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Riot, Seriously. How does one even get out of bronze? The skill level of players makes it impossible

GenoXx·9/2/2015, 6:15:51 PM·5 votes·1,247 views

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So i got demoted to b5 from 4 recently because I ddnt have a great game at 20 lp. IT ddnt take me long to get to promos in B5(considering the skill level of players there, yes I said it) I even got on winning streak getting to it. I one the first promo with ease. The second one I wasn't doing bad at all in my lane. But the ally Varus was doing horrible bot lane and blamed it all on the all soraka. Vayne got 2 kills in the first 5 mins. It wasn't long before enemy Vayne was fed to hell and started wrecking bot lane all the way to our base tower. I leave my top lane to try and assists them only to get left by my team in thought-to-be team fight. Turned from a 4v3 to a 1v3 real quick. How do they not even understand team fights? After lost game, the varus decides to bad talk our team. The Ally Soraka adds me. Out of total sympathy I accept. Thats 1 win 1 lost. I just needed one more. So the player(not saying any names) Ask if we could duo bot. I decide to say sure.

Thinking that my next game can be won with total control. So in the Champ select it was noted that we are duoing bot. One player decides that he wants support anyway and goes braum as 2nd pick. I had no problem with it. After a little cat fight in champ select, we finally get to the game. I had already called top. But the ally Yasuo who had already called mid goes top, then ask me to swap lanes. I told him I was already top..... He explains he doesnt want to top because he thinks enemy Fiora counters Yasuo. During his mid lane he gives enemy Morde two kills.

Noticing that this player doesnt have the skill to play against a Morde mid lane as Yasuo, I decide to tell him to swap lanes(Again) Instead of recalling, he goes top with low health and tries to lane with Fiora. Even after I told him countless times not to. What happens? He gives Fiora more kills.

This is where it gets frustrating for me. I now noticed that this is a bad player and he just did not have the skill to be playing ranked(YEs I said it because it needs to be said) While arguing with Yasuo, who claims he's doing bad because "The enemy team all counters him and is "op"", my bot lane is doing terrible too. Actually First blood was from bot lane. I manage to kill mord with ease, and mind you i'm playing ekko. As I begin to wonder why bot lane was losing, I realized the person I was duoing with is just as bad. He had already said he couldn't adc I get that. But the problem is, he's blaming it all on the ally Braum. What the actual fuck? After a pointless futile struggle we lost. And the onlt thing yasuo kept talking about was how he was being countered by the enemy team No It's because he's not a good player. This results in me losing promos. B5 90 lp FFS.

What I don't understand is, How the actual fuck can anyone get up in ranks when you are put into teams like this? I'm not one to just berate on bad players but man, I really tried. I really tried to get to at least Bronze 2 or 1 so i can have a chance to get out of Bronze. The whole reason I was put in bronze 5 the first place was 4 wins 6 lost provisional. I don't understand how the placement even works. Some have got the exact same and got put In Silvers.

How is it fair to make skins only for Gold or Higher when people struggle to even get to those ranks? How does the system work where it's like "I'll give you this bad player in hopes you guys win" or "I'll give you these low elo players because you in it" I have better players in my normals than this. Can some one explain to me the Teaming system where it does this?

12 Comments

AlphaKappaPika9/2/2015, 6:47:58 PM1 votes

dont wanna be this guy but if your that low and have trouble then you suck. sorry but it had to be said, you suck, play norms, get better, then play ranked again next season and it will be easy to climb. if you go negative in a game then you SHOULD lose it, your past 2 games have been negative and you have had abysmal cs in each of those games.

AlphaKappaPika9/2/2015, 6:48:49 PM1 votes

and also i started the season in bronze 4 so dont bullshit me and tell me that its "impossible to climb" and that "only the lucky make it out"

OnlyGragasOnlyGG9/2/2015, 6:51:36 PM1 votes

It's all about MMR ( Match making ratio ), a hidden stat that determines what players you meet and how much lp you gain/lose. If you clearly belong to something better than bronze, your MMR would be very high compared to the elo u are, causing you to climb very easily.

Well, your ranked winrate is below 50%, tells me that you don't deserve to rise. However, If you feel you are good enough and earn to get higher, I recommend you to duo ALL your ranked games with a really trustable player. Etc. I duo with my brother and I'm owning a winrate of 67% and climbing up very fast thanks to our excellent cooperation.

hh the thinker9/2/2015, 6:52:16 PM1 votes

when you duo and when you are in promos, the games are made to be harder. those two things together make it so your team has a very hard time. only duo if you truly like the person you are duoing with or if they are able to carry with you.

DynasticMule9/2/2015, 7:08:43 PM1 votes

If you're in bronze, I'd say stop playing ranked for a while. I was stuck in Silver 3 for a while, and after 9 attempts I FINALLY got promoted to Silver 2. Once I hit s2, I stopped playing ranked, played normals instead, and I started watching my replays, to see what I was doing wrong. I found out that my laning mechanics were AWFUL. I watched some videos that taught me how to trade, when to punish, tips on cs'ing, roaming, etc. For the next two months I practiced nothing but Caitlyn and Azir. The reason I played these champs is because they taught me how to poke properly. For example, if I was playing Azir, it would not be effective to spawn a soldier, Q, then MAYBE get an aa in. Instead, for the same mana, I would spawn the soldier next to the enemy, aa-Q-aa. This resulted in a much more effective trade.

TLDR; practice the basic laning mechanics. Once I got at LEAST a basic idea of this, I went from 10 wins/20 losses to 39 wins/34 losses. If you need help, I will gladly assist you!

OhBoyItsaMegaman9/2/2015, 7:30:03 PM1 votes

League requires a combination of many different kinds of skills. It is very easy to see what skills other people are lacking compared to you. It is very hard to notice skills that other players have that you do not have, or that you do not value. It is also very hard to notice that there are skills which you lack.

Why do you think your duo partner blamed his lane's failures on the Braum? Because a.) he prefers support, so he knows what he would be doing as support and he is acutely aware of the skills that he has and Braum doesn't, and b.) he doesn't know adc that well so he is unable to see the things he's doing wrong in that role.

You are no different. You have things that you're good at, even great at, compared to the average Bronze player. When you look around, you see mostly people who are worse at those skills than you are. But if I shows your replays to another Bronze player, they'd say "he's so bad! He doesn't know how to X, he doesn't know how to Y, he's doing so many things wrong!" And it's because everyone's good at different things.

If you want out of B5, you need to identify the things that you're bad at. There are a lot of them, and you're very bad at them, and that's okay. Practicing will make you better. Even just acknowledging them as weaknesses and concentrating on them during the game will make you better.

Angry Monster9/2/2015, 7:56:56 PM1 votes

Hard to advance in rank when you are playing a couple of ranked games every 2 weeks.

Then I would worry about your builds and play style more than anything. I am not sure who taught you GP should first item shiv, gp with hydra or that you should go lich stinger(on its way to nasors i guess) on ekko.

You just have plenty of optimizations i would worry about over what your team is or is not doing