Is it intended that Zed's counter causes you to die anyway?

PubgamerAU·4/15/2015, 4:03:28 PM·1 votes·820 views

I understand that Zhonya's is Zeds 'biggest counter', however I'm kind of concerned that the mere use of a Zhonya's in any situation that doesn't involve your team already winning, just means you're going to die 2.5 seconds later.

I think Zhonya's needs to be changed from 'stasis' to the same kind of active as Mercurial. Forcing your character to be unable to take any action for 2.5s just puts you out of position and does nothing but delay your death by 2.5s.

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Colgate Gator4/15/2015, 4:14:13 PM6 votes

You do understand that the whole point of Zonhya's stasis is to negate his whole ultimate, right? I don't get what you're going on about.

Zed's death mark lasts for 3 seconds, just activate the zonhya half a second after that and the bomb will go off without doing any damage, hell, you can even miss the timing, and since the ult's damage is based in how much he does while you have it, the bomb will go off and do minimal damage.

Zonhya is already so powerful at the moment, what you're suggesting is outright breaking the item, talk about counterplay. If you were caught out of position when Zed ulted you, then that isn't the item's fault, but yours.

BerserkGoldfish4/15/2015, 5:13:09 PM3 votes

that's what being out of position is. im fairly certain already being surrounded by his team is out of position, unless youre like sejuani.

ıron4/15/2015, 5:16:32 PM3 votes

"I think Zhonya's needs to be changed from 'stasis' to the same kind of active as Mercurial. "

That's a huge nerf. Zhonya is extremely powerful. Learn to use it properly.

Colgate Gator4/15/2015, 5:11:37 PM2 votes

If you're factoring the enemy team, then you aren't talking just about Zonhya and Zed.

You should consider your team in the situation as well, as they shouldn't leave you behind when the stasis ends, if you're playing a squishy mage (which I assume you are if we're talking about Zonhya) then stand in the backline.

If Zed really tries to use all his gapclosers to murder you, he should fail and die to your team while you Zonhya, worst case scenario he R's out of there but since you're at the backline the enemy team shouldn't be able to pick you off just like that.

Eleshakai4/16/2015, 11:52:21 AM1 votes

I'll be blunt... if you're in a position to be surrounded in just 2.5 seconds... you were out of position.