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File This Under Shady Things That Happen Prior To Massive Cheating....

Troll Armada··1 votes·1,101 views

A player didn't accept the AFK check. Your group was returned to matchmaking. A player didn't accept the AFK check. Your group was returned to matchmaking. A player didn't accept the AFK check. Your group was returned to matchmaking. A player didn't accept the AFK check. Your group was returned to matchmaking. A player didn't accept the AFK check. Your group was returned to matchmaking. A player didn't accept the AFK check. Your group was returned to matchmaking. You are now in a chat room with your full champion select team.

We've all had those moments while queuing for a match.

We forget we are even waiting and do something else to distract ourselves, and end up missing the AFK check.

One occasion, I even accidentally failed so many AFK checks so many times that the client told me that I was declining too many AFK checks, and if I declined any more there would be some sort of consequences. (forgot what the msg actually threatened me with it was so long ago)

So, yes, this does happen from just people being people...

.....but here is where the logical reasoning skillz come in, when this consistently happens over and over again, and is not a super rare occurrence as has been happening as of late.....GIRL PLEASE!

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14 Comments

FioraWillCarry2 votes

[{quoted}](name=Troll Armada,realm=NA,application-id=cIfEodbz,discussion-id=eULOvhOk,comment-id=,timestamp=2016-09-19T08:30:20.075+0000)

We forget we are even waiting and do something else to distract ourselves, and end up missing the AFK check.

There is a bug that does not bring the client to the front when you get matched. It happens about 40% of the time when you have your Browser or something in front and the game client is behind. I suspect this is how the majority of people don't click "ready". It can also happen in champ select when you have to ban/lock in.

I've found a workaround by minimizing the client. It will pop to the front 100% of the time when minimized.

Troll Armada1 votes

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There is a bug that does not bring the client to the front when you get matched. It happens about 40% of the time when you have your Browser or something in front and the game client is behind. I suspect this is how the majority of people don't click "ready". It can also happen in champ select when you have to ban/lock in.

I've found a workaround by minimizing the client. It will pop to the front 100% of the time when minimized.

uh.... repeatedly? And often prior to obvious troll games? doubtful.

where is this 40% from?

FioraWillCarry1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Troll Armada,realm=NA,application-id=cIfEodbz,discussion-id=eULOvhOk,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2016-09-19T13:06:41.788+0000)

where is this 40% from?

The 40% comes from my own experience. I had a habit of simply placing my browser in front of the client without minimizing so I can read stuff while waiting for a game. Many times I'd miss the alert because the client did not pop up in front.

uh.... repeatedly? And often prior to obvious troll games? doubtful.

If you're suggesting that other players are doing this to you, you are sorely mistaken. For one thing I am a programmer that understands a great deal of in depth stuff about how the Windows operating system works. It's unlikely that many people here would understand window messages, process isolation, concepts like active windows and all that so I won't go into all that. Take my word for it. Another player you're connecting to cannot control whether your client pops in front or not unless they are able to abuse a bug within the client itself and given that I know what conditions need to be met for such a thing to occur, I'd say it's extremely unlikely.

The only other way, is for the player to trick you into installing some piece of software that does this but if they actually get you to put malicious software on your PC, I can think of a billion more interesting things to do than suppressing your League client's alert system.

Troll Armada1 votes

If you're suggesting that other players are doing this to you, you are sorely mistaken. For one thing I am a programmer that understands a great deal of in depth stuff about how the Windows operating system works.

Ah yes, the intentional 'misunderstanding' of something extremely simple. Well mister professor of Windows studies...

Yes, I'm not only suggesting it, but strongly implying it. No, I'm not going to elaborate.

unlikely that many people here would understand window messages, process isolation, concepts like active windows and all that so I won\t go into all that.

No, that's true, but again, simple logic.

**Also. **

you do bring up a good point here, although not the one you intended to obfuscate the truth with...

Yes, I would expect that given the extensive amount of applications Riot gets, there are more than a few such brilliant people working for Riot.

Therefore it is NOT ONLY a question of such program existing, given the extensive amount of no-life sexless angry nerds playing leaugue, but that Riot is most likely aware of the issues and has chosen to play stupid, for whatever reason.

And there are many common organizational issues which could account for this

  • BEING OVERWHELMED BY MULTIPLE, INTENSE PRESSURES

  • INSTITUTIONAL CONFORMITY/FEAR OF CAREER LIMITING MOVES

  • GROUP-THINK

  • REACTIONARY MIND-SETS

  • COGNITIVE OVERLOAD AND DISSONANCE

Take my word for it. Another player you're connecting to cannot control whether your client pops in front or not unless they are able to abuse a bug within the client itself and given that I know what conditions need to be met for such a thing to occur, I'd say it's extremely unlikely.

No.

The only other way, is for the player to trick you into installing some piece of software that does this but if they actually get you to put malicious software on your PC, I can think of a billion more interesting things to do than suppressing your League client's alert system.

No, NOT the only way.

what conditions need to be met for such a thing to occur,

As I mentioned. given the extensive population of obsessive angry nerds playing league, as well as, again pure cold logic, and a good disassembler, these conditions can be deduced and/or even brute forced through trial and error, if the programmers are just mediocre and lazy.

As a matter of fact, the evidence of such endeavors can be seen all over reddit and these forums, through certain targeted questions pertaining to the matchmaking process, etc...

FioraWillCarry1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Troll Armada,realm=NA,application-id=cIfEodbz,discussion-id=eULOvhOk,comment-id=0001000000000000,timestamp=2016-09-19T17:22:56.353+0000)

Ah yes, the intentional 'misunderstanding' of something extremely simple. Well mister professor of Windows studies...

Yes, I'm not only suggesting it, but strongly implying it. No, I'm not going to elaborate.

No, that's true, but again, simple logic.

**Also. **

you do bring up a good point here, although not the one you intended to obfuscate the truth with...

Yes, I would expect that given the extensive amount of applications Riot gets, there are more than a few such brilliant people working for Riot.

Therefore it is NOT ONLY a question of such program existing, given the extensive amount of no-life sexless angry nerds playing leaugue, but that Riot is most likely aware of the issues and has chosen to play stupid, for whatever reason.

And there are many common organizational issues which could account for this

  • BEING OVERWHELMED BY MULTIPLE, INTENSE PRESSURES

  • INSTITUTIONAL CONFORMITY/FEAR OF CAREER LIMITING MOVES

  • GROUP-THINK

  • REACTIONARY MIND-SETS

  • COGNITIVE OVERLOAD AND DISSONANCE

No.

No, NOT the only way.

As I mentioned. given the extensive population of obsessive angry nerds playing league, as well as, again pure cold logic, and a good disassembler, these conditions can be deduced and/or even brute forced through trial and error, if the programmers are just mediocre and lazy.

As a matter of fact, the evidence of such endeavors can be seen all over reddit and these forums, through certain targeted questions pertaining to the matchmaking process, etc...

Apologies. I assumed you to be of reasonable intelligence. Won't make that mistake again.

Troll Armada1 votes

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Apologies. I assumed you to be of reasonable intelligence. Won't make that mistake again.

oh?

....because I knew you were a disinfo troll when you first responded.

FioraWillCarry1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Troll Armada,realm=NA,application-id=cIfEodbz,discussion-id=eULOvhOk,comment-id=000100000000000000000000,timestamp=2016-09-20T04:25:17.467+0000)

oh?

....because I knew you were a disinfo troll when you first responded.

Ok. Whatever makes you happy.

ShurimasDawn781 votes

So whats the deal are you going to finish your whole theory here or leave it open ended so someone can finish it for you then run to your YouTube channel and make a video about how you figured this all out?

Troll Armada1 votes

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So whats the deal are you going to finish your whole theory here or leave it open ended so someone can finish it for you then run to your YouTube channel and make a video about how you figured this all out?

It's just simple logic really.

I have absolutely no interest in 'figuring out' how it's done.

I look at buggy third world code enough as it is...

ShurimasDawn781 votes

So just made a post to take up space and do nothing with? Chunk of the reason the game has gone to shit since s3.

Troll Armada1 votes

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So just made a post to take up space and do nothing with? Chunk of the reason the game has gone to shit since s3.

It's funny, as a gullible little kid, I never really thought about how easy it was to manipulate me. As an adult, I try to impart this wisdom into the next generation.

Now when people see the outward signs of gerry rigged matches through various exploits they will learn to dodge, and avoid 20-60 minutes of douchebaggery,

ShurimasDawn781 votes

So please elaborate do you think it's a type cheat ppl are exploiting or just a system bug.

Troll Armada1 votes

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So please elaborate do you think it's a type cheat ppl are exploiting or just a system bug.

A cheat. Why would a 'system bug' behave intelligently to place you into no-win teams, and dodge you out if the enemy team comp has too high a chance of wining? That would be some 'bug'

It's clearly some form of automated software, whereby you feed in a bunch of your accounts/passwords, it queues you in and probably auto dodges for you based on match histories, who knows.

ShurimasDawn781 votes

Rounds plausible honestly. Kinda like riot saying all the lag and ping/fps spikes and drops after patch 6.18 is our internet issues. Not there patch or servers nothing of their doing like say to get ppl to download the hex tech help tool

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