Can we stop posting these kinds of threads? If you honestly care more about the female power, racial diversity, or sexuality of characters more than having fun in the game, why are you even here?
Canidae92 votesI honestly thought this was gonna be a fill-in-the-blank thread...
I hope the next champion looks like Poppin' Fresh and has an omnipresent sexuality.
kusagari772 votesPoppin' Fresh where did you get that from xD
Canidae3 votesIt's the name of the Pillsbury Doughboy if anyone was wondering.
Mecha MaIphite37 votesomnipresent sexuality.
https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/449993273730289664/XOLlk7S1.jpeg
There's nowhere to hide. Just lube yourself up and pray.
Nekolie44 votesI think more diversity and archetypes leads to more exciting and unique champion design. I've seen plenty of generic fantasy babes and towering meat men. What I don't see are little explored concepts like a flirty male seducer incubus type champions, masculine female warriors who look like badasses and could beat the crap out of you, old cackling witches, etc.
Starfish H1 votes[deleted]
I am PewdiePie11 votesI was going to post something serious but then you made me have to look at a naked man with a mullet.
But anyways, ugh people make me mad. Sure as a customer you have the right to suggest what you want because in the end you're what keeps the business going. But don't bully artists into making things that don't make them happy to make. They're the ones who obviously deserved the job, they should be trusted to make something good. That's why they're the artist and you're not. People continually focusing on making sure we have a wide variety of human beings really just further reinforces stereotyping because you're making damn sure we have all the stereotypes.
JUST LEAVE THE ARTISTS ALONE flails arms
ReQnosis10 votesOn a bit of a sidenote about "bullying game devs".
SJW's (Feminists) have caused so much of an uproar via political correctness, attacking (shaming) anyone that doesn't toe-the-line. That DOA developers decided it's not going to bring the newest release to the USA, even though they sell more copies here (of previous title releases) than they do locally.
News with NSFW Footage. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqvGEdoz2s4
News with SFW Footage. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFvVOg0Y6eA
I am PewdiePie4 votes[{quoted}](name=The Shadow Facts,realm=NA,application-id=cIfEodbz,discussion-id=cPTbZa6x,comment-id=0005000000000000,timestamp=2015-11-29T22:00:39.177+0000)
On a bit of a sidenote about "bullying game devs".
SJW's (Feminists) have caused so much of an uproar via political correctness, attacking (shaming) anyone that doesn't toe-the-line. That DOA developers decided it's not going to bring the newest release to the USA, even though they sell more copies here (of previous title releases) than they do locally.
News with NSFW Footage. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqvGEdoz2s4
News with SFW Footage. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFvVOg0Y6eA
Yeah I saw that. I see their side of things, but they're wrong. Kind of like how peta wants things for the better but they're wrong.
I agree that the game is offencive. But it's not THE ONLY offencive thing on this planet. And we don't only do offencive things to women (I actually was talking about this with a friend a few days ago). And it's not just video games. It's all media. We have a select few different character types that can be taken seriously, and all others are saved for comedy. A ridiculously over the top macho guy is deemed a completely serious and realistic video game character, a ridiculously over the top bimbo is considered just as serious. A nerdy fat guy is always the clown of the group who turns people putting him down into the main jokes and a big ass lady ready to whop your ass is some butch lesbian to be gawked at.
For EVERYTHING in EVERY type of media, anything outside "the norm" is used as bad humor as if it was a low budget film featuring Adam Sandler.
So it's not an attack against women. It's not an attack against anyone. It's a lack of creativity. And it's not this developer's fault so don't put the blame on them like it is.
So instead of making our selection even smaller by blocking out stuff like this, why not support everything so you can choose to ignore what you don't like and get what you do?
TLDR: people need to stop caring about every little fucking thing
ReQnosis3 votesIndeed, sadly these days.. everyone wants to be "offended" (achieve victim status), so they can force other people to do things for them.
What they don't realize or simply wont admit, is that being offended, isn't a valid argument or justification for censorship.
https://youtu.be/fHMoDt3nSHs?t=3m40s #Skip to 3:40, to see set.
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A bit of a follow up on the story: Play-Asia (online storefront for importing games) posted this (below) and was subsequently "boycotted" by SJW's.
B1naryB0t5 votesIt's like he's the embodiment of a youtube comment. Angry, self-righteous, and unable to argue without using rhetoric. Not to say he's wrong, but I would never wanna hang out with that guy.
Zyaph11 votesI think more diversity and archetypes leads to more exciting and unique champion design. I've seen plenty of generic fantasy babes and towering meat men. What I don't see are little explored concepts like sexy male seducer incubus type champions, masculine female warriors who look like badasses, etc.
You mean like Illaoi, Leona, Poppy, Sejuali(post rework), and Vi? :>
Though I agree on the male counterpart. The only "sexy-male-incubus" type I could think of is possibly Varus. (and he doesn't have any pants! O: )
Ryzing2Diamond2 votesVi is sexualised. She's just a tomboy.
Same could be said for Sejuani.
Leona is meant to be pretty-- it's basically in her concept.
I'll give you Illaoi though, she's not very sexualised. Neither is Poppy. So 2 points to you.
KING OF MASKS14 votesHow do you define sexualized? What about Vi/Sej/Leo is sexualized?
Mecha MaIphite19 votesmaybe he has a thing for boars
Westonbirt3 votesLet's see... she doesn't show any skin, she's not posing in particularly sexual ways, she doesn't have any risqué lines or demeanors...
Seriously, what the fuck.
KING OF MASKS22 votes
Borbland4 votesOutrageous.
Truly.
Du Ma Mi6 votesNekolie4 votesIllaoi is really the first female warrior who isn't made to be conventionally attractive and actually has arms befitting of someone who is a fierce brawler. I actually like that and think we should explore it more. I'd also like to see an older witch type champion. As for male seducer, I mean an actual flirty character. Give me an Ahri type who is a male. One who oozes flirty dialogue and has a charm. Things like that. How about a flamboyant male bard character? That would be interesting.
Westonbirt2 votesIf and when they update Vladimir I hope they give him a more suave identity. I think it'd really fit the character.
Boulderox3 votesyes i agree in the terms of character builds, and physical appearance... but why do they have to have defined sexuality to define them...
is an on the fence champ, where it is left to the player to decide, because she does not represent one side or the other in her speech or actions...
I really dislike it when people think they need a champ that defines there ideals in a video game >_>
really bums me out a as a game art student when this occurs, because games are being stifled because they are not seen as "politically correct"
Spoiler maybe?
Example:CERTAIN people are pissed at fallout 4 because you are forced into a heterosexual relationship at the start of the game... WHY is that a problem.... you can do what you want after the start...
Limitanei20 votesBecause crazy feminists.
Anita Sarkeesian has been leading the charge for assorted shit such as "female videogame characters that aren't in any way, shape or form sexualized", but when Nintendo comes out with Linkle, her first response is "Not good enough".
ReQnosis9 votesFeminists only aim, is to complain. This is why it's next to impossible to get them to describe their "ideal" character traits, in a consistent fashion. (If they did, then they wouldn't be able to complain when people actually made a character to meet their standards).
IE: Illaoi isn't unique or special, because she's just another "Strong Male Character with boobs".
Their whole concept of "diversity" (challenging the status-quo) is bogus, tbh.
Not only are they inconsistent, but they also don't even play the games they complain/pretend to care about.
IE: When Anita finally did "sponsor" a game, for making a female character correctly, it had ZERO effect on the sales of said game (proving her followers either don't play games, or don't really care about "diversity"/"proper female characters").
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6NWpC-CMz8I
also see:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6flKG51iWw
If you wanna see what happens when feminists "challenge the status-quo":
https://youtu.be/RxYyC-Lag9E?t=11m58s
#Skip to 11:50
"Spoiler: Her boyfriend is a blond haired, model, with a perfect body".
*It's not sexist or stereotypical, when feminists do it.
Auryiel18 votesThat's very easy to say when you have a very wide variety of characters for you to identity to. Just because minority groups wish to be more represented in different medias (and yes, video games are a form of media) doesn't mean that's all they care about. Honestly your post is very misguided. You are presenting wanting to have characters you can identity to and caring about how fun the game is as opposites, but that's not the reality. They're not in competition, they're different things entirely.
I wouldn't expect someone who doesn't have to deal with this issue to understand, though. Well, not at first anyway. But I would invite you to try and put yourself in the place of people who barely ever see someone like them in the media. Or when they do see such a character it's always the token black guy or the sassy gay friend. Maybe you can't really imagine living your life being hated by some just for being who you are and being reminded of such bias by the media who pander to the majority and don't wan't to upset racists and homophobes or challenge the sexism women still suffer from to this day. Or maybe you just don't want to, but I think it's probably the former. The media help to forge what our perception of reality is and it is disheartening to see that some groups are largely ignored or misrepresented. It affects people who are part of those groups in several ways. It affects how they are treated in their everyday life by others, but it also affects how they perceive themselves. This is especially true if you are struggling with your identity.
Btw I'm not trying to say that being a woman, or gay or well basically not being a straight white male is an awful experience. It is getting better, but not by itself. It gets better as people become more educated on the issues that others face in today's society, so that's just what I'm trying to do here. I know this isn't a very detailed post, but I still hope you'll stop and actually think about this. Asking for more diverse and accurate representation of non-dominant groups in the media isn't just some silly little request that should be laughed at. It's a serious issue. Just because it doesn't affect you directly doesn't make it less of an issue and just because some groups are claiming their rightful place in society doesn't mean you're losing anything that **does **belong to you.
AbrahamBaconham4 votesThank you.
Starfish H16 votesBut I hope the next champion looks like a female who won't be sexualized in anyway but if you make her ugly you are a misogynistc filthy man pig and has an Akio-Autochoris-Cete-Quoisexuality. I hwve no idea what sexuality I have created. I just pulled this stuff straight from Tumblr.
DoctorWolf182 votesYou do know the rule that one rule....34 if it exists there will be porn of it. Just like if you ever owned one of those kid loreal shampoos yep porn of it.
Rozzeta16 votesTruth be told, yours is the first post on this issue I have seen in months.
Also, why the hell do you care about what other people want. What are you? The police?
Zantumall13 votesYou know it's possible to care about the diversity of characters in the game and care about having fun, right? I'd love to see more diversity in League's character cast, but that doesn't lock me out of caring about the gameplay or balance or whatever. Just because somebody makes a thread hoping for a champion with less-explored physical/sexual/whatever characteristics doesn't mean they don't care about the game as a game too.
Wyrmblade12 votesI don't think you should ever make a character specifically to fill in as a token, they never end up having much depth. A character isn't defined by what they are, just make a cool character and if it just organically feels like it's something, then it is. I think Lucian is a pretty good example, his whole look wouldn't really be coherent if he was from Ionia or something.
What I'm saying is that the best solution to this kind of shit is to not worry about it at all and let people make whatever the fuck they want to make.
Eric Senpai7 votesI agree. People were whining about the lack of women of color and diverse body types, and all we got was Illaoi, a shallow token of a character. No wait, she was bad ass, and exactly what people were asking for.
Szunray3 votesYeah and when the league was in such uproar about not having a black character, and Riot gave us that empty, token character called Lucian. It's like all of his dialogue and story centered around being black and how black he was /sarcasm
Sammystorm9 votesI think you missed the point of a lot of the threads. Most people that post those types of threads care more about diversity in the art not specifically feminism.
Also you can enjoy a game and still try to hold it to values you hold. Trying to separate them like you just did is pretty silly.
RowanEnd8 votestbh riot has done a great job at having diverse champions, people just want to make sure that the diversity is kept, to a degree,
like, imagine if every champ was white and had the bodies of 
/ 
. Thats boring as hell.
Not that theres anything wrong with having attractive white champions, but like, diversity.
Azteryz5 votes[deleted]
Penta Penguin21 votesWhen you can't relate to people / characters because of their skin color, I think that's called racism
junglerboy169 votesNot necessarily...
Racism doesn't mean you can't relate to someone, it means you think that their race or skin color affects who they are on a fundamentally unchangeable level. For example, if I said "All White men are more inteligent than all black men" you could tell instantly that that's racism, and that kind of behavior is unacceptable. If I said "all african american men are better at basketball than white men" that would also be racism, regardless of how true or not true it is, because it ascribes a faulty cause to that fact. Saying you can't relate to someone of a different race is just a statement of fact, and not based on a certain race being superior to any other race. Racism is a terrible, terrible thing. Acknowledging that people are different and that sometimes you just can't relate to other races for whatever reason is not racism, it is just a person accepting that they are different enough that they don't understand each other or connect on a deeper level.
For example: just because I can't relate to Ekko because I'm a white guy and don't get his style or humor doesn't mean I'm racist, it means I don't get black guy style. I still have friends who are black and I'm definitely not a racist, but I still don't relate to him much, while I do relate to champs like 
because I'm a big tall white guy and it is easy to imagine myself in his shoes (again, this is just an arbitrary example, I don't see myself as some big oaf with a sword).
That said: You can relate to someone for many reasons beyond their skin color, body shape, or gender. I can relate to the new Poppy because she quirky and a little bit out of her element with other people. She also happens to be a blue skinned midget woman, which I most definitely am not. I can relate to Darius because I am precise and calculated, but I am definitely not an axe wielding general with a thirst for blood.
Trelania5 votesI want an androgynous looking male. Incubus, as someone mentioned before, would be an approach I haven't seen before. Sexuality doesn't matter.
Mr Borg9 votesI want an androgynous looking male.
Ezreal is pretty clearly a play on a combination of anime-style androgyny and stereotypical anime hero.
Baron of Bread3 votesI thought they wanted an androgynous male though...
Kappa
Szunray5 votesThese threads are always such bullshit.
How come if someone says "Man I want another robot!" Or "I hope we see another of whatever 
is" then it's totally cool, but if someone says "League could use a huge ripped black guy" then I'm an SJW on a crusade against fun?
Diversity seems to be a good thing unless it's diversity in types of human characters. And yeah, say what you want but being represented in a game makes that game more fun. It just does. I don't even LIKE mages, but when 
came out I could hardly stop playing him, because he was like me.
Señor Karthus3 votesPlaying the game OR asking for better designs and accurate diversity in the game? People like you always forget that both are not mutually exclusive.
Veraska3 votesLike I get what your saying and that's fair and all, but it's totally valid to wanna see more representation of race and orientation and it can be a really important part of a person's experience with the game.
Like plenty of people can play this game with the characters being nothing but mechanics, they're here for the gane without narrative, without story, without immersion, so having trans or poc folk in the game shouldn't matter to them, they're still just you know, a set of abilities to play as.
But then there's players like me who need immersion, and to be able see a bit of themselves in there character, like yasuo is an extremely fun champion but I don't think I personally could play him if he had rivens model, it'd break immersion.
So since I can get my immersion experience why not everyone else? It shouldn't really affect anyone who only cares about the gameplay.
And league is crazy exspansive, you can't tell me that in a world with ancient shuriman gods, giant kraken deities, and over world aliens, that there aren't humanoids that reject the gender spectrum.
People interpret fun in different ways, and we all wanna have fun, having more diversity only adds to that ^^
CasterGilgamesh1 votesi have fanfiction for the sexuality part....and riot already has champions i love the look of 
