Losing LP due to AFK in ranked is stupid. Here's a way to stop this.

Jungled··1 votes·4,275 views

[EDIT] Just to clarify how this would work.

Rationale

Players are constantly complaining about the unfair loss of League Points due to being disadvantaged during a match making ranked game through having one less player than the enemy team. By this I mean having an 'away from keyboard' player which is like losing a player to a red card in soccer. Having one less player than the other team obviously poses as a disadvantage for the team with less players. So I have come up with the following proposal. See below.

Proposal

Implement a system that restricts the loss of League Points for a team that has an AFK player.

How it works

If a player AFK's in a ranked match, his or her team will qualify for loss prevention. This loss prevention will be a reduced amount of League Points lost for the match. The player who AFK's will be penalised with a queue ban and will loss League Points up to the amount the entire team would lose.

Terms and Conditions for disadvantaged team

  • To qualify for a loss prevention a player must have been AFK for a minimum of 50% of the match.
  • If a player has AFK'd from a match they will receive a temporary queue ban (subject to frequency of AFK). This could be anywhere from a day queue ban to a potential permanent queue ban. This queue ban is aimed at combating players who abuse this loss prevention system.
  • Should the team qualify for loss prevention and the match results in a loss. The remaining players will not loss a proportion up to all League Points they would have lost. NOTE: The AFK player will not qualify for loss prevention and will lose up to all League Points the entire team would have lost as well as receive a queue ban.
  • Should the team qualify for loss prevention and the match results in a win. The remaining players will receive their regular League Points gain as well as a 10% bonus on top. NOTE: The AFK player will not receive any League Points and will lose up to all League Points the entire team would have lost as well as receive a queue ban.

Terms and Condition for advantaged team

  • The team that does not possess the AFK player will operate as normal. They will receive all League Points they would receive in a normal circumstance.
  • The team that does not possess the AFK player will operate as normal if they lose. They will not receive a harsher League Points loss should they lose to a disadvantaged team.

AFK Player Penalty

  • The AFK player will receive a queue ban depending on the number of offences. The initial queue ban for a first time offender would be up to a day. Upon receiving this queue ban a message that should accompany this ban would be something like:

"Dear Summoner,

You have recently AFK'd from your match made game and have therefore put your teammates at a disadvantage. We have decided to give you a temporary queue ban till (00/00/00 00:00) so that you can inspect the cause of your AFK and fix it so that you avoid doing the same in future games. You will also received a higher League Point penalty for your behaviour."

  • The AFK player will receive up to all League Points the entire team would have lost should the team loss.

Conclusion

This loss prevention is aimed at assisting players who face the potential effects of a AFK player on the team. The opposing team will operate as normal in regards to League Point gains and losses. This system has been designed to give harsher penalties to players that do AFK from a ranked match making game. This design is aimed at reducing the potential for players to abuse the system by AFKing deliberately.

16 Comments

Archon X2 votes

So does that mean the team that won with all 5 does not get any LP? If not gtfo with your stupid ass rank inflating idea and git gud

Matthias91191 votes

That. If you want to give "loss prevention" to one team you have to give "win prevention" to the other team or it breaks Ranked over time due to rating and LP inflation.

You could possibly do this for matches where a player was absent from the very beginning (DOTA2 effectively does this), but for things like ragequits or mid-match disconnects it's unfair to the team that was winning at that point to invalidate their win.

Caytheles2 votes

I don't see anywhere that the winning team would not earn League Points, please read carefully before you begin your Verbal abuse, it is very untasteful and is not what this person needs to see.

  1. is he playing your ranked games? no, so dont mind his skill if it is good or not.

  2. Are you not abit salty when you have an Afk on your team costing you the game?

Please rethink your Language, i will have to report this Comment. --Caytheles The Support Main

SmokedAlmonds1 votes

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I don't see anywhere that the winning team would not earn League Points

That's his point. Its not there. Everyone thinks its fine to get free LP but its so terrible to lose it.

There just isn't much reason to care about the loss. Individual games have very little impact on your rank. And AFKs happen on both sides.

Caytheles2 votes

My question is, why would he assume that Winner would get no LP. he simply Guessed that was what the OP meant but it wasnt. i know the system is alright as it is due to the 50/50% chance rule. but by no means does ARCHON X need to be such a brute about the subject. especially if he didnt read it right. But thank you for the Clarification my friend.

Archon X1 votes

hahahahhaha are you 12

you're supposed to be 13 or older to play this

Caytheles2 votes

I am a 19 yo Male, why would you like to go on a date?

Jokes aside, i will now have to report you as Verbal Abuse. it is not kind to belittle anothers Person. without knowing them in real life, i will ask again to please halt your childish remarks.

Archon X1 votes

can you stay the fuck on topic and stop trying to citizen moderate. The point is that these same stupid threads keep popping up and they all say that someone shouldn't lose LP if their teammate afk's but they never say the winning team shouldn't gain LP. Like other dude said who actually has a couple functioning connected synapses, this will lead to elo inflation and dilution of ranks.

Critical thinking bro try it sometime.

Caytheles2 votes

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hahahahhaha are you 12

you're supposed to be 13 or older to play this

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can you stay the fuck on topic

Very nice, Very nice. i understand that the System is perfectly fine as it is, i just dont understand your poopy behavior towards a simple Rant/Suggestion. it is people like you who make these boards childish. anyway, i am done here. Enjoy the reports.

Archon X1 votes

hahahha poopy behavior hahaha omg I can't breathe

brah I've been playing in chess tournaments for years I got signatures from Ruth Haring and Bill Goichberg on my chessboard. I understand what Elo is and why it is important for it not to experience artificial inflation.

you're probably a socialist who thinks Obama should give away more money to the useless poor because then everyone will be rich

doesn't work like that bro just look up examples of hyperinflation in 1980s Bolivia, modern Zimbabwe, 1920s Germany...

Caytheles2 votes

Tl;dr

Jungled2 votes

The ToS doesn't actually restrict players under the age of 13 from playing League of Legends. Whilst Riot does not recommend or support players under such age from playing this game they do not and cannot in the future restrict players under said age from playing.

Jungled2 votes

The opposing team to the team with the AFK player will operate as normal in regards to League Point gains and losses.

I have edited the original thread to provide more clarity on the system I have in mind. I apologise for not being more thorough and for your "stupid ass".

Archon X1 votes

thanks for clarifying

your idea is completely stupid

a team with an afk has 4 people lose no LP

winning team gets full LP

so 5 get LP, 1 loses LP

hmmmmmmmmmm do I really need to dissect why that's a bad idea? I mean do you have no understanding of economics at all?

I blame Obama's free gifts to people for voting for him, got American children feeling entitled to receiving trophies for participation with no risk if they can't git gud.

Damaged Knives1 votes

seems legit, rito doesnt listen to us

Caytheles1 votes

The reason this isnt put into Action is because people will abuse it. Soon it will become habit that the losing team will choose One teammate to Leave the game and or Someone will take it for the team, then Players who deserve to actually lose will not get penaled for it and will remain in an elo they dont belong in. I wish there was a way to Make a system that isnt abused, (and as much as i hate Lyte and his works) There is nothing His team can do at the moment to save LP without a cost. But goodluck on your Future Games!

--Caytheles The Support Main

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