@IronStylus Hat toggle?

Linna Excel·Feb 17, 2014·5 votes·2,935 views

Most MMOs have some kind of a system to turn off hats and facemasks if you don't like them. While I admit for some champs this would be difficult or impossible for (IE zed or kayle of because unmasked kayle), would this feature be doable in the future?

In particular, I'm not a fan of all the hats in the game (or garen's scarf). Could it be done so players could turn them off when they wanted to?

13 Comments

RiotIronStylusFeb 17, 20146 votes

Currently we have the ability to do this as you see in Vi's Neon Strike skin. If you use her taunt, her glasses come down. It's something I'd like to implement on a champion or skin someday, but with a helmet.

Right now I'm pretty sure we can use the same function for a number of things.

Fear NotFeb 17, 20141 votes

I feel like a change like that should be more tied to an ability -- the visual of "Look, I'm wearing more armor" should, well, make the user feel more... armored. With Vi and her glasses, it's not quite the same because you wouldn't expect glasses to do much from a combat standpoint, but a helmet is textbook armor.

I could see a hat not counting as armor, for what that's worth.

carneficeFeb 17, 20144 votes

"you wouldn't expect glasses to do much from a combat standpoint"

Tell that to Leona ......

Fear NotFeb 19, 20141 votes

1 less damage isn't really "much" from a combat standpoint, is it? :P

PsychoB0bFeb 17, 20141 votes

...So would it be reasonable to assume that you could provide two identicle versions of Cait, one with hat and one without...and could have it toggled by a button press?

Linna ExcelFeb 17, 20141 votes

Cool, thanks for the reply.

Maybe heimerdinger's goggles could be up or down depending on if he's repairing a tower or not. That'd be a way to use the system in a manner that fits with his character.

ArcticSiriusFeb 18, 20141 votes

Well if it were made into this "hat toggle", could it possibly have the ability to go between bowler (like you suggested) and top hats (which some of the community likes)? Like one moment bowler, the next she does a thing and the hat pop up into a top.

We do not kneelFeb 19, 2014

Could you consider this for phoenix Quinn? Her hood should be able to come up and down.

Sir ArmaMalumFeb 17, 20141 votes

I like this idea

Kobila2000Feb 18, 20141 votes

That would mean they'd have to model the parts of the champions that are now covered, which would probably be a ton of additional work, especially considering the number of champions we have currently.

Linna ExcelFeb 18, 20141 votes

Adding to the model on the top of cait's head a small dome isn't really a problem. Particularly if they are doing a VU on the champ and have to remake the model anyways. I've done a little 3d modeling myself so minor changes/additions aren't that difficult, they just take a little time.

Getting the UV map right is the real b---- of the process, particularly if adding new vertices deletes the old map. But again, if these sorts of things are largely kept to VUs, you are going to have to deal with the problem either way, so you might as well get the most out of it the first time.

This isn't something you want to add to a champ after the VU is done so I'd personally limit it to champs that need a VU at first.

King Fried MelonFeb 18, 20141 votes

Ashe Caitlyn Corki Draven Ezreal Graves Jinx Lucian MissFortune Quinn Sivir Teemo Tristana Twitch Urgot Varus Vayne

EphidelFeb 18, 20141 votes

This is a really cool idea, but I think for some champions the hat is part of their "silhouette." Meaning it probably would make it too difficult to identify them at a glance if that part was taken away. I can see this working for Garen's scarf though, since a lot of his skins don't even have one.

It'd probably be a lot of work for Riot to do it with old champions too, as much as I'd like to see it. But I really hope options like that start happening regularly with future champions, because it sounds awesome.