supposed to now argue back that you are wrong in your little scenario?
Jamaree2 votes[{quoted}](name=Valkyrie Witch,realm=NA,application-id=cIfEodbz,discussion-id=k17r6XjX,comment-id=0000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2015-01-13T07:33:40.757+0000)
Now you're just making the specific scenario where you are correct. My position is not "if mid laner is feeding, still let him have blue". Am I supposed to now argue back that you are wrong in your little scenario?
Even ignoring the scenario, I'm going to keep saying what I'm have been saying since the start. It goes to the person who needs it the most and can use it the most effectively.
Deep Terror Nami4 votesThat was never in contention.
Apex Citavista3 votesThe only reason this post has down votes is because mid mains wanting blue, no matter what. I'm a jungle main, blue is not mid laners, it's a jungler. If I give it to mid, it's actually that, it's a GIFT. BE THANKFUL. However if I have a mid laner that demands blue, I will not give him it because I will not reward his poor attitude. If he is feeding, I will not give it to him. If i think it's just more useful on me atm, I'll not give it to him.
It is a GIFT. remember that mid laners. That's why whenever I play mid, I will ask for blue, not demand it. I will not just stroll over and take it. And if I am given blue, I always thank my jungler.
Raise Dongrs2 votesI completely agree. When playing mana-dependant junglers, it is very frustrating when a mid comes and takes your blue without your A-OK. Plus, if they're doing bad, you're basically giving the enemy mid a free blue buff
727PP2 votescould not agree more. the sense of entitlement is too strong for mid laners
Blazing Tenshi1 votesJunglers never give me blue since the new jungle :(
"manaless or GTFO" - Rito
Live2LetDie1 votesSecond+ blue is less effective on the jungler than it is on mid lane. Your chilling in your jung where you can afford to run out of mana and still complete your camps,esp after first blue, while your mid lane is in a constant battle. Imagine taking blue from xerath or LB, your basically handicapping them in lane since they are constant poke champs with heavy mana costs, but o you got to clear another camp. Its a team game and you should prioritize objectives correctly, like how the adc deserves to get red because it will proc it more.
Bake A Leg2 votesdo you ever play fiddlesticks, without blue he cant farm :/
Acidic Puddle1 votesSTFU, the middle lane is the most important lane. When people say to group, 75% of the time it is in the middle lane. So if they need the blue buff to dominate their lane then it should be theres. It is only a very selfish jungler that takes more than 2 blues wit ha heavy caster in the mid lane. Unless the jungler is the main carry of the game it should not matter, and blue buff doesn't even give large rewards anymore...
Bake A Leg2 votesThe reason people generally group mid is cause top and bot can push their lanes more efficiently, so it would prove more useful to push mid, which generally has more towers, which means more gold, it has nothing to do with the lane
Acidic Puddle1 votesIt has everything to do with the lane, say you need to get to their base and all the towers are down, which lane do you go down? Point proven.
Bake A Leg1 votes" all the towers are down" Read the comments before you reply... "(mid) generally has more towers, which means more gold"
