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Having a hard time with Sion in the jangle

Somohexual·3/16/2015, 11:11:34 PM·1 votes·524 views

I thought Cinderhulk would make Sion an incredible jangler due to the synergy with his W, but I'm having a really hard time with him. :/

It feels like...

  • I have Leona-level DPS (assuming she doesn't have an ally to proc Sunlight)
  • His passive only allows him to get 1, maybe 2, hits in before he's kited to death
  • Q is always avoided or interrupted before I'm able to charge it for 1+ second, which takes away my primary CC
  • W is almost always broken before it gets the chance to detonate in a teamfight/skirmish, which takes away my primary form of damage as a tank
  • E is a little gimmicky, even if it's a fun/strong skill
  • R is impossible to land unless you charge someone already in melee range, which makes the ramp-up component a complete waste of power-budget

I build him full tank, but then all my CC is side-stepped so I just sit there doing nothing, I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong.

  1. Should I rush a Trinity Force, or some other offensive item, and then build full tank?
  2. Should I build tanky AP like Mao/Cho? Most of my damage is magical and Q/R (which scale with AD) are his least reliable skills by far
  3. If i'm building full tank, what item should I rush after Cinderhulk? I've been called bad for rushing both Omen (against a heavy AD team) and BV (against a heavy AP team) :/

Thanks for any advice. D:

3 Comments

ProfDrDeath3/16/2015, 11:23:14 PM1 votes

For help:

http://champion.gg/champion/Sion/Jungle

Seems like a lot of people has good success with Warmog's after Treads and Cinderhulk. Personally, I am not really a big fan of Warmog's in general...

terkmc3/16/2015, 11:48:05 PM1 votes

Just full tank with maybe thornmail/IBG for damage. Shield yourself as you are charging toward their team and explode it manually. Dont be greedy, if it drop to 25%, detonate it. Q is good, either they waste cc trying to stop you, or half of their team is going to get knocked up and super stunned, and if they cc the tank its good. You dont need damage item, W scale with % max hp and your primary job is cc and your skill have huge base damage anyway. If 1v1/gank, E slow almost always guarantee Q stun. In teamfight, after you ram into them with ult, have another teammate chain cc so you can get it off. The ult you just gotta learn it, no real way around. And also dont think of your passive as a dps tool, use it as a zoning tool. A dead Sion is a huge threat with absurd tankiness and damage, meaning if you head toward somebody, cc will be wasted to stop you and/or someone will have to disengage, win-win.

FirstSergeantBim3/17/2015, 10:04:35 AM1 votes

You need hybrid penetration to do damage. Get some hybrid pen runes and use the offensive mastery tree, I even like to buy Sorc Shoes because it increases my damage so much. With all that penetration, you don't need any damage items and can build full tank from there.