Proof That Riot Moves Far Too slow

Xonra··43 votes·1,987 views

So I'm going to share something that may or may not get me in a little trouble (and this thread may go poof), but I'm kind of having that proverbial "up to here" moment with how slow Riot is with most of their features (in game or otherwise).

  • This won't be a completely short read, so best tl:dr I can give it, worked on a project with Riot, been over 9 months since it started, I backed out because it was dragging from Riot's side specifically, and it still hasn't even been mentioned to the public, let alone completed.

So last year, some people had a chance to join a volunteer equivalent team to help Riot with what was going to be a new board section, run a bit less by Riot, and more by the "community" (or at least the group I was a part of).

I won't name the other names or call out the Rioter in charge, but I will say there were about 6-10 of us (some came and went, or didn't respond for a week at a time).

The idea was that there would be an area for all things league related, news wise, and we would help centralize all of this information here on the boards, not on Reddit, not on a third party site, or Twitter or wherever, but an actual attempt at keeping things HERE.

This was back before December this started as far as getting things together, having pretty much weekly Skype discussions and so on.

After two months, I backed out because the Rioter in charge of the project barely showed up, rarely responded, and eventually seemed to expect us to do all of the work for them. Things were going at a snail crawl with what was essentially a VERY simple plan, and I backed out because of what we needed to do but weren't getting done because Riot employees were being so ridiculously slow to implement the smallest of things.

It is now mid July, and I have not heard a single peep, and either they are still twiddling their thumbs, or the plan has since (as is par for the course at Riot) scrapped the idea altogether.

Just thoughts I would share this info from my experiences dealing directly with riot on something, because people wonder why things move so slowly, and if this experience is any example, it is because they seem anything but motivated and very organized.

This may or may not get deleted, like I said, but I felt it only fair to finally say something, as this is just an example of why I am frustrated with Riot over the past year.

19 Comments

A Sexy Goldfish8 votes

Only a year? When the in-game tip that you can "voice your opinion and vote in the tribunal today" has been down since like fucking season three?

Xonra1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Czar Chasrn,realm=NA,application-id=cIfEodbz,discussion-id=Xaj3b4Ya,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2015-07-14T22:57:35.803+0000)

Only a year? When the in-game tip that you can "voice your opinion and vote in the tribunal today" has been down since like fucking season three?

True enough

Civil Dawn1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Czar Chasrn,realm=NA,application-id=cIfEodbz,discussion-id=Xaj3b4Ya,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2015-07-14T22:57:35.803+0000)

Only a year? When the in-game tip that you can "voice your opinion and vote in the tribunal today" has been down since like fucking season three?

OMG YES. Every game I'm like.... This has been here since I started league.

Snowball4u4 votes

Rollercoasters take years to make. One flaw and boom someone dies.

If the new board section is not DESIGNED nearly perfect, it could hurt a chunk of the community.

Xonra8 votes

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Rollercoasters take years to make. One flaw and boom someone dies.

If the new board section is not DESIGNED nearly perfect, it could hurt a chunk of the community.

Given that it is fairly straightforward and the ideas were already hashed out when I backed out over 4 months ago, there is no legitimate excuse for it still being in the same old holding pattern.

  • the code of conduct specific to the area was finished
  • I've still got the guidelines on my hard drive that were finished in January
  • How it would be run was hashed out well over 4 months ago

There was nothing else to be finished outside of doing it. I know this because we had the board up at one point in 2014, but these boards were having a bug at the time where you would click on one board and sometimes it would take you to a completely different section.

The specific board in question was fully removed because people found it through that bug by accident and were posting trolls stuff and porn.

So it would take about an hour at most, from right now, to have it up and running. It isn't, because....who knows?

Rew7113 votes

I'll be honest. I'm not the best artist and honestly, don't care to be one of the best. But, I have high expectations for Riot. They try to get the best of the best for what they do. And with one person given each a separate project, I don't get why it would take so long because once you do it (at least 2 or 4 times) it should become habit. If I can draw a picture of a wolf, a bear, or zebras in 3, 5, 3 days (respectively), why does it take so long to: get responses on questions, bugs, and discussions; make new splashes for old champions; write longer narrative; make a champion (looking at you Ao Shin and Warwick's rework)?

Here are the proof of my pictures. I took them on my phone so its not great to look at. (I messed around with the lighting and really messed around with edges of the zebras)

http://orig03.deviantart.net/19c0/f/2015/167/a/e/zebras_by_rew711-d8stbu2.jpg

http://img09.deviantart.net/bb65/i/2015/119/a/9/wolf_practice_by_rew711-d8rksu2.jpg

http://img09.deviantart.net/9771/i/2015/116/f/b/polar_bear_drawing_by_rew711-d8r7v9d.jpg

Beoridas1 votes

so you are saying that Marc and Brandon are the ones causing this? I dunno.

If you read stuff about the company in glassdoor. ex employees would explain to you why its like that. It may surprise you. But i dont think its money even tho it makes sense.

AyRe CoNteMpT7 votes

yeah, half of us would die if the color scheme of the new board was like, not genderfluid. oh shit.

@ OP: yeah, rito is pretty slow and clueless when it comes to not only getting things done, but also the things they so helplessly attempt to get done. not even scapping on balance here.

still, phreak dresses pretty good, most of the time.

Xonra1 votes

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yeah, half of us would die if the color scheme of the new board was like, not genderfluid. oh shit.

@ OP: yeah, rito is pretty slow and clueless when it comes to not only getting things done, but also the things they so helplessly attempt to get done. not even scapping on balance here.

still, phreak dresses pretty good, most of the time.

They are pretty slow and clueless with it comes to getting things done, and at times they remind me of my grandfather with how out of touch they can be sometimes.

They are also a touch lazy with the above thing I mentioned, as it isn't implemented, and the sad part is, most of the content wasn't even going to be Riot's own content.

It would be pulling content from say, Reign of Gaming, or Surrender at 20 (as examples) and reposting, or rewording "breaking news", or e-sports news, or posting something "league related" like months back when that senator was playing league and blah blah.

They had to click "create board" put a header for it, and copy and paste from other sites with citation as needed.

I know they won't like me calling them out on this b.s. but....it is kind of sad that even with so little work, it is going on 9 months and they haven't even told the community it is a thing they are working on, let alone finished it.

AyRe CoNteMpT4 votes

sure, they make alot of unneccessary mistakes. all that isnt my problem tho. my true problem with riot is that they are like "OH WE ARE SO COMMUNITY-RELATED" but in fact, they are not at all. and thats really sad.

Xonra5 votes

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sure, they make alot of unneccessary mistakes. all that isnt my problem tho. my true problem with riot is that they are like "OH WE ARE SO COMMUNITY-RELATED" but in fact, they are not at all. and thats really sad.

From my experiences, they really want to be.

The problem is, the "PR front" says the whole, we want to be community driven/related whatever the phrase of the week is, but they are just pandering.

The fact is, there are lots of great Rioters who really want to be but are short armed in what they are actually allowed to do.

Take lore for example - They have tons of stuff already written, stuff finished and ready to ship and share, but the actual people in charge want to take their sweet time, so it looks bad on the people working their butts off as people assume they are doing nothing. In reality riot is just slow for honestly no good reason.

At any given time there are multiple reworks, fixes, new champs being worked on, but we see a rework (a real rework) once a year maybe? Not because they aren't working on them, but because $$$. No money in released all that good content at once, they have to have new skins to bundle with it and so on.

Their work ethic and WANT to be more community driven is there, just not enough from the people that actually matter and are in charge at Riot. The people that work their asses off rarely get credit or the work they do is rolled out so slow it isn't appreciated.

That is the truly sad part.

Hawkefire2 votes

This is....disheartening and saddening to the extreme. I always feared that most of Riots problems were due to management issues and I suppose that (if what you are saying is actually true) they are in fact suffering from really poor management.

Xonra1 votes

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This is....disheartening and saddening to the extreme. I always feared that most of Riots problems were due to management issues and I suppose that (if what you are saying is actually true) they are in fact suffering from really poor management.

Yes and no.

PArtially a lack of management, mostly because that isn't 100% how they operate. They are autonomous to a degree (the different groups), and things like this (what the OP is about) were one of those things. There are just so many projects that are "side" projects in a sense that pulls people around, which in turn slows down other areas.

It is what I like to call a controlled cluster f**k

Sometimes it works

Sometimes it really doesn't

Stellafreyja8 votes

Rollercoasters =/= Forums

Snowball4u1 votes

lol im not too sure about that... they look pretty similar

Xonra3 votes

Bumping for Vision

Glamazon2 votes

No wonder the group was slow and ineffective. If I had to read 10 paragraphs to get to your 2 sentence point, I'd be slow too.

The Loveless1 votes

Maybe they found out you work for a terrorist organization.

Xonra2 votes

[{quoted}](name=The Loveless,realm=NA,application-id=cIfEodbz,discussion-id=Xaj3b4Ya,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2015-07-14T22:51:55.350+0000)

Maybe they found out you work for a terrorist organization.

I dunno why, but I couldn't help but laugh at this.

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