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I feel partially bad saying this: Regarding The New Client

Xonra··24 votes·1,694 views

I've been using the new client now ever since...I don't even remember how long now, but no less than 6 months at the very least, since I was in before it was open Beta. I wanted to try a name change today, which seems fairly straight forward, but the new client STILL doesn't allow that in the store for some reason (maybe it just hates me, hell if I know), so I spent far too long to switch and patch over the old client just for that.

As I sit here going through the old client that I hated for so long because of the meh of it all, I have to say 100%, I prefer the older client. I wasn't one of those people who was (and some who still are) too stubborn to even really give the new client a chance, but now that I've come back to it, it is so much better (the old client).

  • Looks nicer in the sense that everything logically makes sense where it is
  • Things are easy to find, which partially goes back to the first point
  • Doesn't suffer from "looks over functionality"
  • Doesn't need a "potato mode" because of unneeded animations and what not.
  • It still has basic functionality that the new client somehow didn't come standard with (like...name changes in the store(yes I know it is there, but it basically does nothing for me and I don't know why), somehow not working with half the game modes, which confuses me, item sets, and so on).

Basically, I am going to go back to the new client after this name change simply because like windows 10, I eventually won't have much of a choice, but I think if given the choice, I'd probably just stick with the old client, because while it is "the old air client" it is at least polished with basic functionality that isn't slimmed down for shiny.

21 Comments

Dynikus8 votes

If practice mode and replays were on the old client, I would never touch the new one.

EndlessSorcerer1 votes

I just use the new client to reorder rune and mastery pages.

Recuro6 votes

I'm pretty impartial on the client, but I will say I like the old shop better. I miss being able to go to a champs page by just clicking on them in the shop. I can still find what I need, but it just seems more tedious. Feels like I gotta jump through hoops to look at skins when the old client had them so accessible. And the new champ stats being a circle instead of a bar graph is so much harder to read (but I don't look at those anyway so can't say I really care)

Also when I go to find a game I occasionally press confirm on the game mode and alt tab forgetting I have to press begin queue.

And I don't really like new champion select. All the cinematic stuff is really distracting when all i wanna do is pick a champ. Especially the entire background changing whenever someone picks a champ is pretty obnoxious. Old select was much cleaner.

Edit: Also why does opening masteries during champ select cover so much of the window? The page is so much more spread out than it needs to be and it blocks everything else. If I'm making last minute mastery changes then I can't even see my summoner spells so I if I forgot smite there's a higher chance I won't notice.

Xonra2 votes

I am mostly in agreement with everything you said here. My main issue is I feel TERRIBLE for disliking the new client, knowing how much work Riot has put into it, because regardless of how I feel, I know they are working hard to make it work right, run right, and look good. It just feels like there is so much "oooo shiny" that it is making it needlessly harder to navigate (my second biggest issue with it), as well as the "shiny" making it run much worse than the air client oddly enough (my biggest issue with it).

I am a huge stickler for "functionality over fancy", but the new client seems very much the opposite, which is why I've grown to appreciate the older client in a way I never did when it was all we had for years. It was clear that compared to other games, it was a pretty aged and aging client, but the new one really just feels like they rushed into it and just tried to visually improve over functional improve.

I appreciate Riot putting hard work in, but I don't appreciate that it feels like "wooooah this is cool", when what I want is "woooooah this functions amazingly, now we can start making it look nice".

Recuro1 votes

I know I don't like to put down Riot cuz they generally do a good job and try really hard in my opinion, but don't feel bad about giving criticism. If we don't call them out on their mistakes they won't improve. Perfect example was the HUD update, when it was revealed it was pretty terrible, but after people complained they fixed the issues and now I like it better than the old one. All my complaints about the new client are pretty trivial but do add up to and make the overall experience worse, but if they manage to fix the small stuff then it'll be a job well done I think.

Xonra1 votes

I think I'm in the same boat with the "most of my complaints are pretty trivial" but if you have "just a little water" in a boat about 40 different times, eventually that boat is sinking pretty fast. While the new client isn't absolutely broken, or ugly, or any of that, there are still a lot of things missing I would like to see, a lot of functionality from the old client I prefer (like just clicking the shop button, and so on in that little upper right corner area over the cluttered mess over the entire top of the client now), and so on.

The things alone can be shrugged off, but there are soooooo many little things that is starts to become a bit frustrating. Some of it frustrating mostly because I know they prefer it this way, and it won't be fixed, and I guess that's okay since it works, but I just want it to work at least as well as the old client and be as easy to navigate, and despite it being in alpha (for now, as I believe by the mid year update they want to be done with the old client completely), it feels like it has a long way to go.

CrazFight 3 votes

Main problem with new client in my opinion: 1: On the old client you can find things you want easily, new client the placement of things seems to be much more confusing and alot of times doesn't makes sense 2: Requires pretty decent PC, even in potato mode the client is so slow and choppy (I get about 60 fps in game) 3: No item sets (Yes im not over that)

Xonra3 votes

Thanks for the responses so far not being super negative or trash talking Riot. While I'm frustrated with the new client, I think Riot IS working hard. I think I'm just disappointed with the "flashy over substance" with the client so far. While I feel Riot might not see that, it is very evident that is the final product SO FAR. I hope that changes, and I know we will have this new client regardless, but right now I'm just a bit bummed out and frustrated with what we have so far.

Still keeping my hopes up on this specific instance, as I know Riot understands the issues and are trying to fix them, I just hope the direction they go in keeps improving the substance and usability, and we get no more "shiny", because the shiny is, I feel, a huge detriment to what it behind it currently.

deathgod52 votes

The only reason I left old client is because of practice mode.

Xonra2 votes

I just left so I would be acclimated to it enough when I play ranked. Didn't want to one day have to switch and then have to get used to it then, plus I figured honestly, they would have switched over permanently by now.

Lauchmelder2 votes

You can change your name on the new client though. It's a bit hard to find but it's there.

Xonra1 votes

It is in the store, but when I click on it, it doesn't actually "work". I was too impatient to bother logging out, logging in (despite doing that 3 different times, I got frustrated after the 4th, hence when I ended up making this post). It works fine in the old client, just decided against the name I was changing to, so haven't gone through with the name change yet.

I think it is something I need to bug report perhaps, so I'm not sure, like I said in the OP, if it just hates me or something.

Appreciate you pointing it out regardless, because there have been times I have assumed something like that and just missed it.

Lauchmelder1 votes

I can't even confirm it right now. Used all of my IP on runes just a few days ago, will take some time until I have those 14k again.

Would've been interesting.

Xonra1 votes

It very well could just be me, cause I haven't seen anyone else commenting on it, but I didn't want to bother trying over and over again, so I just switched temporarily to the old client for that. It isn't a massive issue by itself, it just kind of flicked the "yeah I'm frustrated about the new client" switch.

Aeszarck2 votes

I'm trying to adjust. I don't like the Beta Client, but I'm trying to make myself like it, and I guess it's working. It doesn't feel any better in most of the shared features, and in some cases it feels worse because I need to click more or wait longer. It does look nicer and it has cool features like Replays and Practice Tool. Basically, I'm trying to make myself accustomed to its flaws so that I can ignore them in the future and live with the benefits happily. (I do really like the graphics.)

EDIT: It also had drag and drop Mastery Pages and Rune Pages.

Xonra1 votes

Yup, same feeling. I don't really feel it is an improvement outside of it sort of looks better, but I'm not really as on that boat as some are. Champ select looks pretty fancy, and I do like the runes page aesthetic, but outside of that I think I still prefer the look of the old client overall. I like that it has the new features with replay and practice tool as well (though the more I use practice tool the less I actually care about it in the current seemingly half featured state it is in, compared to what I'm used to from other games).

idontgiveabother2 votes

I have mixed emotions about the new client. I tried it for a while but had to switch back after the immense amount of bugs, few weeks later most of them were fixed. Everything still feels a little bit off I suppose. It still takes a while for tabs to register when you click on them, and it just feels different. Not sure how else to describe it. I will admit it looks more polished but I honestly think people just need the function to play a game and could careless about half the updates.

Xonra1 votes

I'm pretty much in the same boat as "I don't care about all this flash I just want to play the game", but the problem is when I have to turn off features or put the game in "potato mode" so I don't black screen or lag in champ select, then sadly it starts directly impacting me trying to play. Have had at least two dodges involuntarily from my client just being a black screen in champ select for some reason (Seems to still be a known issue as of even the past few weeks).

idontgiveabother1 votes

Ouch that must suck. I thankfully don't have that issue. Just the tabs loading slowly is the only real performance "drop" I see.

TyrekGoldenspear1 votes

I feel pretty positive about the new client (barring the hiccups), granted I started playing in S6, so I'm not as used to the old client as say many other people here.

Visuals are a pretty big thing for me, and I really like how the new client flows. Again, this is probably only because I haven't used the old one enough to be entrenched completely in its flow.

So I think it's fair if you like the old one better, I feel like I'm more willing to stick with the new client because I'm one of those kind of people who really values presentation.

Xonra1 votes

I will be the first to admit that I'm likely so used to the old client and how it flowed, since I have been around since like season 2. There are some pretty jarring aesthetic changes that I'm between not getting used to and not completely wanting to get used to (just have to be honest).

I don't have an issue giving the new one a try, though, as I completely switched over shortly before open beta. It was just kind of a reminder of the things I liked about the old client more, and how I've more been TRYING to like the new client over simply liking it naturally.

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