The problems of bronze Unearthed. Part 1: Vision/countervision

blacknerdtaku·3/23/2015, 4:23:07 PM·3 votes·992 views
http://i.imgur.com/gERkTaH.jpg

i can sum this up easily. the biggest problem with bronze is simply in this picture.

the full conversation goes as follows.

ENEMY: he deserves challenjour but team always feeds ENEMY: gg ENEMY: yi got reported (In bronze asking for a report gets you reported, even if the guy was horribly toxic.) blacknerdtaku: challenger? ENEMY: honor all blacknerdtaku: more like silver blacknerdtaku: id rather work my way up ENEMY: wood GREEN: WP other team ENEMY: you only lost cause u all ad blacknerdtaku:** funny** blacknerdtaku: how im the only person who upgraded my trinket GREEN: yea I dont know what these guys were thinking GREEN: f the trinket GREEN: you needed sightstone (since im an all damage assassin, no i didnt - no idea what she's talking about.) blacknerdtaku: fortune GREEN: zed and voli blacknerdtaku: vision blacknerdtaku: is the most important blacknerdtaku: its a 250 upgrade blacknerdtaku: for more vision GREEN: yes so buy sightstone (again no clue what shes talking about) blacknerdtaku: how ios that a f the trinket? blacknerdtaku: support maybe jg can buy SS blacknerdtaku: eveeryone else blacknerdtaku: get the trinket GREEN: every pro game jung and supp have sightstone (Jg has upgraded trinket, not SS) blacknerdtaku: thats why its there GREEN: every game blacknerdtaku: to share in warding blacknerdtaku: what do you think the 3 ward limit is for? GREEN: sight stone should be first thing supp buys
blacknerdtaku: ok blacknerdtaku: cool blacknerdtaku: hes supp blacknerdtaku: why didnt you help iun vision?
GREEN: watch pro games..... blacknerdtaku: why didnt you say "my supp isnt warding, so i should": blacknerdtaku: no blacknerdtaku: you watch pro games blacknerdtaku: idc what the pros do blacknerdtaku: in this game blacknerdtaku: vision is almost everything blacknerdtaku: you ignore it GREEN: and thats why youll never get better *blacknerdtaku: and pass it off to somebody else blacknerdtaku: that is a perfect example of bronze mentality *

If you dont see the problem here, allow me to abridge (also you need to get better)

  • Shes essentially blaming me, a Master Yi for not buying sight stone, but instead upgrading my trinket. Yes there are numerous other factors to our loss, and that's what i can accept and one (Zed) that i cannot . MF here (named green) throught the entire game insisted that it was only the Jg, and support's job to ward for the team. she never upgraded her trinket. she never bothered to share in the warding. she only blamed.

listen guys in bronze- if you see the support isnt warding, remind them, and ward yourself. it does not all fall onto one person. there is a reason the 3 ward limit was placed... because we as a team should be sharing in the warding.

In bronze, people don't even pay mind to it, after all, it's the supports job and ONLY his job to them.

this MF said to watch the pros (which i do) and what i see them do is buy sweepers, and trinket upgrades. even if the supp has sight stone they share in warding and counter-vision.

Ive said it before, and ill say it again. the biggest issue with bronze is that players love to try to carry** IN KILLS ONLY**, and pass all the utility work off to others. this is a toxic attitude to take in bronze. take objectives and towers. Ward a little bit. and at level 9, upgrade that sight stone.

3 Comments

S H A Y C 03/23/2015, 4:30:00 PM1 votes

Math is hard for stupid people, so you have to be understanding sometimes. If only the support wards, that is a maximum of 4 wards...support + jungle=8 wards. (Support + jungle) - (1 enemy sweeper + 1 raptor buff)=6 wards

top+mid+jung+support+adc=20 wards and no lack of vision ever....

I am going to quote myself here, "What about legal map hacks don't you understand?" -Me-

UnSeenDeath883/23/2015, 4:41:09 PM1 votes

I've wondered this myself, HATE HATE HATE when support doesn't get sightstone/sweeper and when people don't upgrade to great stealth trinket it's 250 gold almost 1 wave worth of gold on unlimited wards, it's cheaper than 3 stealth wards. It sucks especially when I go jung reach a 6 item build and have sweeper, because generally at that point nobody still has an upgraded trinket so how are we supposed to keep dragon and baron warded. I miss blue jung item where it gave the jungler a free ward, but the smite and damage bonuses are nice.

ttururu3/23/2015, 7:42:21 PM1 votes

I'm only lvl 14, but even I can see the value in vision on the map. Kills don't win the game. Having vision, which subsequently helps you get kills, which then helps you takes objectives, wins the games. What even bothers me more is that everyone takes the free trinket, but then they don't even use that. Is it really that hard to press 4 and click a spot in a bush to drop the ward as you're walking by every 2 minutes? Blows my mind.