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CertainlyT gets hell for trying new things.

LOL Spammer·10/9/2015, 3:01:41 AM·8 votes·501 views

Literally, he is the most creative designer there is. Sure almost all his champions are overtuned but that is just a reflection of his attitude. He is ambitious and loves to shove a lot of stuff into one kit. Almost all his champions have a very high skill cap, and all of them are unique. This leads to making a very fun main to play. It means that if you get good enough at one of his champions (which takes work) you can play them to high potential. I just feel like you guys (the community) blames so many things on CertainlyT when he doesn't deserve such criticism.

This next paragraph is addressed to CertainlyT himself. Your attitude is shit. You mock players that mock you, you don't reply with kind words or listen to your community. In this I agree with the community, you need to improve your attitude. I mean I know it must be hard with everything that is said about your champion designs but pull it together. I think if you explained your ideas to the community and the potential of them they would have much more sympathy than what they have now.

Thirdly, Morde needs to be started from scratch. The idea was a good one in theory but now after 2 months of being live he still has a win rate of 58.3%. That is too high. He has a banrate of 50%. He is relatively fun to play as but not fun at all to play against. There is little to no skill in his current kit. In my opinion all of your other designs work well for what they were designed for. Morde however does not meet your requirements.

15 Comments

Daedalus87110/9/2015, 4:44:43 AM9 votes

Nothing against new things, but Certainlyt has a tendency to take things too far. Darius is supposed to be some sort of ramp up fighter, which is fine, but there's no reason for him to have some 25% Armor Penetration. He also had 3 out of the 4 types damage found in the game, making him incredibly hard to fight against. Thresh's Lantern and passive are rather new, but he has everything a support could possibly want and goes well with team comps. And I don't even get me started on Yasou and Kalista.
He does seem rather snarky. I know he gets a lot of hate, but he seems to be a rather hypocritical example of Riot's "verbal abuse is not reason to respond in kind".
Agreed. Morde was already suffering an identity crisis, is he supposed to be the Master of Metal or Pain's Paladin? All of his skills say Pain's Paladin, but he's a giant suit of metal armor with a giant mace. At this point, I'd say he needs a Sion level rework.

Keevalroy10/9/2015, 6:00:38 AM6 votes

I just feel like you guys (the community) blames so many things on CertainlyT when he doesn't deserve such criticism.

The second paragraph, coupled with his complete refusal to make ANYTHING even remotely healthy is why he deserves every ounce of criticism he gets. He has no intention of correcting his mistakes, no desire to promote healthy gameplay, and has no sympathy for the people who suffer at the hands of the cancerous abominations he continues to pump out despite us shouting from the rooftops for him to stop.

He's too pretentious and proud to admit he's making horrible mistakes with these releases, and has convinced himself that he's some golden god to worship, and we simply don't understand his "genius." Anyone can overload a kit to hell and back and claim it's healthy regardless of how toxic the community claims it is - that's not creativity, that's a flaw in design and a red flag in development the longer this continues to happen.

How about this: when Morde was reworked, and his mains were flocking to defend their champion from this mistake of a rework, naturally, they're very upset. After an eternity of silence, he then turns into a passive-aggressive dick and has the audacity to say that he didn't speak to them because he felt they didn't deserve an answer. I mean...after all that's been said and done, how in the actual fuck are you still allowed to touch champions? You don't care about us, you don't care about game health, you don't care about fairness, you only care about satisfying your self-righteous ego and patting yourself on the back when people play your broken bullshit champions just to be able to win.

Ratbert10/9/2015, 3:11:30 AM3 votes

Fun, uniqueness and high skill cap are all secondary to balance. Otherwise it becomes not fun anymore to see one champ 24/7, and spammers will have mastered the "high skill cap". His unique things also rapidly become the norm because new champs need to compete.

DJColdCutz10/9/2015, 3:16:22 AM3 votes

If we had his attitude in a game, we'd get banned. Fuck Riot.

ihaveapotion10/9/2015, 8:20:29 AM2 votes

Your first sentance got you a downvote already so i dont feel like reading the rest of your post.

Borbland10/9/2015, 8:30:55 AM2 votes

Overtuned doesnt make a champ broken.

Ekko for example, is definitly overloaded, but he was never broken. Yes, he was OP, but his gameplay is fun, and has definitly some counterplay. Some nerfs later and he is in a good spot.

He tries new things out, but does the other designers, Bard for example is maybe one of the most unique champion created yet, and he's fine.

The problem is, his champs may be unique, but they lacks flaws. He gives mobility to nearly all of his champs, and mobility cant be counter in any way. You cant punish someone for using mobility. You can punish someone for placing a shield a the wrong time, closing to close to try hitting a single target ability (Even tho single target abilities are kinda unhealthy) or missing a skillshot.

Yes Darius or Morde doesnt have mobility, in Darius case, I think he only needs nerfs. He's OP not broken imo, but Morde definitly needs something. That W passive is maybe fairly creative, but not a good addition.

AntiSkillshot10/9/2015, 3:19:36 AM1 votes

There's nothing wrong with trying new things. But when you have nothing to actually deal with new things... Yeah, there's the problem.

Chaotic Reks10/9/2015, 12:42:41 PM1 votes

Good ideas yes, poor execution however

Catastrop10/9/2015, 3:20:37 PM1 votes

I will admit he gets way too much shit than needed and I like a few of his designs Kalista Thresh however, he goes so overboard sometimes that I think he only cares about his champion being fun and disregards how that champion affects the players who have to play against them. Yasuo is a prime example, I tried him and had fun but when it was time to actually fight one, it was just horrible. So many things just to kill one champion that all the effort that goes into shutting a Yasuo down just doesn't make for a fun experience.