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[Feature Request] Never Give In

Rubitonabuilding··3 votes·611 views

So yesterday I played a game where our Talon literally gave up in champ select. at 20 minutes, and every 5 minutes (or whatever the interval is) thereafter, he tried to surrender. I'm sure many of you have experienced the frustration of a teammate who won't stop trying to surrender, no matter how well you're doing.

Maybe it's just me but on principal, unless it's superbly obvious we don't have a chance to win (3v5, 78 kills to 14, etc) I hate to surrender. And it gets annoying and distracting when the surrender option pops up every 5 minutes.

I'd like to propose that Riot implement a "Never Give In" option for players who pretty much never surrender. By toggling this choice in the options, it automatically votes no for you when a surrender vote comes up, without interrupting your game with that annoying little window. You can turn it off or on any time you want, so you're not locked-in to never surrendering.

Just a suggestion that would improve the game a bit IMO.

14 Comments

Sir ArmaMalum3 votes

The only problem with this is when people are not having fun anymore and a surrender is a good option. Yes I too get very annoyed by the people who go "/ff ffs, nub" at first blood and they need to grow up and try but there are also times when a game is truly lost and everyone would be happier to end it sooner. If someone forgets they have "auto-no" enabled (which imho would be a lot of people) then another 5 minutes of t-bagging and dancing can be had by the winning team and no one is having fun.

Now if you suggested something like limited amounts of surrenders, like 2 per person, so someone would actually have to think about popping the vote instead of spamming it I would be more inclined to agree with that.

MackleDoge2 votes

Why should I have to sit there and vote no every 5 minutes because one person isn't having fun? Why should the other 9 people in the lobby have to have their game cut short because one person is a poor sport and can't manage to have fun while losing?

I shouldn't. We shouldn't. They should have to get over themselves and realize that everyone else wants to keep playing.

I do agree this shouldn't be set to an options menu feature in the manner it is described. It would most likely be better set so that if you vote no the first time, it will keep it no if you have the setting turned on, unless you start the vote or turn the setting off temporarily. Let's be honest, you're probably dead for a good amount of time if your team is surrendering anyways so you have time to go into the options menu to change it.

Sir ArmaMalum1 votes

Yeah that could work and I agree it's annoying as hell, nowhere in my comment did I say it wasn't :P. And yeah my example wasn't the best it was just the point of keeping in mind the other side of the spectrum of when voting no when everyone else wants to quit is actually the offender instead of vice versa, devil's advocate of you will

MackleDoge2 votes

Yea I understand, and that's always something that is needed in conversation when it concerns overarching features like this one does.

Kira Onime2 votes

I used to hate surrendering as well, but then I learned to realize when the game is lost.

There is no point in dragging on a game just because your personal ego is getting in the way.

Tulare2 votes

Simple: Winning is one of the goals of playing but it isn't the purpose. My purpose is to have fun. It is possible for me to achieve my purpose despite failing in the goal of winning.

Icethorne2 votes

The reasons why I wouldn't want a 'Never Give In' option:

  1. You will have to remember to turn it off before a game that you may surrender if things go bad since it automatically votes no. Honestly it is a waste of code.

  2. You could fix this issue with a longer wait period between surrender votes like 10 or more minutes usually the game will be over by that point.

  3. I do believe but may be wrong, if you don't click 'yes' or 'no' it automatically registers as a 'no' vote anyways.

Rubitonabuilding2 votes

  1. It can be turned off any time, not just between games. So if you're clearly losing, you can just go in the options and turn it off

  2. Good idea.

  3. The issue for me is not whether or not I click something, it's the window getting in the way of my fights.

Icethorne1 votes

I agree there are quick shortcuts at well.. at least there should be like F1 for yes F2 for no a quick key stroke... But honestly there is not much you can do in the middle of a fight if you happen to need that little corner of the screen the window will show up and interrupt your fight either way which sucks.

Fierce Charge1 votes

Not a bad idea imo, after all, Riot caters to those who wish to have the option to surrender, why not give something to the brave ones who decline when they have the fire to push for a win against the odds. To keep things balanced however, I think that if a surrender has been requested by the same player, or at least enough times overall, then there should be an override so that trollers who want to watch a team suffer do not have all the power. Basically a fail safe mechanic that allows the team majority to overrule a player's Never Give In status. But make it a large number so it is less appealing to troll and force players to surrender and accept a defeat too easily.item 3060

Kira Onime1 votes

So cater to the one or two players that wish to continue for personal ego reasons?

I really don,t understand the point of dragging on a game just to feel good about it. When you lost, you lost, continuing the game in hopes of that 1/100 chance you get a lucky break is just not worth it.

Rubitonabuilding2 votes

It's not about trying to win against stupid odds. I know when I'm beat. But when people try to surrender just cause they don't want to play anymore, or because they're not carrying like they think they should, or any number of reasons that don't involve being beat, it gets annoying.

Kira Onime1 votes

And that's when you realize the game is lost and dragging it out is only aggravating the situation for your own personal ego.

If 3 people on your team have already given up, end it, you're doing no favor in dragging it on.

MackleDoge1 votes

Who said it's three people? I say it's one person. See I can make up a situation to suit my argument while ignoring all the other opportunities too, it's fun right? The irony of the cause being personal ego as your argument is top notch. 10/10. Would immediately disregard again.

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