Leona had a bug. 57% winrate.

GULAG 4 U·Sep 10, 2016·8 votes·815 views

No one QQs.

Yasuo has one. 55% winrate. People lose their shit. Bullshit much?

29 Comments

Juggernaut628Sep 10, 20166 votes

That's because Leona isn't a hard carry. As much as people may have disliked Leona's bug, Yasuo's bug let him 100-0 people even faster/earlier while Leona's bug only gives her a good win rate if her team is competent.

GULAG 4 USep 10, 20163 votes

still a bug. All leona needs is his team to follow up when she goes in.

(considering she isn't doing dumbshit like going 1v3 when the only other person around is a fucking kha'zix)

Also it doesn't excuse anything.

adidasSep 10, 20162 votes

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still a bug. All leona needs is his team to follow up when she goes in.

(considering she isn't doing dumbshit like going 1v3 when the only other person around is a fucking kha'zix)

Also it doesn't excuse anything.

Leona doesnt 100-0 you in 1 second

GULAG 4 USep 10, 20161 votes

Yasuo does? He doesn't unless you gave him the chance to EQ you with a knockup followed by ult

dunkeroniSep 11, 20162 votes

Yeah, and Chogath doesn't do 400 true damage unless you give him the chance to R you.

Vayne doesn't do %health damage unless you give her the chance to basic attack three times.

Morgana doesn't get to snare you unless you give her the chance to hit you with a skillshot.

Fizz doesn't get to annihilate you and jump out for free, taking 0 damage and being untargettable to every damage source in the game unless you don't ban him :P

GULAG 4 USep 11, 20161 votes

He has to get melee.

Fuck vayne

It's easy to dodge morgana's Q in general

Fuck fizz

dunkeroniSep 11, 20162 votes

Then by your very own logic:

Fuck yasuo

GULAG 4 USep 11, 20161 votes

->says yasuo is bullshit

->Proceeds to say other champions are bullshit

->Makes irrevelant point

->???

dunkeroniSep 11, 20161 votes

No, you have misread the prior statements:

Juggernaut: Leona can't insta-kill like yasuo

You: Leona just needs a team

Chrion: Leona still can't 100-0 you alone

**You: **Yasuo has a requirement before he can destroy you

Me: These are other champions that have requirements to 100-0 you

**You: **Fuck those champions

Me: By your own logic, fuck Yasuo

Isn't life better when you actually read the other statements in the argument you willingly participate in?

GULAG 4 USep 11, 20161 votes

Leona is a juggernaut? Nice joke there

Also just because fuck fizz and vayne it doesn't mean leona I said fuck yasuo, your points are nonsense

dunkeroniSep 12, 20161 votes

ONE AGAIN you have misread the prior statements.

SUMMONER JUGGERNAUT628 STATED THAT LEONA ONLY NEEDS A TEAM TO FOLLOW UP

I sincerely hope you can understand now that I posted account names in the following format;

**NAME: **"thing said by player with NAME"

Please learn how to read or stop using the internet.

BlakiepugSep 10, 20163 votes

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still a bug. All leona needs is his team to follow up when she goes in.

(considering she isn't doing dumbshit like going 1v3 when the only other person around is a fucking kha'zix)

Also it doesn't excuse anything.

I think he is right. Personally, I was pretty bothered when Leona's winrate shot up especially since I consistently take a bot lane role but even though I found it frustrating, it is harder for people to notice her impact. The difference is that people see their health bars getting chunked down by Yasuo; they didn't see that with Leona.

GULAG 4 USep 10, 20161 votes

But you do get cc'd for 10 years

BlakiepugSep 10, 20161 votes

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But you do get cc'd for 10 years

True. I think part of it too is that Yasuo is one of the most played champions in the game so maybe not as many people were as aware of the Leona bugs as Yasuo bugs or didn't care as much because they didn't see her as much. For patch 6.17, Yasuo had the 19th highest play rate while maintaining close to a 50% ban rate according to champion.gg.

GULAG 4 USep 10, 20161 votes

it was more 49. But that's high elo anyways, and people don't look at the learning curve on op gg and claim 49 is too much.

Was over 50 during bug but when other champions have bugs, nobody loses their shit unless malicious metal points out morde's dragon/ghosts being boosted animals (which is true and fucks over morde hard as it's the reason why you pick him over darius honestly)

CatastropSep 10, 20164 votes

How many of our games is Leona in opposed to Yasuo? Honestly, I haven't seen a Leo in months.

BlakiepugSep 10, 20161 votes

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How many of our games is Leona in opposed to Yasuo? Honestly, I haven't seen a Leo in months.

It's been quite a while since the Leona bug, but when she had it I saw her a ton. I even had a Leona mid lane one game that wrecked her lane opponent in a ranked game. It was pretty disgusting.

CatastropSep 10, 20164 votes

You missed my point, people won't QQ about something they don't know about. She's not played that much so the bug doesn't get much spotlight, people attribute her winrate rise to just Leo players being good.

FreudFromSKASep 10, 20163 votes

Youre forgetting the extra special ingredient of a fun game: fun.

A broken Yas that can merc youre whole team more unfun than a broken full tank supp.

Some champs' kits are just annoying and unfun despite numbers. Teemo's a good example of this. Yas and Ekko are too.

TeslynSep 10, 20163 votes

wasnt the bug introduced in 6.2 when people werent grinding for their elo. also it was just a long range stun that was caused by her zenith blade. best visual would be if you had 3 stacks from a tahm and he tonged you.
it wasnt a 100-0 hard carry bug.

GULAG 4 USep 11, 20161 votes

Still can easily force you to burn a flash if you got hit by it.

BlakiepugSep 10, 20162 votes

No I understood your point. :P I was just recounting that Leona's play rate definitely increased during the period in which she had a bug and pretty large chunk of the community was aware of it. But I agree that Yasuo is seen 100x more than Leona which is definitely a part of the reason everyone is so much more upset by his bugs.

Horse GrenadesSep 11, 20162 votes

Yasuo= overloaded kit

Leona= not overloaded kit

see the difference?

GULAG 4 USep 11, 20161 votes

So? Justifies nonstop QQ, salt, rage towards yasuo mains?

Also leona is not overloaded?

That's some funny sh*t right there.

She got one thing in passive.

2 in Q. (Extra range+stun)

2 in w (Extra stats and the damage)

2 things in E (dash, root)

2 things in ult (Stun, basic attack enhancer)

That's 9 things in her kit.

Yasuo.

2 passives. 2 elements in Q. one thing in w. 2 things in E. 2 things in ult.

That's 9 too.

Horse GrenadesSep 11, 20161 votes

Oh... you're serious?

GULAG 4 USep 11, 20161 votes

And you downvote without any arguments? As usual, yasuo qqers are being self righteous...

Horse GrenadesSep 11, 20161 votes

I didn't down vote.

Also, yasuo's kit has been busted since release.

Super mobile
Free bullshit shield.
Projectile zhonyas every 14 sec
AoE ult with armor pen bullshit
100% crit chance at 1.5 items bullshit

he has counter play, but he's annoying and overloaded. He isn't as bad as Ekko or anything, but he has no definitive weak point in the game.

GULAG 4 USep 11, 20161 votes

Yes
It's shit compared to almost every other shield in the game
It doesn't block anything, it's only in one direction after cast
Technically it is, but that's if you let him knock up many people with EQ/Q
Yes

He does have. Shitty base stats, no escapes, not the most reliable ult in the game and other things.

WoonStruckSep 11, 20161 votes

Leona

2 in Q. (Extra range+stun)

** Most on-hit spells grant some extra range at this point. That's a part of them, not 'extra.' Champs that don't have this have a serious reason for it or simply haven't been updated in a long time. Besides, you'd have to count that against Yasuo too using your logic.**

Auto attack reset and stun, so its still 2, however.

2 in w (Extra stats and the damage)

Bonus resistances is it, unless you want to add 3 more to Yasuo, as well as another for the on-hit+crit aspects of his Q being separated in my counting.

That's 9 things in her kit.

Actually 8 things.

Yasuo

2 elements in Q.

4: Ability->counts as auto(three parts to this, but I'll be generous), stacking->knockup, E->Q interaction, AS->CDR/cast time interaction

2 things in E.

4: dash, essentially no cooldown with a lock-out, scales with movement speed, stacking bonus damage.

2 things in ult.

4 things in ult: gapcloser, cc, armor pen, free shield. Absurdly low CD should be another, but I won't count that since he doesn't build CDR outside of bruiser builds.