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Banning All Smurf Accounts

AtreiNero··9 votes·3,085 views

Because frankly I'm getting sick and tired of encountering them. But there's more here. I'll leave the griping to the end.

There is no logical reason for a smurf account in this game, especially in ranked or especially for ranked. This isn't an MMO like WoW or SWToR where having multiple characters makes sense. Storyline, playstyle, items, different things like that.

However in a game like this there is no reason to have a smurf account. All people with smurfs end up doing is deliberately playing in bronze to "test out new things". Who cares? All they do is keep other players who are trying to get out of bronze there because people in bronze can't compete on that level. "But i'm trying something new." Yeah no you aren't. Because you are higher elo than bronze players, you will do better than them even if you are trying something new.

Especially duos. In my play today I've encountered no less than 5 people who say they were smurfs, and given how they played I really don't see a reason to doubt them.

If you want to try something new, then play normals don't play ranked. "But i have to do in a competitive area". Yeah then do it on your level with some practice first in normals. I also just call bs to that shit anyway. I don't even think that smurfs realize that they actually hurt people, nor do I think they care. "It's all about me. I don't care about other players, my time is more important than yours." Well if you are thinking like that, then you need to rethink why you are doing it. Your time isn't more valuable than someone else's. Not to mention that you are punishing the other team. Even if your team is a train wreck, your team will be the wreck that crashes into the other team and wreck them while you all somehow make it out alive.

Smurfs are just a thing that rito needs to make illegal or if they allow them, then normal games only. So do someone a favor if you want to try something new, play a normal game.

Edit: Since there is some confusion, let me make my point clear. NO ONE NO MATTER THE ELO should have a smurf. I used high level elo players having a low elo account because it does happen and happens often. It was an example, but some people cannot seem to grasp this concept.

18 Comments

Ice Weasel X7 votes

How to Kill Smurfs

  1. Acquire paintball gun and blue paintballs. Bonus points if the gun is not immediately recognizable as a paintball marker.
  2. Go up to impressionable children and inform them that Smurfs are real. They just happen to be invisible until they die.
  3. Point at random location on the ground and say, "There's one!"
  4. Shoot ground.
  5. Repeat steps 3 and 4 until you get bored or adults show up.
  6. Get thee gone.
IcyPepper6 votes

Honestly, I kinda get what you're getting at here. I have a low level smurf to use when my newbie friends who just started wants to play. However, I'd consider myself a "polite" smurf. It's just painful to watch newbie mistakes, knowing that this game is pretty difficult, and I get it. I was there, I'm still kinda there. So, I don't go all ham on them. I punish some mistakes, but I allow some to slide and let them get away to learn. I KNOW I can easily stomp them, but I want them to have a chance to have fun at the game too.

Smurfing should be done to play with lower level friends, not to pubstomp noobs or ruin somebody's day with something way out of wack. Ranked is competitive play, no matter your rank. If you queue up in rank, you're in it to win it. Normals are for fun, or to experiment with something for ranked. If you want to try something new for ranked, you better have that shit down to a T.

just my two cents

AtreiNero1 votes

Thank you for being a least someone who understands with a smurf. I still want to ban them, but at least I can see someone gets my point at a higher elo.

Sarutobi4 votes

i think its getting a little out of hand. i understand that there will always be new people playing this game, and its nice to play with friends who may still be new so it wouldnt be right to just play with them and then playing with people of a much higher level skill set. but i think nowadays its getting out of hand. people are just making smurf accounts to get a higher ranking. you start out fresh thus having a higher chance of success when playing with people who obviously havent been playing as much as you. it sets an unfair advantage!

NIEKUH3 votes

clap clap!!! and clap.... 100% agree we should start killing smurfs.

Glamazon2 votes

Ever watch nightblue? Lol he has a thousand accounts... basically so he can do dumb builds against lower rankings to impress his viewers. God his voice is annoying. Lol

LogJammin2 votes

upto a point you do have a valid argument. HOWEVER......

you may be getting upset at the smurf but went it also forces you to do is to try to up your game. Every now and then it won't hurt you to take a little extra challenge to push yourself. This really applies to almost any competitive environment. You need practice against all sides of the spectrum of player skill to fully improve and I speak from personal experience.

Kids these days just want everything handed out to them.... Smh.

Bottom line is you can either quit and come cry for mommy and daddy (Rito) to fix it or you can buckle down and make less mistakes for your opponent to capitalize on. Ultimately it's upto you.

I know when it comes to Brazilian jiu jitsu I'm always grateful to train with a higher skilled partner. Without them I would never have anything to push me to improve. Same concept applies here.

AtreiNero2 votes

"Bottom line is you can either quit and come cry for mommy and daddy (Rito) to fix it" Talk about being out of line and rude. Also, nice job on not reading between the lines. This isn't about something being handed to someone, it is about simple basic logic, a concept you seem to be unable to grasp without throwing accusations. It is also a big problem that you also fail to recognize.

I made a point that no one should have a smurf account, anyone for that matter no matter what their elo. I pointed out higher elos because that is the most common case and one that is quite easy to find. A plat or diamond player will be better than a bronze player no matter what is going on. It isn't about mistakes, its about skill and while there are good bronze players, there is no reason a diamond should have any reason to come down and curbstomp someone just because they want to feel better. A single diamond level player on a standard bronze team will give that team the edge, even if the entire team is a train wreck.

Playing against someone who is better is a great way to improve your game, but to use your analogy, if someone is a blue belt, it would be extremely unfair and illogical to have them go against a black belt or higher. The skill level is something completely different. Purple, maybe brown would be the highest logical one to go up against. To continue with that, since I took Karate a long time ago, forgetting which one exactly, they were quite strict when it came to sparring and testing your abilities. They would never let a white belt spar against a black, but instead maybe a yellow, since the system was white, orange, yellow, green, blue, purple, brown, black. They were careful to improve your skills, while still giving you a reasonable chance to improve. Your analogy can only go so far, and your attitude prevents you from seeing that because of your own biased statement assuming something that isn't there.

Sure am I angry that I'm stuck once again in bronze after pulling my way out into silver last season? Hell yes, but that isn't the point. The point is that there are too many smurf accounts and rito does nothing about them when they do cause more problems for those people who are trying to get out of bronze and into a higher elo so they can get better. Smurfs only hurt when someone uses them like how i described, because it isn't about getting better, because they are two completely separate skillsets.

For the sake of argument, a silver player with a smurf account going into bronze is a valid test of skill since they are at least close and can lead to improvement because there is still a close skill set. But gold, plat, diamond, master, or for the love of all things good, challenger, isn't fair, which is the point of the argument. Not too many silver players have smurfs, they are more commonly found in Gold and above.

To use another analogy, since I live in the US, would it be fair to put high school freshmen against say those who play in the NHL? NFL? NBA? MLB? MLS? (those are the pros) And tell those pro players to play no differently? I don't think you will have many people agreeing with you. If any at all.

If you think your analogy is right, then say that a bronze level adc going against a plat level adc will win? Odds are most likely not because of the vast difference in skill and how the game is played at those different elos. In higher elos, a single small mistake will end the game, but in lower elos, you can recover, learn, and adapt in the same game. They aren't used to that playstyle and putting them now in that playstyle isn't a test of skill, its a test of how much of a jerk someone is. Not giving someone at a lower skill level to adapt and learn, especially on the fly, and instead just push them further into the hole, does that really solve anything considering how long these games are and how hard it is to get out of a losing streak if it does come around? Or does it make the problem worse? The answer to that should be obvious.

Can something happen that makes them win? Absolutely. But the level of skill is so far apart that the analogy breaks itself.

Competing against someone of a higher level is the best way to improve, but that opponent needs to be at least closer to the same skill level than say bronze vs plat. Bronze I vs Master tier isn't good, but Bronze I vs Silver 2/3 would be a good one.

Sneekers1 votes

I have several smurfs and the reason I play them mostly is because I like to get high and play. That being said I don't think players at my elo would enjoy playing with me when I'm stoned and making stupid plays. I play on my low Gold smurf during this time so that I can still play in a competitive environment but at an elo I'm actually performing at. I also do drinking games on my smurf with friends.

Edit: I also only play one role on my main, where as on my smurfs I practice my other roles.

Glamazon6 votes

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I have several smurfs and the reason I play them mostly is because I like to get high and play. That being said I don't think players at my elo would enjoy playing with me when I'm stoned and making stupid plays. I play on my low Gold smurf during this time so that I can still play in a competitive environment but at an elo I'm actually performing at. I also do drinking games on my smurf with friends.

Edit: I also only play one role on my main, where as on my smurfs I practice my other roles.

I think you kind of proved the OPs point lol

AtreiNero1 votes

Thank you for giving me another case of why they should be banned. My point proven with this statement.

If you can't take ranked seriously, then don't play it no matter the account. Something you don't seem to realize, that you only hurt those other players by playing like that. You force them deeper into the hole. You want to play like that, then go into normals, don't hurt someone else, or in this case, four people by doing that. People in bronze ranked are still people, something that SOME high level elo players seem to forget, and they want to get out, but if you do things like this and force them deeper into the hole, how will they get out?

Sneekers1 votes

Lol they have a better chance of playing with me stoned than the players at their elo though. Like I'm playing 60% effort which brings my elo to like mid plat - low diamond. I don't see how playing with better players ruins anyones experience if they are trying to play better and get out of their elo.

Dedrius1 votes

I understand where you are coming from, most high elo smurfs get play with gold/plats after placements where I am and have dealt with them before. Although you are at a major disadvantage when playing smurfs, I don't think its very fair to say high elo players can only have 1 account but does that mean bronze players can have as many accounts as they want?

It doesn't seem fair to force high elo players to play on their main accounts while allowing bronze players to do what they want just because they are less skilled.

AtreiNero1 votes

I made a point using higher elo players because they more often than not have smurfs. Nice assumption and not thinking outside the box. However, no one, no matter the elo, should have a smurf. It is unfair and doesn't do anything. You made a mistake in your placements, then fix it, you can't always just press the reset button.

warpenguin5551 votes

i have a smurf i play on if i fell like being left alone from my friends for a little bit, does that make me a bad person?

AtreiNero1 votes

Depending on how you play it. You can also ignore invites and say that you just want to play alone for a bit. I do it on xbox live all the time. My friends there understand perfectly.

CaptainTatertits1 votes

What you have to keep in mind is that the MMR is the same for everyone, as far as how it is calculated. In the very low levels I see how it could be annoying, but math is math bro. Their other account(s) are completely irrelevant to the matchmaking of their "smurf" accounts. I have a smurf account so that some of my friends can play with me without being slaughtered and discouraged. But my main account (this one) I am never really too serious with, so it doesn't really matter. If I was obsessed with getting plat and getting a high MMR, then I would only be serious with this account, and screw off with the other one. But with this one I both am serious sometimes, and try odd things sometimes, so my MMR never gets too high. Honestly, it is kinda boring being too serious all the time. :/

AtreiNero1 votes

This isn't about mmr it's about skill with Champs and on the rift. Reread what I typed the first time.

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