There are some things that are just not acceptable for Riot to do. This is one of them.

ChickenWrap··5 votes·515 views

It has been brought to my attention that somebody on the support team has taken a request for logs on what I assume to be a chat ban, which they are supposed to provide upon request, and declined it even though they told the player that they had looked at the logs (not pictured below due to wanting to keep their identity as safe as possible), however this is also posted on General DIscussion by the eprson it happened to, clearly upset he provides the entire log, found here: ( http://forums.na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=4811525 ). They directed the request to Lyte personally and told them to post on the forums about it.

This is completely unprofessional. A player has asked you for logs which you have looked at, you tell them what you believe they did wrong and then refused the player the logs. Instead, you directed them to the League of Legends General Discussion board and told them to make a post about it, which sparks oh so much drama. This is completely unacceptable.

In an effort to keep things relatively clean, I will not be disclosing this staff members name, however their picture will be there to prove it is not a fake and if you want the name, feel free to go to the previously mentioned link. It's not too difficult to find on the forums and some people may chide me for providing it, but it is still part of this case. Nobody should be able to get away with purposefully attempting to start drama with a player they're supposed to be helping.

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9 Comments

Sneak Dog2 votes

The support team only gives chat logs for 14-day and permanent bans atm. Part of their current policy, probably to more efficiently allocate their resources, if you're chat restricted you're out of luck (or the opposite?). You just have to bear with it, you don't need a lot of messages per game anyway.

If you have been 14-day or permanently banned, then I don't know either why you don't get chat logs.

Calabok2 votes

You should not need the logs. YOU already know what you type in games. You're just asking for MORE punishment coming here and whining.

ChickenWrap1 votes

I am not the person who is at fault here, that is someone else entirely. I am not even chat restricted currently. Yes, it is true that one should KNOW what they are typing, but it is always good to have closure on what you said that got you in trouble so that you can make sure you don't do things like that again. The support specialist said it was due to sarcasm, but to have looked at the logs that they checked and to not give them and then specifically tell the player to ask Lyte on the forums is completely unacceptable. Last I checked (correct me if I'm wrong), Riot said they would provide logs upon request in a support ticket. People just prefer to ask Lyte on the forums because they like drama. This Person wanted to avoid this issue, but is being forced into it regardless by player "support"

Jeddite1 votes

Outrageous outrage.

ChickenWrap1 votes

I can understand the players upsetness. I would be upset too if something this unprofessional happened from a company this big that cares about its players.

MaknBacnPancakes1 votes

Heya CW,

I don't know if I agree with you on this man.. You have to take many things into account:

  1. we don't know how bad what he did or said was
  2. she gave him her opinion and told him, this is what I can do for you at this time, if you have further issues.. Take it higher.
  3. Riot is the company and provider, they can do whatever they please, with or without consent (sans: sell your personal info, etc..) and EVERYTIME you click Accept under user terms and agreement.. They own you (account wise).

I just can't champion causes where people act like total dcks, KNOW they are acting like a total dck, get caught in said action, get punished for said action, then want to throw their hands up as if they are confused or are the ones being wronged. That is the behavior of a child.
All these "why was I banned AGAIN?", "I deserved the first ban but I was defending myself the last time, WHY am I banned?" Just lack personal accountability. Riot is trying to run a gaming business, not a reform school for kids.

ChickenWrap1 votes
  1. We do not. Only they know (if they even do), and the support representative would know. The issue is that the representative looked at the logs, refused to give them to the player, and told them to take it up with Lyte on the forums. Not. Cool. At. All. Completely unprofessional.

  2. Asked for logs, the representative LOOKED AT THE LOGS, and then told them they would not disclose the logs to the person who the logs pertains to, but they knew that Lyte would if he was asked to. It was a simple copy+paste fix that they refused the player. They didn't want drama to happen so they did it privately, and they were essentially punished for it.

  3. If your ISP cut your net and you asked them why and they said you didn't pay your bills but you KNEW you paid your bills, would you give them more money? If your boss fired you right as you were about to earn a large raise because he didn't want to pay you more, would you be upset with him? If you called customer support with 10 months left on your warranty and they said that they no longer support warranties, would you be a little peeved? Saying "they can do whatever they want" is a complete cop out. There is a standard that is expected of businesses. This is far, far, FAR below that standard.

I don't champion those causes either, but right here it looks like Riot is being the male genital. The vast majority of people want closure on what happened so that they know where they went wrong and how to fix it. Or, that's what I wanted when I was banned before. When I got it, I learned from it, I stopped doing it, and I was never banned again. It helps, this doesn't.

CommandShockwave1 votes

The point is that if you got banned for 14 days or permanently, you can't seriously be oblivious enough to not know what you did, given how toxic you have to be to get hit with one of those punishments. If you want to play games, you can ask publicly, that's the deal.

ChickenWrap1 votes

At one point in my League career, I was banned for two weeks. I had absolutely no idea why. In my eyes, I hadn't done anything wrong. Yes, I use sarcasm a lot, but nobody was ever upset with me over it -- or so I thought at least.

most of the games that were in the tribunal case when I finally got some semblance of a log (it was before that), most of the games that were being used had a lot of text in it regarding me defending myself against accusations from the opposing team.

I still don't know what I did wrong.

However, this person did not want to play games, they just asked for the logs. The support representative LOOKED AT THEIR LOGS, but did not provide them, instead telling them to take it to the forums. They opened a ticket for a reason. This person did not WANT to take it to the forums, but they were told, essentially, they were SoL despite the player support representative having opened up the logs and read through them. It's really not difficult to copy+paste the logs for them. It is extremely clear the support representative wanted the drama to be taken to the forums, and that is highly unacceptable.

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