@Lyte: You simply can't leave it to a machine to assign permabans.

darkdill·May 21, 2015·2 votes·342 views

I don't care if you think it's better for the community, permanently banning someone with a machine making the "decision" is just bound to get you into some serious trouble. Permanent chat bans are more reasonable, and something we've wanted added in, but you seemed to ignore us and insist on "GTFO OF OUR GAME!" stuff.

Worse, I can only imagine some people might want to actually ATTACK RIOT over something like this (i.e. petrol bombs). It's not like your building would be hard to find, and do you know how easy it is for people to make explosives? Not much harder than making a model volcano. (Hey, I'm just quoting someone else I heard.)

Let's try to avoid that violent scenario, shall we? Prevent your new system from assigning permabans on its own; permabans should only be assigned by human operators. It doesn't matter if it's a heavy workload; it's a matter of principle.

16 Comments

Deep Terror NamiMay 21, 20154 votes

Their system isn't as stupid as people want to believe it is.

darkdillMay 21, 20151 votes

Unfortunately, it's the very concept of it that's making people mad. Machines and programs can be badly programmed and thus you get banned for just being slightly mean. You want that?

Photos of GhostsMay 21, 20151 votes

NOPE NOPE NOPE. They just wanted more effectiveness, THUS swapped to an automated system IN ORDER TO punish more people with exactly the same criteria while they fix the human system.

The Anagram KingMay 21, 20153 votes

It's amazing that Google can consistently exist, and people still think it's difficult for machines to organise chat-based trends.

It's not the tech potential, it's the way it's programmed. Self driving cars and self-flying planes are indisputable proof of machine's ability to outperform humans. So a consistent ban system might be interesting. Maybe even - gasp - better than a random jury of players tribunal.

Deep Terror NamiMay 21, 20152 votes

My example would've been Skynet.

SEKAIMay 21, 20153 votes

Riot doesn't go around actively hand out perm bans like hotcakes, it's pretty obvious they would program it in such a way that it's only reserved for those really special kind who really can't behave or improve, to the point Riot would say "You know what, I don't need your money, I just don't want you here".

Maybe, just maybe there are some unfortunate people who aren't that bad but still get perm banned. But let's be frank, to attract the attention of this particular system one has to be really bad, being less of a toxic bum still doesn't really justify their previous behaviours.

Photos of GhostsMay 21, 20152 votes

Anyways very toxic people complain about their chat restrictions and get them to be hand--reviewed, and as a result get permabanned already because Rioters see how unbelievable they are, so not much will change.

darkdillMay 21, 20151 votes

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Riot doesn't go around actively hand out perm bans like hotcakes

Well excuse me if that doesn't make me feel any safer. I'd prefer it if Riot didn't have permabans at all and instead went with permanent chat bans for toxic people. Just make the person shut up, don't stop them from playing.

SEKAIMay 21, 20151 votes

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Well excuse me if that doesn't make me feel any safer. I'd prefer it if Riot didn't have permabans at all and instead went with permanent chat bans for toxic people. Just make the person shut up, don't stop them from playing.

Chat bans is actually the type of punishment that shouldn't exist really, since it punishes the team this player (the punished) is in by giving them a refuse to communicator but maybe that's just me.

darkdillMay 21, 20151 votes

Chat bans are actually good. If you really need to communicate in games, pings are better. Typing is actually frowned upon these days because you'll die to skillshots that you're supposed to dodge.

Photos of GhostsMay 21, 20151 votes

The system is more efficient than the previous human judgement, and it doesn't hand out permabans, only chat & ranked restrictions.

KãtãrinãMay 21, 20151 votes

it even says it can hand out 2 week to a perma ban

Photos of GhostsMay 21, 20151 votes

Never heard about it anywhere, are you talking about Leaverbuster? Because leaverbuster says that.

Photos of GhostsMay 21, 20152 votes

Oh ok, now I read tht it's on PBE. Well, I just have to say FUCKIN FINALLY.

SarutobiMay 21, 20151 votes

Im pretty sure if they have an automated system that can perman ban someone it would probably be for something like excessive swearing, use of Racial/Demeaning words. In all seriousness i dont see why people need to even swear in this game. it does absolutely nothing to help improve the game, or does anything to help the teammates so why use excessively for that matter? Plus im sure people are just taking things out of context. As serious as a perma-ban is, im sure actual people will look into the report!

Deep Terror NamiMay 21, 20151 votes

For the bans, the words they used were;