Zyra Base Mana unchanged

Aerothal·Nov 11, 2015·2 votes·225 views

NICE ONE, RIOT!!!

you just dont care about this champ , do you? you just never want to see her played mid anymore, yet you don't give her the tools to compete with other supports. Lux and brand are played as supports yet they get the base mana increase. Her "BUFF" how you called the bugfix with her plants did nothing to her. her pickrate is one of the lowest in the game. her winrate only stays above average because ONLY her die-hard mains are still playing her and even they cant do that most of the time (if they actually wanna win a game).

JUST REMOVE HER INSTEAD OF STUNTING HER WITH EVERY PATCH!!! THAT AT LEAST WOULD BE A CLEAR MESSAGE!

8 Comments

alasarcherNov 11, 20152 votes

Her mana regen got buffed.

AerothalNov 11, 20151 votes

yeah...lol and you think that makes up for the 50 base mana? do you play her? i mean more than once in a leap year?

alasarcherNov 11, 20152 votes

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yeah...lol and you think that makes up for the 50 base mana? do you play her? i mean more than once in a leap year?

Ye i do play her occasionally. Mostly as support. I dont like her mid because she is very easily ganked. But problem occurs when u spam abilities as maniac, instead of using her as utility champion. Seeds for vision E for CC. I know in low ELO people try to spam her abilities and thats why they got mana issues.

AerothalNov 11, 20151 votes

pulling the elo card while posting on a forum smurf. classy. now tell me this: why is she not played in high elo if she is viable? you sir, are full of it!

alasarcherNov 11, 20151 votes

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pulling the elo card while posting on a forum smurf. classy. now tell me this: why is she not played in high elo if she is viable? you sir, are full of it!

Because there are better supports, with less risk and more reward? Even tho she isnt picked very often she still has 56% win rate in master and 53% in diamond.

AerothalNov 11, 20151 votes

the winrates you refer to are winrates of zyra players who are so dedicated to her that they play her despite all her faults. those players make out the minimal percentage points indicated by her pick rate. If you know a champion inside out of course you will maintain a high winrate. i am saying that the winrates you are pointing out are skewed because thy represent winrates of zyra mains.

you are absolutely correct in saying that there are better supports with less risk and higher rewards. that's exactly my point. zyra is NOT picked by the general populous becuase she is hard to master, hard to win with, does not bring as much to the table as other supports yet the only buff she gets is a mana regen buff that all the better supports receive as well. her base mana remains at 334. all her other mediocre stats remain unchanged and now she cant even get mana pots anymore.

alasarcherNov 11, 20151 votes

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the winrates you refer to are winrates of zyra players who are so dedicated to her that they play her despite all her faults. those players make out the minimal percentage points indicated by her pick rate. If you know a champion inside out of course you will maintain a high winrate. i am saying that the winrates you are pointing out are skewed because thy represent winrates of zyra mains.

you are absolutely correct in saying that there are better supports with less risk and higher rewards. that's exactly my point. zyra is NOT picked by the general populous becuase she is hard to master, hard to win with, does not bring as much to the table as other supports yet the only buff she gets is a mana regen buff that all the better supports receive as well. her base mana remains at 334. all her other mediocre stats remain unchanged and now she cant even get mana pots anymore.

Dude all i said is that her mana regen was buffed in this patch after u said she was forgotten again. Zyra isnt only champion with low pick rate. Its just there are more fun champions than someone who put plants down.

A Miss FortuneNov 12, 20151 votes

Zyra has a very small base mana pool and it only takes 3 of her Qs to go oom I think the first few levels. For having almost no defensive stats, no mobility, one of the worst/worst passive in the game, all of her abilities having delays, and a trashy plant AI, you would think that at the very least they would make her mana reasonable. I'm sorry but using an ability 3 times within 5 seconds isn't spamming and her mana pool sucks. It's not as noticeable as support since a large part of Zyra Support is abusing her seeds for vision and zone control plus supports generally can buy mana items as soon as they enter the game, but that's not how it works with Zyra Mid.