Say a game gets into a really toxic quagmire where someone goes into the "I'm gonna come to your place and XXXXXX" zone. And then say the person making that threat actually gives out the real-life address information of the person he's threatening.
What's your policy at Riot? Police intervention?
Just curious.
Spikeman713 votesYou buy a gun.
Trídent1 votes+1
50000000000000001 voteswtf, did this actually happen?
darkdill1 votesNo, just hypothetical.
Flying Buntcake1 votesWell I think this is a really ethically grey zone
Kouga1 votesRiot's ability to intervene would (I imagine) pretty much be limited to taking it as a complaint and suspending or banning the account of the aggressor, but the question of something like "Police intervention" is outside of their jurisdiction. Riot Games is a private corporation, they aren't law enforcement; whether or not police could or would take any action would completely depend on the police agency in question.
In this hypothetical situation, the 'victim' of the threat would need to contact their local police department and determine how they handle these sort of statements. There are legal ways of obtaining someone's address (and plenty of illegal ones), but simply saying "I know where you live" may or may not be considered a criminal act depending on the location.
And then it would depend on the circumstances of the threats and the police agencies involved - if the aggressor and the victim are in different countries (a very real possibility on an international game like League), then the aggressor may be outside of the police agency's jurisdiction to take any kind of intervention. Unless someone actually showed up at the house of the 'victim' I doubt anything would come of it.
This is speaking as a police & ems dispatcher. In our state, this likely wouldn't qualify as Harassment, and even if it did, likely would not get past the DA's office to prosecution.
Angry Monster1 votesWhy are you asking the impossible? To actually guess someones actual home address is maybe 1 in 1 trillion billion.
Their are over 3000 counties in the USA. Then their are over 20,000 cities and that does not include sub cities or rural expanses. Then how many fucking streets exist in the united states with X numbers.
So lets be honest, Riot would not do a damn thing. Cause if this event ever happened it a stupid prank being pulled by someone on someone else.
You might as well ask what are we going to do if the sun disappears? Stupid questions do exist.
edit: how the fuck are people up-voting this trash thread. PEOPLE FUCKING THINK.
Vakosh5 votes[{quoted}](name=Kaosu Desu,realm=NA,application-id=cIfEodbz,discussion-id=hBFzkHMz,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2015-06-23T08:31:06.918+0000)
Why are you asking the impossible? To actually guess someones actual home address is maybe 1 in 1 trillion billion.
Their are over 3000 counties in the USA. Then their are over 20,000 cities and that does not include sub cities or rural expanses. Then how many fucking streets exist in the united states with X numbers.
So lets be honest, Riot would not do a damn thing. Cause if this event ever happened it a stupid prank being pulled by someone on someone else.
You might as well ask what are we going to do if the sun disappears? Stupid questions do exist.
Hey man, he's just curious no need to be so hostile.
Angry Monster1 votesIf a riot member responds to a thread like this i will literally lose it. Who cares if he is just asking. At some point you have to sit down and think, is this a real possibility. What on earth would have to happen for a random player in a game to have access to you personal information that is not stored or asked for by riot.
I am just asking why people can not think bro. If you read hostility then maybe you actually understand the stupidity of the question OPs question.
Miss Wake n Bake4 votes[{quoted}](name=Kaosu Desu,realm=NA,application-id=cIfEodbz,discussion-id=hBFzkHMz,comment-id=000400000000,timestamp=2015-06-23T12:33:45.433+0000)
If a riot member responds to a thread like this i will literally lose it. Who cares if he is just asking. At some point you have to sit down and think, is this a real possibility. What on earth would have to happen for a random player in a game to have access to you personal information that is not stored or asked for by riot.
I am just asking why people can not think bro. If you read hostility then maybe you actually understand the stupidity of the question OPs question.
Um, Im sorry to break it to you, but if someone wants to know where you live and all your information, they'll get it trust me. I've been stalking my biological father for 5 years. All i had of him was a picture. No name, no nothing. And a PI I hired found him in 2months. Just off of a picture.
So ya, if some demented fuck wants to figure out where you live and do whatever they threatened to do to you, then they will. No offense but its really kind of stupid for you to think otherwise. Have you ever heard of something called....an IP address? It's easier now than it ever was. I hope you don't use Skype!!
Before your criticize others, look at yourself first. Maybe its not a stupid question, maybe you just have a stupid comment...
Just some food for thought <3
Trídent3 votes^ If you actually think you are safe behind a screen and that no one can find your actual location... best to get off the internet. ^-^
Miss Wake n Bake2 votes^ If you actually think you are safe behind a screen and that no one can find your actual location... best to get off the internet. ^-^
Wait, why did you reply this to me >.>
Thats literally what I just said LOL
Trídent1 votesidek >.<
Angry Monster1 votesThat is not the same thing and you know it. Its completely different if you use your real name on a site like face book. I know people can figure out where you live if you give them data.
We are talking about a random player in a random game being able to tell where you live in under an hour. If in a game you gave people your real name, face book, or anything else you are asking for problems. A user name in league is not enough to get anything.
So i stand by what i say. It is still not a real issue for a league game.
Zedex6 votesKaosu you're naive.
Angry Monster1 votesBefore your criticize others, look at yourself first. Maybe its not a stupid question, maybe you just have a stupid comment...
No and you are also , like every other fool taking the situation out of context. So you are making stupid comments.
The situation is in a random game, someone is going to be able to get your real address info. STOP, cause that is it. This is not 2 months later and having on you friends list. This is not paying someone to go out and find info. This not about you giving them other info to go hunt you down. Just cause you can add things to twist something does not make the original sitation OK.
See the difference? Do you understand that we almost never play with the same people? League of legends is pretty secure and it is not the game it self that gets high level players DDoSed most of the time. It is the voip software or msging software that they use.
Good job taking the whole thing out of context clap. it is impossible with just a league game name to track someone. Riot does not even use game names in their server data. So if you changed your game name from your account name it is even harder since you would be looking up the wrong server data.
Miss Wake n Bake3 votesLol, I love how you completely ignored the whole IP thing. You are seriously delusional and need to do your research before putting others down. Im actually not sure if your just trolling at this point. I didn't think someone could really just be that ignorant. Holy crap.
Bravo sir, you still have no clue how the internet works and probably never will.
And I didn't know you have to use your real name on Skype? You do? Because I don't. And I've had people tell me my real address over it so...hmmm. Odd. Must have just been ghosts whispering in there ears or somethin.
Read the other users comments. Your literally the only fool here. I thought this was common knowledge. I guess not.
And seriously dude, stop making yourself look stupid lol. Learn to use google please! Look it up yourself. Please link me all the sources you find saying that it is impossible to find out someones real address in under an hour. I'd love to read them and I'll completely apologize and call myself and idiot if you do. Start linking!
Angry Monster1 votesactually please learn how the internet works.
Skype is know to have security flaws. one reason why it not installed on my PC.
You are one that knows nothing. Keep making stupid claims.
Miss Wake n Bake3 votesStill waiting for your proof buddy.
Angry Monster1 voteshttp://www.zdnet.com/article/how-skype-does-and-doesnt-work/
the imporant part of the story
You see, Skype is a modified peer-to-peer (P2P) network application.
League does not use p2p. We are not directly connected when playing a game to each other. We use a SERVER, The server is not even publicly licensed, no one out side of riot owns the server setup.
If you do not understand the difference here between league and skype, may god help you cause your a loss cause.
Miss Wake n Bake2 votesCan you please read others comments...
Did i ask "how does skype work? please give me proof"
No i asked "Please link me all the sources you find saying that it is impossible to find out someones real address in under an hour."
So im STILL waitng buddy.
Edit: And funny enough after reading your irrelevant article, I love seeing how many comments there are saying that its completely wrong....LOL. Maybe you should look at the source and see if its credible before linking.
Angry Monster1 votesSeeing that you do not understand the difference about server based applications and p2p applications, i can no longer converse with you.
the reason i posted how skype works cause of you stpuiod comment
And I didn't know you have to use your real name on Skype? You do? Because I don't. And I've had people tell me my real address over it so...hmmm. Odd. Must have just been ghosts whispering in there ears or somethin.
You are using skype as a bases that people can get your info from LEAGUE. People can not get your info FROM LEAGUE. They would have to break into the player data base that is completely separate from the game servers.
Vakosh1 votes[{quoted}](name=Miss Wake n Bake,realm=NA,application-id=cIfEodbz,discussion-id=hBFzkHMz,comment-id=0004000000000000,timestamp=2015-06-23T16:20:00.996+0000)
Um, Im sorry to break it to you, but if someone wants to know where you live and all your information, they'll get it trust me. I've been stalking my biological father for 5 years. All i had of him was a picture. No name, no nothing. And a PI I hired found him in 2months. Just off of a picture.
So ya, if some demented fuck wants to figure out where you live and do whatever they threatened to do to you, then they will. No offense but its really kind of stupid for you to think otherwise. Have you ever heard of something called....an IP address? It's easier now than it ever was. I hope you don't use Skype!!
Before your criticize others, look at yourself first. Maybe its not a stupid question, maybe you just have a stupid comment...
Just some food for thought <3
You tell em sister!
Trídent5 votesIt's actually very easy. Most people don't have a VPN, so you can easily track their IP to their current street address in a matter of minutes. Even if they have a proxy, it'll just take awhile more... so calm down.
There's no need to guess >.<
Angry Monster1 votesOk how are you going to get their IP from a league game? Pretty sure it is impossible.
Trídent2 votesPretty sure it is impossible.
If you can track someone through several VPNs on a secure website, tracking someone on a GAME client would be nothing. >.<
It's fairly easy to get the player's IP. It is FAR from impossible. It's how drop hacking is a problem in League rn.
Angry Monster1 votest's how drop hacking is a problem in League rn.
drop hacking attacks the server you are on. Not the players themselves. Please know what you are talking about
Trídent2 votesPlease learn what YOU are talking about. The IP is the address of the player's server. >.< This is basic stuff.
And as miss wake n bake says..... BAI <3
Angry Monster1 votesyou should do some research on what a drop hack is. Cause you are just as ignorant as miss wake n bake
Just cause stupidity is in agreement does not make you right. It just makes you a group of stupid people. You guys have failed to even source any of your claims.
here is a quick post talking about how it attacks THE FUCKING SERVER
http://forums.na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=2566299
Miss Wake n Bake2 votes" You can't drop a specific person or team unless they have YOUR IP, not the server's."
Do you even read the articles your posting? Your just digging yourself a deeper grave.
Angry Monster1 votesThat is exactly the point they cant get you IP. At least not from riots servers.
Miss Wake n Bake2 votesIm sorry but you truly are dense. I can't argue with an idiot. :c
You said it was impossible. But as YOUR source clearly states that it IS possible. So thanks for proving yourself wrong. There's a reason for all the down votes buddy.
Just stop now because....its just sad.
Trídent2 votesLet's just leave him be. He'll learn when he still believes he is protected on the internet and gets DDoSd. If not, well, add one more person to the world's idiotic population. ^-^
Miss Wake n Bake2 votesWell said <333
Miss Wake n Bake2 votesTrident, as you can tell this guy is just trolling us. No need to waste your time. Multiple people are telling this guys hes wrong yet he won't believe it.
Ignorance is Bliss
Trídent2 votes
GundayMonday2 votesYou can do a little bit of work and figure out where people live based on their internet data. This is honestly not an unreasonable thread and there are a few scary people out there that play video games to unwind.
Trídent1 votespssh, not "scary" >:{
LaceUp231 votesI laugh at you.
Miss Wake n Bake1 votesFunny enough, this happened like in reverse to my boyfriend. Some guy was talking shit to him saying he was going to come to his house and rape me and shit, so what does my bf do?** Give out our fuking address**. Yeah he wanted to meet the dude to see what would happen. Long story short, of course dude never comes. But get who gets a PERMANENT BAN. My boyfriend. Simply because he gave out his real life address. When I read the email, I was like.....LOL. Don't ban the person making the threats, ban the person that challenged him back. Makes perfect sense.
But anywho, I have no clue what happened to the other guy, but since this fell into the same realm (kinda), I thought i'd add to the discussion. Pretty sure you'd just get hit with a perma ban just for giving out ANY real address and getting reported for it. Other than that, I doubt they would do anything at all.
Dusty Rodgers3 voteslol i hope you don't marry that guy
Miss Wake n Bake1 votes[{quoted}](name=Dusty Rodgers,realm=NA,application-id=cIfEodbz,discussion-id=hBFzkHMz,comment-id=00050000,timestamp=2015-06-23T12:30:30.317+0000)
lol i hope you don't marry that guy
Well if he doesn't propose soon then your hopes will come true xD
IcyPepper2 voteswhy don't you propose to him? :D
He'll never see it coming!
Miss Wake n Bake1 votesHaha well I DID think about that but hes kinda one of those old fashioned guys (won't let me open a door or seat myself, at first was weird but now im terribly used to it -_-) so I know it would really upset him. I know he just wants everything to be perfect and get me a big ring but, Im a simple gal. A ringpop would do just fine, just pop the question already xD
IcyPepper2 votesSounds like a sweet deal, eh?
Well good luck, and I hope he does it soon! The one thing old-fashioned men often forget is that ladies don't always like waiting too long. :3
So yeah, good luck!
Wickedfates1 votesthe supreme court recently made a ruling that the jist of is online death threats are not real without showing the mind of the defendant is serious....displaying the person's home address after making such a threat would seem to me at least to be showing credible threat...