This game is 98% luck

LaceUp23·Sep 30, 2015·7 votes·937 views

Unless your skill is a full rank above your current rank, it is literally complete luck whether you win or lose. Which team is going to have the afk J4 that "has been doing it all week" and isn't intelligent enough not to play ranked? Which team is going to get the Veigar support that literally has never played Veigar, but "wanted to try him out" mid lane, but since mid was taken he goes bot and trolls? Which team gets the 2-8 Yasuo 4 mins into the game because #LC$BIGPLAY$? Which team is going to get the 4/28 duo bot lane? That is what leads to toxicity. The trolls in ranked and the fact that they aren't punished.

32 Comments

LuggSep 30, 20153 votes

"I am a great believer in luck, and I find the harder I work the more I have of it"-Thomas Jefferson

LaceUp23Sep 30, 20152 votes

7-2 is hard work. Losing because team is combined 4-32 is luck.

LuggSep 30, 20152 votes

You should have roamed and helped your team. (Standard board reply)

Bunny BellsSep 30, 20151 votes

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You should have roamed and helped your team. (Standard board reply)

Standard board reply:

"East coast lag isn't real. . ." Oh wait. . .I'm too late for that one.

LaceUp23Sep 30, 20152 votes

Ah yes, their typical, "if you are gold 5, you will carry 4 feeding silver 1 players" response. Gotta love the level of stupidity they give with that one xD

LuggOct 1, 20152 votes

Exactly. I have played against many diamond players and held my own no problem. If I could ever climb out of silver, I honestly think I would make diamond pretty easy. I have a ridiculous win rate when I have a competent team. The response is usually "Well that's because they carried you", but I seem to usually have the highest KDA and make the play that wins the deciding teamfight. Strange how that works.

LaceUp23Oct 1, 20152 votes

Yeah, I don't think I can make it to diamond or anything, but I know when I duo'd with my friend we were placed against gold 3 and 2 players. In the two games we duo'd, I had a combined KDA of 3-2-20. One of those games was a 4v5 loss because we had an ADC die a couple times and then rage quit (which by the way goes unpunished because #ritoisdumbasfuq).

Bunny BellsSep 30, 20152 votes

Nop

If you play consistently and never feed. Then statistically your enemy has the higher chance of having the troll.

Like this: If out of 10 people, 1 is a guaranteed troll, and it's not you, you have 4 chances of getting that troll where the enemy has 5 chances of having the troll.

Buuuuuutttttt. . . . People have bad games. People get out played. People make mistakes. If no one made mistakes. You're not perfect. I can promise you, you've had a bad game where your team thought you were a troll.

Suck it up cupcake.

LaceUp23Sep 30, 20152 votes

Statistically, the enemy has the higher chance of having a diamond smurf. So that argument doesn't really hold water.

No, I'm not perfect by any means...but going 0-8 in the first 4 mins isn't "having a bad game" either. People playing champs they have never played before isn't "bad game".

Bunny BellsSep 30, 20152 votes

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Statistically, the enemy has the higher chance of having a diamond smurf. So that argument doesn't really hold water.

No, I'm not perfect by any means...but going 0-8 in the first 4 mins isn't "having a bad game" either. People playing champs they have never played before isn't "bad game".

Ehhh, there are more factors than that.

You're assuming a majority of the players are just actively out to ruin other peoples' games. Where you do have that as a true statement every now and then, most players aren't inherently 'trolls'

That 0-8 case sounds like someone was playing on tilt and was on the mindset of, 'It's not like it'll get any worse!' Which is still a rare case.

I don't think there are as many Diamond smurfs as you think either. Just because someone says it, doesn't make it true. It's easy to get a random name in the Diamond tier and say 'Yup that's my main.'

LaceUp23Sep 30, 20152 votes

I'm not saying there are a lot, but you also are saying there aren't a lot of trolls lol. The fact is, it is 98% luck of who gets the better team. No other reason you can have 9 game win streaks followed by losing 13/15. Completely luck based.

And honestly, I think playing a champ in ranked that you have never played before is actively trying to ruin other people's games. Being 1-4 and diving 1v3 is actively trying to ruin other people's games. There is no way anyone with a fully functioning brain doesn't know that they are going to die. And die again. And die again. Ruins the game for everyone except the person doing it.

Bunny BellsSep 30, 20152 votes

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I'm not saying there are a lot, but you also are saying there aren't a lot of trolls lol. The fact is, it is 98% luck of who gets the better team. No other reason you can have 9 game win streaks followed by losing 13/15. Completely luck based.

And honestly, I think playing a champ in ranked that you have never played before is actively trying to ruin other people's games. Being 1-4 and diving 1v3 is actively trying to ruin other people's games. There is no way anyone with a fully functioning brain doesn't know that they are going to die. And die again. And die again. Ruins the game for everyone except the person doing it.

I would like to know where you get the '98%'. If you play consistently well above your current elo, the 'luck' will be in your favor each game and you will go up.

Look at your last two games. Combined 2/11 with just bare 250 creep, and ZERO warding. Now I'm not a pro, and I'm not extremely good at this game, but it looks like YOU are the very thing you're complaining about.

G'day.

LaceUp23Sep 30, 20151 votes

Yeah, it's pretty had to do well as an adc with a trolling support that afks. But I guess you wouldn't know that because you aren't intelligent enough not to make assumptions :)

And I actually warded more than anyone on my team in both those games. #stopbeingastupidbusinessmajorplz

Bunny BellsSep 30, 20152 votes

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Yeah, it's pretty had to do well as an adc with a trolling support that afks. But I guess you wouldn't know that because you aren't intelligent enough not to make assumptions :)

And I actually warded more than anyone on my team in both those games. #stopbeingastupidbusinessmajorplz

I am an adc main. You're crying is actually amusing to me which is the only reason I'm here because I'm bored at work.

Numbers don't lie. wards bought = 0 total for the past two games. It's impossible to ward more than anyone else on your team when you didn't even buy wards.

Also #CompSciMajorThanks

LaceUp23Sep 30, 20151 votes

I wish I could include pictures here because I'm looking right at the stats. I have 9 wards, support has 8, jungler has 4, mid has 1, and top has 2.

So you are either trolling or too stupid to read. I'm going to guess the later, but either way, I'm done talking to you.

Bunny BellsSep 30, 20152 votes

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I wish I could include pictures here because I'm looking right at the stats. I have 9 wards, support has 8, jungler has 4, mid has 1, and top has 2.

So you are either trolling or too stupid to read. I'm going to guess the later, but either way, I'm done talking to you.

Ah, yes. I see that now. I was looking at wards purchased.

You're efficient at using your trinket. I don't really count that as warding :/

LaceUp23Sep 30, 20151 votes

"warding doesn't count as warding"

Quote of the year.

LaceUp23Sep 30, 20152 votes

Like right now, I have a troll support. I asked him nicely early to "please not pull braum and try to get adc". He literally says, "ok fine im not doing anything". He then sits at tower afk, only running up to take cs with his ult and QE.

why isn't this punishable?

LaceUp23Sep 30, 20152 votes

So glad I get to lose lp and get demoted to silver 2 because I got unlucky and got the trolls on my team.

Bunny BellsOct 1, 20151 votes

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Like right now, I have a troll support. I asked him nicely early to "please not pull braum and try to get adc". He literally says, "ok fine im not doing anything". He then sits at tower afk, only running up to take cs with his ult and QE.

why isn't this punishable?

Your tone suggests it wasn't politely at all.

In fact, I would go as far as to say you're pretty toxic in chat in game because you're displaying such a superiority complex.

LaceUp23Oct 1, 20152 votes

No, actually that was the exact quote. I know you might live in fantasy land where everyone is nice and all, but true be told that game is nothing like that.

Bunny BellsOct 1, 20151 votes

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No, actually that was the exact quote. I know you might live in fantasy land where everyone is nice and all, but true be told that game is nothing like that.

Then I don't know why you have such a problem. I don't seem to find all these trolls you think exist.

Hmmm....

Trolls everywhere? I think you might living in the fantasy ;)

LaceUp23Oct 1, 20151 votes

Well obviously our definitions are different. You think going 1/14/3 is "having a bad game".

InphernalOct 1, 20152 votes

Correction: YOUR games are 98% luck

LaceUp23Oct 1, 20152 votes

And anyone that doesn't play at about a full rank higher than their current rank.

To be honest, I usually get the type of players that pick Riven and go 5/14/2 like you do :)

LaceUp23Oct 1, 20152 votes

Just had a mid/jungle combine for 10/23. GG, thanks rito. Game before that top is 0-5 and jungle is 3-8. GG, thanks rito.

LaceUp23Oct 1, 20152 votes

1/12 bot lane in 15 mins further proves my point.

LaceUp23Oct 1, 20152 votes

My 4 teammates combine for a score 3/14. Also had an afk with his troll duo friend that legit did not know what relic shield passive did. Further proves my point.

LaceUp23Oct 1, 20152 votes

Another game, trolling support that is literally sitting afk in their jungle. Also have 11-17 duo. Thanks rito.

TurtleStacksSep 30, 20151 votes

Yea the only people really skilled in this game are the ones that get out of diamond. I really dont feel like grinding that out to get to diamond and norms is fun enough for me.

Bunny BellsSep 30, 20152 votes

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Yea the only people really skilled in this game are the ones that get out of diamond. I really dont feel like grinding that out to get to diamond and norms is fun enough for me.

Norms is fun. This time in the seasons people begin getting too hot headed since they're border line not get the season rewards.

Still people take Norms too seriously. It's a game peeps. CHILL.

4ManVotedAgainstOct 2, 20151 votes

Statistical outliers with the luck-factor definitely exist & anybody who claims otherwise is extremely ignorant. I was forced to start out the first 50 or so matches of this season with EVERYBODY in EVERY LANE (and jungler) on my team feeding 15 kills in five minutes in then surrendering at 20 even when I was the ONLY one who did NOT feed (except for a maximum of 1 out of 8 matches according to my statistical-records), EVEN on matches where I had a POSITIVE KDA and COULD have potentially carried (but they would ALL Four-Man Surrrender anyway), until there was something like 30 matchs IN A FUCKING ROW of Four-Man Surrenders (I was the ONLY person who did NOT vote YES) that FORCED me into Bronze (happened TWICE mind you). The climb from there to Silver-I was still infuriating, and even when I did reach Silver-I, holy shit mother of fucking god, does that 20-game-loss-streak still take effect, NOT because of MY feeding (except for statistically maybe 1 out of 8 matches with the exception of where I stupidly attempt to help team salvage shit from all of their feeding), but utter LUCK of everybody somehow managing to get their called roles who ALL picked their mains and yet SOME-HOW manage to be having a bad day & feed & lose the shit out of the lanes & match anyway (and the ridiculous amount of THROWS due to BARON-Calls as well as those idiots who keep trying to fight instead of farming to catch up in items & levels before trying to do the next fight which only ends up resulting in guaranteed feeding & most-recently an ADC who kept over-extending, over-staying, and getting caught out, over and over and over, all day long, etc).

Some of my Duo-Partners talk about how they have Plat-Ranked friends who tried doing Silver-Ranked, but those guys said that the handful of games they played just made them quit, reason being because the amount of stupid that they saw in all Silver-Ranks (and also still apparently still happens even in Low-Gold & perhaps even Mid-Gold). With that said you all probably deserve to have some screen-shots of how stupid it can get in the Silver-Ranks... http://i.imgur.com/mcuKrah.jpg http://i.imgur.com/B4UMvCE.jpg Performing like this is apparently insufficient to get out of Silver (perhaps I could've gotten « lucky » and be carried into Gold last season if I actually bothered to DO the promo-matches from Silver-Gold), but in all fairness, I am putting the claims of people who insist that Elo-Hell doesn't exist to the test, and if you can make me good, tell me what I'm doing wrong or need to improve upon, even watch/spectate my matches & give some feedback, then be my guest because I want to know if anybody seriously has enough knowledge to be able to get me into Gold/Plat+ through their tips/pointers if they have any. I do not believe that Elo-Hell exists in the sense that it is impossible to Escape, but I DO believe in the Elo-Hell that exists where you experience feelings of extremely infuriating frustration, even if you're not dogging on your team-members for their mistakes. When I say 20-game loss-streaks from feeders/AFKs/etc., happening more-often than just during one single day, I am NOT kidding. Follow me & spectate my next few hundred matches & you'll eventually see the reality for yourself that it DOES happen. For the record, the W/L-Ratio I had, starting out during this season, was a 11/48 BEFORE I started getting COMPETENT Team-Members or BALANCED Match-Ups.