I'm tired of these posts saying "I'm Quitting" or "League isn't even fun anymore"

LOL Spammer·Feb 24, 2016·169 votes·7,244 views

Honestly like it's just getting on my nerves, if you have something useful to say about how to improve the game or how to make it more fun I'm all up for your suggestions, but just telling us how unfun the game is is not useful whatsoever. I don't care if you quit, and no one else does either. Do you really think saying like "This game sucks so much I'm leaving" is going to help Riot with feedback? That's like calling customer service and telling them your item is broken I'm throwing it away. Do you do that? No! You actually help work out the problem instead of just complaining about how the item sucks.

How about we try to give some constructive criticism instead of just yelling at Riot. Most of these posts aren't even asking them to help they are just saying how much the game sucks. Like really, get a grip. Change your attitude. I don't want to act like you are 6 but please grow up and approach the problem in a professional way that might actually get stuff done. Hell I don't blame Riot for just dismissing almost everything said on the boards, because there is no actual advice given. People ask for red responses on subjects they aren't even asking a question, there is all this talk about toxicity on the boards, but in actuality, we are flaming riot. Think about that for a while and next time you go to rant at riot take a deep breath think about how your post could actually be useful.

170 Comments

LVL 5 POROFeb 24, 201648 votes

People make suggestions all the time but Riot doesn't listen to them. A few examples ...

Riot: Fiora Community: %hp true damage is a bad idea. Riot: Does it anyway.

Riot: XinZhao Community: Those buffs a unnecessary. Riot: Does it anyway.

Riot: Mordekaiser Community: Melee champs cannot function well in bot lane without being ridiculously op. Riot: Does it anyway.

Its not hard to see why people make those sort of post. Can you honestly say any of them ended up in a healthy state? Nope. All of it could have been avoided if player feedback was heeded.

HighH1Feb 24, 201666 votes

So basically Riot is the Zeus of gaming? Zeus:I'm gonna stick ma dick in it Greeks:Don't stick your dick in it Zeus:Fuck it I'm Zeus I'm gonna stick my dick in it

LVL 5 POROFeb 24, 20164 votes

Pretty much.

DevilishMetalFeb 24, 20166 votes

As much as I disagree, that's really funny XD

YCitizenSnipsYFeb 24, 20164 votes

No one said that about Fiora before her rework. Hell people were busy calling Fiora's rework a failure on release.

And people have begged for Riot to find away to make melee's viable bot lane and be able to lane well against them. As soon as Riot tried with Morde everyone started crying.

The only one you're right about is Xin, but hey the boards can get one right every now and again.

LVL 5 POROFeb 24, 20167 votes

Kit wise - that was the first and major thing the community had a problem with in Fiora's kit, because there is no counterplay to it. Actually, the community had a problem with everything in her kit, and they were right, she's received nothing but nerfs since her creation. Mord's problem wasn't just that he was a melee fighter in the ADC position, its that he was massively broken. Which again, the community was right about. But hey, some people can never be right.

DecritFeb 24, 20163 votes

True.

Also it is really sad to see many users of boards to remember just what they feel comfortable to remember.

EDIT: SRY I MESSED UP WRONG REPLY

Penta PenguinFeb 24, 20163 votes

"Press R to kill your target under their tower" Fiora wasn't good and the reason why Riot tried to rework her

Penta PenguinFeb 24, 20164 votes

I love these "community said" posts where everyone in League of Legends apparently thinks the same thing, or that said "everyone" is always correct

LemurKickFeb 24, 201633 votes

Those threads seem to be pretty effective upvote farms.

FortisDominusFeb 24, 201631 votes

http://www.spacetimestudios.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=15419&d=1345255984

ModCaptainMårvelousFeb 24, 201623 votes

Sorry but even constructive criticism won't help. Not because Riot doesn't listen but because the boards are, by and large, terrible sources of suggestions. If boards had their way:

Every single assassin would be dumpstered
Tanks would be broken
ADCs would have all the changes that made them unique removed in favor of "We all shot at varying ranges."
The game would be balanced around a primarily Bronze/Silver level of understanding.

G&B doesn't want the game to evolve. They want the game to regress. They want to go back to times with problems. There is no vision for the future, there's only nostalgia blindness. The one time, in recent memory, that I can recall Riot listening to the community by a majority was the Garen and Skarner reworks. Two reworks so absolutely busted right out of the gate that they needed hotfixing. Riot didn't do that, community input did.

Oh. And this whole "OMG STOP RANK PRIVILEGE" shit needs to stop too. A Diamond player saying you're wrong and explaining why isn't a bully and you don't have the same gameplay knowledge as him. Quit acting like a victim because you're not good at this game. (Not directed at the OP. Just directed at the G&B people who see this post and downvote it because "omg shut up I'm 58% win rate in Silver V I'm so good at this game" )

TL;DR I'm bad at league, you're bad at league, 98% of players are bad and they shouldn't be the ones making suggestions on how to change the game.

Duke AnaxFeb 24, 201611 votes

{quoted} The one time, in recent memory, that I can recall Riot listening to the community by a majority was the Garen and Skarner reworks. Two reworks so absolutely busted right out of the gate that they needed hotfixing. Riot didn't do that, community input did.

I hate this argument constantly being thrown around, even by Riot. because It's factually wrong.

Players tested them, said they are way too weak, Riot buffed them a bit. Players tested them again, said maybe still a bit too weak. Riot buffs them helluva lot and sends them live without further testing. So who actually did wrong here?

ModCaptainMårvelousFeb 24, 20162 votes

Except if you remember the arguments, the majority of players were NOT saying "Oh they're still on the weak side", they said they needed more buffs. And more buffs. And more. Funny story: When they hit the PBE with the final iteration, players DIDN'T go "Omg tone these guys down". They said it was fine. They said "ok they're good now ty" and then they stopped buffing them.

Players, by and large, are subject to terrible bias and horrible balance decisions. Very, very few players can objectively make balance suggestions and almost all the time those players are high-tier players who know what they're doing.

Hyrum GraffFeb 24, 20163 votes

{quoted}

Except if you remember the arguments, the majority of players were NOT saying "Oh they're still on the weak side", they said they needed more buffs. And more buffs. And more. Funny story: When they hit the PBE with the final iteration, players DIDN'T go "Omg tone these guys down". They said it was fine. They said "ok they're good now ty" and then they stopped buffing them.

Players, by and large, are subject to terrible bias and horrible balance decisions. Very, very few players can objectively make balance suggestions and almost all the time those players are high-tier players who know what they're doing.

There's a difference between balance feedback and gameplay feedback, though. It really doesn't matter what rank someone is when they say "The timing on thing champ's combo feels weird" or "It really feels bad when I'm playing diana, I hit vayne with my Q, R to her and she knocks me back mid-dash, and my ult goes on cooldown."

MasziiFeb 24, 20162 votes

Riot doh.. Buff lot dont test...

Guy Fox TeemoFeb 25, 20162 votes

Could you list examples please? The only one I remember was skarner, which they hot fixed immediately.

The PBE is HORRIBLE for balance testing, the small player base and huge differences in MMR, make it really hard to grasp how strong something is. Everyone SUPER over hyped Dusk Blade being OP on Zed, but in reality it isn't very good unless in specific circumstances. And even then after the patch, Zeds win rate didn't even move, sat at 51% still.

OneSmoothDudeFeb 24, 20163 votes

They also listened to the community about Katarina's face in her new splash art, Fiora's face in the updated splash art*, and also creating the true Solo Queue after the huge backlash against Dynamic Queue. They (read: Repertroire) also seem to be incredibly respectful about how the community feels about Vel'koz and Malzahar inregards to their upcoming updates.

*Even though they listened and changed this, they said something really funny in this piece they wrote about her around 2 months ago speaking about her rework development.

The feedback highlighted a disconnect between ChampUp’s understanding of Fiora and the understanding players had developed through their interactions with her. In playing as Fiora, game after game, players gave her an identity of their own invention. Rhee frames it as a natural evolution: “Once a character goes live and players learn that character and use that character (sometimes in ways we don’t anticipate), that character becomes something different from what we built.” In other words, the character matures. Rhee explains that players rejected Fiora’s new art not because of its objective quality, but because “the update failed to honor who Fiora had become for players.” ChampUp focused on her haughtiness and better-than-thou attitude, but players more closely associated her with a young, beautiful swordswoman.

That whole bold part is just plain incorrect. lol They say that players disliked her new splash because there was a disconnect between her player-given persona and the way Riot wanted to represent her, when in reality she was just ugly. She simply looked bad. You just can't make characters who were once very pretty and normal-looking into caricatures of Disney villains without being called out for it.

TeCoolMageFeb 24, 20164 votes

You're not plat. You don't deserve to have an opinion.

If 98% of the player base is bad, balance the game for bad people. Seriously, that 2% isn't going to buy as many skins or spread the word as much as the 98% simply because they're better. It's basic marketing principle and logic.

ModCaptainMårvelousFeb 24, 20162 votes

That's a fucking awful argument.

Name any sport balanced around the lowest tier of play. Right, you're not going to have an answer. No, they balance around the highest tier of play. It's why Xin's buff seems sick nasty broken OP on paper but in Diamond-plus his win-rate is still barely over 50%. The community thought Zed/Talon would be absolutely destroyed with this new item...and then the item turned out to be garbage, which means it'll likely get a buff, which means it'll likely get the same complaining from the boards because they don't know how the game works.

If you design and balance for the lowest tier of play, the game becomes bad and stagnant. Simple as that. (inb4 "hurhur game is already bad")

TeCoolMageFeb 24, 20166 votes

Sports balanced around the lowest tier of play: EVERY SINGLE SPORT EVER

Because sports have more than one set of rules. One for the pros, and one for the children. There's a reason why girls playing football can't be tackled, only tapped, or that the ball in volleyball is sometimes softer than normal with a lower net to go with it. Or that slam dunking a basketball is unfair for shorter kids.

If there was an official sports company that copyrighted that sport, only allowed that set of rules to play, and had to rely on funding from every single players' payments, even the children who don't play officially, they'd balance it for the largest group.

Idc if diamonds have bad win rates. It's not my fault they play differently, but it's Riot's responsibility to maximize their profits even if some random kid yells about how immoral it is to cater to the group that contributes the most.

ModCaptainMårvelousFeb 24, 20163 votes

Right, because there are separate games. You can play little league and you can play pro league. That doesn't mean the little league should go around pointing at pro league and saying "Hey change it"

I get it, you want pro play to be balanced around both bronze and Silver but that isn't happening. More importantly, which you seem to be forgetting, I'm not saying to completely neglect the casual audience. There is still a ton of stuff for those players....but the reality is that there has to be a point where the company puts it foot down and says "No, you're wrong".

Look at DoTA. The balance ~~team~~ person there doesn't talk to people. He nerfs and buffs accordingly. He doesn't think of what that kid in 200 MMR will think of this Riki buff, he thinks of what it'll do for pro play. Guess what: It works. It may not be the same game but consistently and constantly forcing pro play to be weaker because the bronze-to-gold players refuse to adapt is only going to make things worse.

You're not asking for there to be a pro league and a little league, you're asking for the little league to point at the pro play and tell them "PLAY OUR WAY BECAUSE THERE ARE MORE OF US THAN THERE ARE OF YOU!"

TeCoolMageFeb 25, 20162 votes

That's the problem: sports is a completely different situation because you can make up your own set of rules and still play.

And no, I don't want pro play to be balanced around bronze and silver. I'm arguing that pros don't do much for Riot and it's ridiculous to balance the game for pros.

As of now, Riot doesn't balance based on people's opinions on the boards, which I respect a lot, but saying that pros get special treatment makes 0 sense (any mentions of something seeing pro play is PURELY because pros are easier to observe in official tournaments and streams), they balance based on their own internal values and how it's reflected on all skill levels with emphasis on where their profits are coming from. If the boards complain "omg Xin OP, please gut him", Riot won't suddenly start gutting Xin, but when they believe through their own system of balancing (which is shrouded in mystery, like, seriously.), that Xin is in a bad place, regardless of whether it's bronze who find him in a bad place, or everything above silver, then that's when Riot starts dishing out the nerfs/buffs.

It's not at all forcing pros to play like bronze, it's forcing the entire community to play by what they believe is a balanced game and therefore finding more fun in it due to fairness. It's just a coincidence that 'the entire community' is mostly bronze and therefore have a huge say.

Timely VoidlingFeb 24, 201618 votes

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YCitizenSnipsYFeb 24, 201619 votes

Riot doesn't balance around a hand full of biased people on the boards such as yourself. And you not liking the game isn't any indication that their is actually something wrong with the game over all.

All I've heard since I started playing in season 3 is people like you saying Riot is ruining the game. Yeah the currently popularity of the game sure is evidence of that prophesy.

I've said it before and I will say it again, every one has access through these boards through their clients. There is a couple million player in NA alone and a "hot" topic around her is lucky to get 100 unique posters, not all even from NA.

If "the players" are actually upset with the game, you will know because this site will actually get real traffic. Right now its as I said, just a hand full of biased people like yourself who are continuously crying about game health until your favorite champion/role becomes the popular one. Then all of a sudden the game is just fine becasue you and a couple of circle jerkers from these boards are happy with the changes.

DamagefoxFeb 24, 20165 votes

I know I have said it before, But I have been playing SMITE myself, by far a wonderful alternative to League, and Like warframe seems to listen to what their community is saying. I have been playing sinse Season 3 and coming into season 6, I am just fed up. Found I am able to enjoy my game alot more because I dont have to worry about getting banned because some spoiled brat with an ego didnt like me telling him He wasnt perfect.

Infact I just go out of an awesome Arena Match where I helped Chiron get a quadra in a clutch teamfight and No one was having a tantrum over "YOU STOLE MAH KILL!!!! KS KS KS WHAAAAA" Nah, We let them enjoy the quadra, fought as one, and I was able to get the game winning kill. GG WPs all around, no one tearing down thier teammates.

But back here, Spoiled brats can get anyone who doesnt agree with them banned, Riot doesnt give 2 quacks about thier community.and they give all the power to these little Call of duty tantrum kids.

Thats why I refer to League as the "MOBA for Preschoolers" because thats primarily who you play with, people who have a tantrum if you even look at them the wrong way and are able to get you banned for not telling them how special they are.

Mech0pFeb 24, 20163 votes

chances are if you got banned you would have to do way more than what you claim... riots not gonna ban you for calling them out if they deserve it but they will ban you if your flaming your team which is rightly deserved

KieferrFeb 24, 20163 votes

You're bronze. You don't deserve to talk about balance. Not saying I'm any better, I'm most likely not. But still, please learn your place.

DevilishMetalFeb 24, 201612 votes

Rank shaming isn't cool, man.

High5Feb 24, 201617 votes

Creating threads to comment on this are either farming upvotes or feeding the original problem. Neither is productive.

WadeWilson1337Feb 24, 201614 votes

The thing is how often do Riot ACTUALLY change anything based off the boards? Basically never. Boards say xin buffs are going to be op? They do it anyways. Boards say just make the q on Kogmaw more powerful? They nerf attack speed. And then people have REALLY good ideas that should be SO EASILY implemented like making refillable potion benefit from the potion mastery or putting the feast cd next to thunderlords, but Riot basically never does anything. The ONLY THING that i have seen Riot listen to on the boards in the past 6 months was that they didnt nerf Skarners Q? Maybe his E? and completely gut a champion who never even sees any play. But that is legitimately the only thing i can recall since the Juggernaut Patch. If riot wants constructive criticism, they need to learn to use it, otherwise you just waste peoples time and piss them off.

YCitizenSnipsYFeb 24, 201618 votes

The boards also said the Ahri changes were gonna be bad for her. That all the juggernauts were gonna be weak. That Fiora and Gangplank's reworks were failures. That AP itemization changes were gonna break dot mages and Vlad would have to be nerfed. That Tham Kench was to under powered.

Just because the boards are right every once in a while doesn't mean that they aren't wrong the other 90% of the time ore even worth listening too. Hell I've been seeing people for years claiming how bad this game is getting and how its dying off. Funny how it only keeps getting bigger isn't it?

Handin Out NapsFeb 24, 201614 votes

Riot is honestly correct to ignore the boards about balance. Holy crap if they actually listened to this place this game would be so fucked.

WoonStruckFeb 24, 201611 votes

Everyone HAS been saying what they can do to improve the game. Riot won't listen, which is why people are leaving.

Most people just want towers that aren't wet gobs of paper and the new minion mechanics all removed, and then ADC itemization to be nerfed, or other itemization to be put on-par.

The fact that they continually nerf tank items and buff ADCs is what caused a lot of this.

Pandemic PunchFeb 24, 20168 votes

{quoted}

Everyone HAS been saying what they can do to improve the game. Riot won't listen, which is why people are leaving.

Most people just want towers that aren't wet gobs of paper and the new minion mechanics all removed, and then ADC itemization to be nerfed, or other itemization to be put on-par.

The fact that they continually nerf tank items and buff ADCs is what caused a lot of this.

Upvoted for calling for the removal of the minion changes. Lets grab the pitchforks

63536895_DELFeb 24, 201611 votes

This post is bad to put is lightly, there have been dozens of construtive post with suggestion on how to fix

Ridiculously long death timers
Turrets being way too weak offensively and defensively
The about 20 champions that are complete cancer and many other problems but they don't listen to any of it, the most we ever get from riot is "we feel these changes are going in the right direction"

if you have something useful to say about how to improve the game or how to make it more fun I'm all up for your suggestions

Suggestions??? We've given them suggestions left and right, like don't buff champions that don't need to be like LeeSin Lux XinZhao . There were at least half a dozen post on the boards before Xin got buffed saying how he would be too strong and that the buffs should be toned down significantly.

Oh and here's the best part, when Riot doesn't listen to constructive post and suggestions at all, and then people come on to the boards saying they quit or the game is shit, there's people like you that White Knight Riot saying the quitting post get on your nerves and that we should try making suggestions to Riot about how to improve the game. Like fucking really???

Gregor GysiFeb 24, 20163 votes

There is plenty not constructive criticism on the boards which is what op is talking about. He is clearly not talking about the constructive criticism, how come you are so offended? Also, I suggest you take a look at surrender at 20, moobeat does a great job at summarizing all riot posts on the boards/reddit/elsewhere. While the communication between riot and the community is certainly not perfect, it's way better than you make it seem.

63536895_DELFeb 24, 20166 votes

OP isn't talking about non constructive criticism, OP is talking about quitting post and post expressing how they feel about the game, sometimes in not so respectful ways. OP says we should offer constructive criticism and suggestions when we do that all the time, the boards varies a lot. Its the homepage that indicates how the game is going because thats where the most upvoted post end up, signifying that a majority of the community (the boards community that is) agrees with what that post said. If there are constructive post on the homepage then thats a good thing because the community upvotes constructive post they agree with and thinks Riot should consider, however if the homepage has quitting post with enough upvotes to get to the homepage then something is most likely really wrong. My previous comment may have made me seem offended, but I wasn't really, it was probably my word choice that made it seem that way.

I don't really like Surrender@20 and use reign of gaming instead, I just feel like its easier to navigate, the 2 sites usually have a lot of the same information. Do you know if the moobeat post is on RoG? If so could you link it?

The communication between Riot and the community is pretty bad IMO, I feel confident in saying that at least 90% of the community could see the buffs would push Xin over the top, and there were several top threads expressing that, but Riot went through with them anyway, and I feel when the mages update comes around the boards will be in a similar situation with Vel'koz. Most people see him as perfectly balanced as is, but Riot has confirmed that they're going to change him in the update no matter. Vel'koz has a small dedicated playerbase that likes him the way he is, and I have a feeling that they're going to be royally pissed off after the update, but god forbid Riot leave arguably the most balanced champion in the game alone despite several top post asking them not to change him. Its things like this that make me think Riot really just doesn't give a shit about anything we say. I don't play Vel'koz, but I feel bad for his playerbase considering how bad most of the recent reworks have been.

NiyumiFeb 24, 201610 votes

See, I make a lot of posts talking about how boring this game can be, and how I'd REALLY love to find a new game worth playing, but I don't bother making suggestions since, in the end, Riot would only lose money.

I come from a generation where gaming was challenging and fun, and developers actually cared about their product and loved what they did. Now, developers are just a bunch of greedy suits out to milk whales for every cent they have, and couldn't care less about their game. Challenge, immersion, quality... these are all irrelevant for games these days, especially F2P.

So, what suggestions would I make? Well:

Remove targeted abilities outright and make everything a skillshot. If an ability is still targeted, make it pathetically weak compared to skillshots, and have no major damage or CC.
Make AAs NOT the highest source of damage, despite being the easiest, most reliable source of damage in the game.
Have more than one map.
Actually write lore, not just events meant to hype reworks or skins.

Now, how likely is any of that to happen? Close to zero.

See, in an F2P-ridden gaming industry, good games just don't exist anymore. They don't sell, since fucking brats these days won't lift a finger or use one brain cell to think. So, honestly, why bother making suggestions that would just lose Riot money in the end?

All I can do is continue playing games I can't stand, and hope that a developer who actually gives a damn comes out and releases games that force every other developer to actually put some effort into their products in order to compete. Sadly though, that'll never happen; greed is too fucking rampant a flaw in humanity.

LOL SpammerFeb 24, 201612 votes

I don't understand your logic. So because it is a f2p game, the designers don't want you to have fun. Makes sense.

NiyumiFeb 24, 20168 votes

Because it's an F2P game, the developers don't care if people have fun or not, and don't care about the quality of their game, so long as they make money off of whales. So, we get half-assed content, a lack of balance, no lore or anything, and all that, because of F2P.

Look, I know you're not old enough to understand how businesses work, so I'm not going to bother writing several paragraphs talking about F2P vs. P2P vs. B2P models. Just know that F2P is a hell of a lot more than just cash shop or no cash shop.

AlëkFeb 24, 201626 votes

{quoted}

Because it's an F2P game, the developers don't care if people have fun or not, and don't care about the quality of their game, so long as they make money off of whales. So, we get half-assed content, a lack of balance, no lore or anything, and all that, because of F2P.

_**Look, I know you're not old enough to understand how businesses work, **_so I'm not going to bother writing several paragraphs talking about F2P vs. P2P vs. B2P models. Just know that F2P is a hell of a lot more than just cash shop or no cash shop.

Now THAT was just straight up uncalled for no matter whether it's true or not. That kind of uppity bullshit is just not required when we're supposed to be having an adult discussion (to some extent).

Urgonnalearn2dayFeb 24, 201610 votes

PS Bros - if you have a bunch of people stating that it's unfun that is feedback.... it might not be feedback you like, but it is feedback. I don't see you complaining about the "Yi is OP" threads where they just ask for nerfs.... (any champion fits this btw)

disregardableFeb 24, 20168 votes

There's nothing constructive you can say to a gaming company that cares more about balance than fun. I couldn't even bring myself to play for a week, because I had no faith I would have any fun.

And I was right. I've played 6 games since my break, and only one of them was fun. What a giant waste of effort and frustration. I don't know why I haven't quit yet.

LOL SpammerFeb 24, 201610 votes

You are the kind of person I don't want on my thread, git.

Urgonnalearn2dayFeb 24, 20167 votes

[{quoted}](name=LOL Spammer,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=tyr7T8E4,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2016-02-24T02:24:17.141+0000)

You are the kind of person I don't want on my thread, git.

Donald Trump is that you?

ProzzakFeb 24, 20166 votes

The only reason people make those posts is because they do still care about the game. When you are truly done with a game you leave quietly.

Lithium RosaFeb 24, 20166 votes

They bring alerts to Riot. 90% of the changes they made only decreased the fun of this game, yet Riot designers still think they are smart. These posts are just trying to wake them up, to make them realize that their stupidity is growing every single year. We used to post quality feedbacks, a lot of them. But that's no use, they are just constantly ignored and will remain that way until Riot wake up from their daydream and realize they screwed up.

DingleNutsMcGeeFeb 25, 20164 votes

Problem with what you're saying is..........every single day there are posts of people giving suggestions and ideas to fix all the things Riot destroyed since the preseason began, and Riot doesn't listen at all. They take literally 0 suggestions from the community. We've voiced our opinion loud and clear about all the horrible changes they've made, and yet not one response from Riot saying "hey ya guys we screwed up" or "hey guys thanks for the suggestions, we're going to put some of those to use." They've decided for us that the game is better played with friends, even though I would argue at least half the community disagrees with that statement. I don't enjoy playing with friends. It makes the game too casual, like call of duty. People are more focused on dicking around than trying to win. They've decided to take the skill cap and minimize it. Hell, we cant even use warding to get an advantage over our opponents anymore, they've taken that away from us. Warding is one of the things that separates good players from bad ones, but nope, I'm not allowed to have that anymore. They've taken away the ability to to use sweeping lens on invisible enemies....something that, again, separated good players from bad ones. I've seen countless posts on all of these points, and yet.....nothing from Riot. They have made it pretty clear that the community's opinion damn sure doesn't matter AT ALL! They're turning this game into a casual team deathmatch simulator. I've voiced my opinion and made suggestions for so many things I cant even count anymore. But Riot is hell-bent on turning this game into Heroes of the Storm or Smite....games that have a very low skill ceiling. Its honestly going to be funny when this game we all love falls to the middle or bottom of the moba pack in terms of number of players per day. For the last couple of years riot has been light years ahead of them in how many people play the game, but after seeing what riot is doing now.....their numbers are already falling and it will continue until millions upon millions and millions have moved on to other, better games. Riot is like someone who wins the lottery for 500,000,000$ and then spends it all......but then a couple years later has only 20$ left. All they're left to do is shake their collective heads in disbelief and wonder where they went wrong. Guess what Riot?! We've been telling you for months now where you're going wrong! It honestly saddens me to see what they're doing to this game I love so much...but I've already partially moved on to Smite. Once or twice a week I'll try playing 2-3 games of league....and every time I do, I'm reminded of why I don't play it every single day anymore. I mean...you know you've screwed things up big time when your own pro players are complaining about all of your terrible decisions. That's another one of Riot's problems, is that they're way too focused on the LCS. ALL of the changes they've made is b\c of the LCS. Like 2% of the league population even watches or cares about it. But they felt that every game was just starvation tactics, so they made all of these changes so that the team in the lead could easily close out games. But all it's done is cause teams to play even MORE cautious than ever before lol Teams are afraid to take one single solitary risk, cuz it could end the game in seconds. I'm done. Riot's gonna do what they want to do regardless of whether the community likes it or not. They think they know best, when obviously that couldn't be further from the truth.

IncubusReaperXFeb 25, 20162 votes

haha I was about to reply to the original post... He clearly doesn't pay attention to the boards... I'm glad you saved me the time on your response.[slayer-pantheon-thumbs]