Give us a free dodge in ranked.

blacknerdtaku··3 votes·1,409 views

Ok now hear me out. i think i found a fairly balanced and unabusable way to make sure that people can not only be reported for their in-lobby actions, but can prevent a toxic game without fear of LP loss. Back in this thread http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/miscellaneous/xtvwIRBI-some-ideas-for-changes I touched upon an idea of one free ranked dodge a week capping at 3 dodges allowed. But i feel like fleshing that out

Basically it would work like this each summoner gets a free dodge a week capping at 3 if you build them but you can only use one (or two) a day. after you dodge you get a 30-60 second buffer. before you can play again

if a summoner uses his dodge he can then be asked why with a drop down the reason why. Now many things could be the reason but in my head the choices are

*[Report] Toxic player/Troll

*troll pick [no report sent]

*emergency

*other

now the one i want to focus on is the toxic/troll option.

click on that option and you get the names of all the people in your lobby, that you can then report before the game begins with a "select all that apply" box. and leave that Lobby. after that report is sent the other 3/2 player(s) (naturally we exclude the reported players, and as an added bonus a duo queue partner's imput has slightly less impact for the sake of avoiding Bias) before they leave the lobby. this will serve as a verification from other players. So now you've not only allowed horrible games to be more easily avoided, you've collectively helped to reduce the numbers of these trolls.

After each dodge the perpatrator is given a warning of their report. if they are the cause of 3 dodges a day, they get low priority queue.

What prevents abuse?

  • Limiting number of dodges means thinking about your dodge before you do it.

  • If you bully somebody into using their dodge, it will begin to show on your report, mind you you should be getting very few of these a week. if you get more than 5 or so, there's a problem with you. you shouldnt have to harass somebody into dodging because you got an undesirable whatever. it should be to their discresion, not yours. if you are the cause it will show.

  • while this does reveal both the chat and the champ selected by the player (assuming there is one) it's primary target is the player's chat, if a player doesnt communicate that will also count. But if a player is simply being toxic about it, a pattern will be shown. Mind you, since this also requires a vote. other team members can vouch for a Guy if he's wrongly accused.

Why do it?

  • Help stop tilts. Ever heard a team guy say "GG we have troll?" well that could be avoided, and the people responsible will get snared by the reporting system

  • Positive attitude = positive competitive play. which is crucial in a game about fun.

  • should also slow those early game Harp-fests where you disagree with somebody's pick

  • Because the system is so limited it means that a spike in reports is likely for good, valid reason and cause for player review.

*Discuss? *

12 Comments

proud and bronze4 votes

so non-meta picks will be punishable? also people will lolking their teammates and report them troll if they are bad.

bad idea.

FHMarshy3 votes

Nope, It's a terrific idea. I've had COUNTLESS games where last pick just refuses to fill. Picks whatever they want and just play it, regardless of what had been picked on team.

OR even worse, If someone doesn't get their lane, they just proceed to troll. Im NOT against non-meta picks, but when they INTENTIONALLY said that they well troll just because they can't get their lane, it is very annoying

OR when people lower in picks ask for a commonly banned champion, but the first pick doesn't own that champ so bans it, the lower pick begins to rage/toxic/troll.

All of the reason above should we get a free dodge in rank in a given period of time.

blacknerdtaku2 votes

Once again, this will only get you IF (and only if) its a repeated offense like our normal report system. And with other teammates to vouch for you, it works. Since the dodge number is so low less people are likely to report you just for picking outside of meta confidently... on the flip side if people rage, and troll or whatever and then chose THAT'S a report

Trollpick wont report players.

only "Toxic player/Troll"

as specifically stated in the post "now the one i want to focus on is the toxic/troll option."

Troll-pick would only be if you genuinely don't feel comfortable with the pick (yes try that but it would not report any player just allow for a dodge (and a buffer to not run into them again)

proud and bronze1 votes

I promise people would abuse that report system. 1 free dodge a day is a good idea though.

blacknerdtaku1 votes

Examples as to how it could be abused?

it has a fail-safe in at least 3 measures so people wont get wrongly reported. but people who do troll, rage, etc will get on them.

Even so. getting a few reports wont do anything to you unless they're continuous. like i said. once you hit a certain number they warrant player review.

(and people can try to abuse the report system we have now, it just makes their reports matter less)

proud and bronze1 votes

non-meta picks will get reported. bad players will get reported.

and what about this - "they counter picked me. everyone report me so we get free dodge"

blacknerdtaku1 votes

that could not happen at all... I dont know how you could interpret that as such.

you didnt read.

The dodge doesnt need a vote, just dodge, the report is only on the "Toxic player/Troll" If a person pressures you into using the dodge, by harassment or coaxing just report him as well... if a pattern emerges it means he's trying to take advantage of the system by forcing others to dodge for him. thus his player report gets tarnished.

Non meta reports will get reported by one person. again the team can verify/vouch for the other player. if he gets reported for an unconventional pick during a dodge and you seriously believe that he wasn't a troll and wrongly reported then you can say so.

Remember this is not a normal report, its a system that ensures that a single person would have to get reported by MULTIPLE players at different times to ensure they are actually toxic. getting a single report cant be abusable because it's a single report.

Segaman1 votes

Well shit... if someone picks a Blitzcrank into Morgana and our adc is a Diana... FUCK YEAH I want to dodge... but I GET PUNISHED IF I DO.. I ALSO GET PUNISHED FOR PLAYING A FUCKING LONG ASS GAME WHERE THE OUTCOME HAS ALREADY BEEN DECIDED... the Diana and Blitz ARE FEEDING NOW THEYRE DOING IT INTENTIONALLY... wouldn't care if it was normals... but its a ranked game... I am so sick of halfwits on every team... lately thats all I get... idiots who chase for kills when they shouldn't be... and kids who don't know what decisions to make that are most effective in securing objectives... Constantly being undermined at every attempt I make to carry games... if anyone needs me, ill be feeding Baron.

blacknerdtaku1 votes

so actual thoughts or just here to vent your frustrations? lol

Segaman1 votes

Bit of both... I'm just dumbfounded at how bad its getting... just now, a game where mid top and jungle all fed, it was up to me and my adc to carry... we almost didn;t, thank god the enemy team ended up with an AFK at like 60minutes into the game. Mid lane had like 24 deaths, jungler had 33 and top was at like 20... meanwhile, I was at 9 and adc was at 10 -- that was after a 60 minute game of us trying to do what we could to stay in it... The best part, the kids doing so bad were low gold/high silver (I'm only a silver 4) -_-

blacknerdtaku1 votes

I'm actually very sad that the most i appear to be getting in terms of a counter argument is Abuse, which i explicitly go into with the post.

it seems instead of reading it out, they simply downvote and go on. if this system is "abusable" how could it be abused?

Proud and Bronze says

so non-meta picks will be punishable? also people will lolking their teammates and report them troll if they are bad.

and people agree, despite the fact that the system explicitly allows other players imput to also be considered. meaning that false flags will not get much if any consideration. and if you only get one of these a week do you seriously think people are gonna burn it the first chance they get to report somebody?

blacknerdtaku1 votes

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