Just added these to Karma's model
https://i.gyazo.com/c81784b09340d92fbb6e2f0fbcd7d8f2.png https://i.gyazo.com/79cfb55c3d0a6d521bb697627af6c9a0.png
Heck they dont even have to put it on the original or the newer skins (order of lotus or warden)
Pl0ximus RITO
Lady Donatella5 votesI'm your biggest fan! <3 Get it? Fan...Ill just leave now.
Jokes aside. I really want the fans back on Karma. It made her super unique to her and plus it was what inspired the Riot to make her. If I recall correctly, the community wanted a champ that used fans as weapons or such. Riot listened and used the fan idea to help make Karma. Hopefully they bring it back. It made Karma more unique and appealing.
#BringBackTheFans 
TNHA Baritone4 votesSome asshole downvoted this and you
Lol I have some haters.
Lady Donatella3 votesXD. Eh just brush them off. If you have haters you are doing something right. <3 :D
Ionian StarChild1 votes[{quoted}](name=Lady Donatella,realm=NA,application-id=cIfEodbz,discussion-id=eq8LTMPu,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2016-04-08T22:18:08.847+0000)
I'm your biggest fan! <3 Get it? Fan...Ill just leave now.
Jokes aside. I really want the fans back on Karma. It made her super unique to her and plus it was what inspired the Riot to make her. If I recall correctly, the community wanted a champ that used fans as weapons or such. Riot listened and used the fan idea to help make Karma. Hopefully they bring it back. It made Karma more unique and appealing.
#BringBackTheFans
Right?!
She feels so...incomplete without a weapon. The mantle just doesn't do it for me. It would've made sense if she actually used the twin dragons in it as her weapons but now it's just a distracting backdrop that she has to drag around with her. I think if I recall correctly (don't quote me on this), when Riot made the post about what people wanted to keep on her for the rework, the majority of the posts were her fans and how she was a "flowing dress" lady, making her stand out as a classy, elegant woman. Now that was back in the days when Riot was just experimenting with reworks. Karma was their first attempt at a rework. Now that they've learned and honed their craft, I feel like Karma deserves a second chance. This time I'm all for them bringing back the fans and either modify the mantle to look "natural" on her or just remove it entirely.
Lady Donatella2 votesI really liked Karma when she had her fans. It made her super unique and I always felt so badass when I was playing her. Hopefully they bring it back.
Ionian StarChild1 votes[{quoted}](name=Lady Donatella,realm=NA,application-id=cIfEodbz,discussion-id=eq8LTMPu,comment-id=000000010000,timestamp=2016-04-08T23:02:49.570+0000)
I really liked Karma when she had her fans. It made her super unique and I always felt so badass when I was playing her. Hopefully they bring it back.
Oh you're not alone in that regards. The fans added a sort of mystique to her, and made sense with her theme at the time since she had inner flame boosting her damage when her health was low. The enemies were not expecting that damage boost most of the times! It also gave her an added personality, complimented her lore greatly as this calm, composed, and demure champion that moved elegantly even when she's battling other champs. She was on a whole other level of inner peace; hence her title of the "Enlightened One". Lastly, the fans gave her a "tactical" feel, signifying her role as one of the elders of Ionia, someone people look up for her leadership capabilities. These points may be a bit biased but the fans truly resonated with Karma as a champion. Hope she gets them back :)
Ariel the Cruel1 votesI agree with the significance they played on Karma. And I liked them because of it - even if they were under represented in her kit. Unfortunately. That is also the exact same reason why I wouldn't want them on Skarma.
Karma was symbol of balance and enlightenment. Her actions were smooth and portrayed elegance. Skarma is bordering on war-monger. She claims peace and enlightenment, then creates exploding creators in the ground. The fans simply don't work with her current fantasy. She's not elegant. She's not graceful. She's not balanced. Though she is enLIGHTened. Literally. She at least she doesn't have to worry about encountering a Grue. That's something. I guess.
IxtaliKing1 votesKarma felt a lot more enlightened when she had options in her kit, rather than the binary play style she has now. She doesn't deliver on enlightenment, doesn't show her twin dragon theme at all, and her duality is gone completely with her damage components for RW and RE. Karma's current theme is back line "leader" with green magic. So much wasted potential.
SilverSquid4 votesI do NOT think it's a good idea to add fans to Karma's model, just for the sake of it. Either she should have them AND use them in her kit, or not have them at all.
I think it would be best to take the fans away from Karma entirely and create a new fighter champion, that actually uses them to deflect stuff. This would please the fans of Karma's fans.
To please the fans of Karma (confused already :P?), I would suggest to give her the power to control the twin dragons from her crest, as can be seen in her concept art. There is a lot of cool stuff you can do for her to play around with "balance", when it comes to twin dragons.
TNHA Baritone5 votesThis would please the fans of Karma's fans.
I only like the fans because they belonged to Karma.
SilverSquid3 votesKarma having fans but not using them is not only confusing, but prevents future champions from using them.
Them lying around in Karma's old splashes and her half-assed Shen dance is a pity, because fanweapons could be a really cool thing. I just want them to progress in any way.
TNHA Baritone2 votesYeah but why can't Riot fix her and incorporate the whole twin dragons theme from her Decorum?
It would be easier than a new champ
SilverSquid1 votesDepends on what you mean with "fix her"? After thinking up multiple reworks, I can tell you, it's pretty hard making a champion about two very different things at the same time, without watering one down. I currently don't see a way of giving her both the fans and the dragons and make her work.
A new champion using fan-type weapons might be easier, actually.
IcyPepper1 votesbut prevents future champions from using them.
I don't think there's a one-champion limit for a weapon type, you know. Otherwise all those poor champions that hit things with their fists...
Plus a melee fan user and a ranged fan user would be completely different.
SilverSquid1 votesDepends on how exotic the weapon is. Every champion has kind of "his" thing. Lux has lightmagic, Heimer has turrets, Thresh has chains and Sivir has her richochet thingy.
It probably doesn't make a lot of sense to make another "mechanic" champion that's about turrets or another fencing champion, like Fiora. Similarly, it's very hard to have two champions about the same thing (fire, with Annie and Brand), without taking away from each other. Fortunately, Annie has Tibbers, so she doesn't solely depend on fire for her identity. You could also take Zilean and Ekko to have two champions using similar mechanics, but fortunately, you can do more than enough stuff with time, to not make them bump into each other too much.
Spears and swords are very common on many champions, because they don't make up a lot of a champions identity and can be used in versatile ways (compare Xin, Nida and Kalista).
However, exotic weapons usually aren't as versatile and can usually only do very specific things. They will very likely take up so much of a champions kit, to make the champion feel like using the weapon, that it would also make up a huge part of the identity and can't be put on another champion, without crippling the character of either.
I only know fanweapons as deceptive and deflective melee weapons, and any attempt of putting them on a champion would probably revolve around that. I can't think of a way to make them work on a ranged champion.
Azteryz1 voteshaving an accessory doesnt entitle the accessory to be a core part of a champion
take for example that goofy skull shoulder plate old sion had
or recently taric and his crystal out of every corner armor sure he is about gems but at the time it never shows him using the crystals which made new players (and some old) just think he was a guy obsessed with gems
karma having fans does not and never was a core part of karma besides the one time she uses it from her q
now imagine this
make a champion whose designed weapon IS her fans
a melee badass female champion who is more physical in terms of her fighting style than karma who is more magics and swoosh THIRIRIR
think Kitana from mortal kombat
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/WM_o-n70K5k/maxresdefault.jpg
there are a lot of champions in this game BUT there are still many weapon types that arent being utilized
like the slash whip, nunchucks and karma having fans just for a small part of her is not only redundant but a huge potential waste of what a new champion could be utilizing with them
im a huge fan of karma
but in all honesty the rework they gave her (although not perfect and still needs some slight tuning) gave her a proper identity in terms of gameplay which made more sense to her past and background in Ionia
-just a friendly opinion
Mhihnj2 votesfans of fans
VentusDragoon2 votesHer dance does technically still include them in all skins except the classic skin.
SilverSquid2 votesFirst of all, her classic skin DOES use them in the dance. Secondly, there is a huge difference between using fans in a dance animation, and using them as weapons in a kit. Azteryz explains this difference quite nicely.
VentusDragoon2 votesI meant her NEW classic, not traditional. And I was just stating it saying that they are already in most of her models, unfortunately though not in her kit, as known.
SilverSquid1 votesAh, I see. Sorry for the missunderstanding. Yeah, they'd have to adapt her kit for that. But as tank Karma is getting some decent attention, and not exactly as a healthy thing, I am still hoping.
Sassmast3r3 votesOh please I beg you to get this to happen, that stupid dance of hers that looks strange regardless of whether or not there are fans there is just atrocious. I want her to use them as weapons, or they need to fucking get rid of them in the splash art. I don't need the reminder of what once was perfectly fine.
TNHA Baritone2 votesAMEN
Lady Donatella1 votesHallejauh! PRAISE DA LOORRRRRDDD!
Sukishoo2 votesShe uses them in all her models... do the dance.
TNHA Baritone3 votes....
I just want to slap the shit out of people who say that
Do you think I care to watch her rushed, unoriginal shitty dance? Fans are for combat not dancing. She doesn't use them in Warden Karma also..
Leetri2 votesWell technically fans ARE for dancing (but primarily for cooling), fans have never been used as real weapons. Japanese War Fans were used for signaling commands, like how some countries used musical instruments or flags.
Sukishoo1 votesYup yup. Fans are never meant for combat. They are for dancing and cooling :)
Xela Syab1 votesi miss being a fan of Karma. I think her old kit would've worked great since they gave supports ap options.
IxtaliKing1 votesRiot should just make a new champion with Fans to be honest. I think they'd be better off fully committing to her twin dragon theme.
TNHA Baritone1 votesThey're not gonna do either of the ideas (cause Rito)
But the reason why I oppose a new champ so bad is that it is unfair to sorta steal what people want for one champ and take it for another. I mean, what if I purchased all the skins for Karma (that is true), dedicated to her (this is true), my name matches her (that is true), and then the release a new champion that is what Karma could have been...I'd be mad..
IxtaliKing1 votesWell as far as Karma players are concerned (particularly old Karma players), Riot doesn't care what we want or how we feel. Some might think it's "hyperbolic" for me to say that, but actions speak louder than words; and they've proven with their actions they don't care how old Karma players feel.
skyfall6191 votestraditional karma has fans
