A Rioter: PLEASE ANSWER THIS RIDDLE

FarRockBF··35 votes·1,705 views

Four people on my team all called top and because of the was it loads at diff times for each player all think they called first. So they all lock. I'm the noble one who dodges so we don't have the most toxic game ever.

Since you invented this dumb penalty system, explain to me; WHAT SHOULD I HAVE DONE? And if I did the right thing why are you punishing me for it?

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Raw21 votes

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FarRockBF3 votes

[{quoted}](name=G R E A T E S T,realm=NA,application-id=cIfEodbz,discussion-id=KnJdr3UX,comment-id=0007,timestamp=2015-04-08T07:35:01.480+0000)

Look at the bright side, you guys was gonna win top lane.

I doubt it

test account5 votes

Enemy Quadra Kill! [All]RivenWaifuplayer2002: lol gg ez im a dimand smurf

MeleeNuke1 votes

What happened to FACT?

Eleshakai4 votes

The reality is, dodging needs a penalty. The penalty is very minor assuming you don't do it often - 5 minutes and 3 LP - but it is necessary. If there is no penalty for dodging, then you might as well have a 5 minute penalty on EVERY game because it takes like 10 times as long for games to start. They've tested it before. If there's no penalty, people will dodge if ANYTHING looks even the slightest bit imperfect to their eyes - and everyone has a different vision of 'perfect' which means that the odds of SOMEONE in the game not liking the way it looks are very high.

And if anyone dodges, well, back to the queue for everyone.

EL HAMSTERO3 votes

if there is no penalty for dodging, im dodging every game until I get blue side. I hate red. everything is upside down.

Kazaashi3 votes

I'd rather the 15 min wait for my next queue than spend 20-30 minutes of hell in the game. At least I can make a sandwich and look at some porn in the mean time. lol.

BronzeVOnly2 votes

PLUS FUCKING ONE!

FarRockBF2 votes

So much potential to be a good company, but that cannot fix the simple things people have been begging for since the game we created...

Yandere Carry1 votes

you act like riot isn't already a hugely successful company.

bunies1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Tang Bohu,realm=NA,application-id=cIfEodbz,discussion-id=KnJdr3UX,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2015-04-08T15:25:00.307+0000)

you act like riot isn't already a hugely successful company.

well hell so is the catholic church, having idiots hand over thier money to you has always been a good business model

Trash MammaI2 votes

Keep playing dealing with snot-nosed 13 year old brats who will probably rage/flame the entire game making it a highly unfun experience for you and cost you a win while also having your reports mean nothing as you hit the play again button only to have the same thing happen as Riot develops a new skin for Ahri

Yandere Carry1 votes

how old are you

BLU Medic2 votes

Ah, the never-ending choice between being put into a low priority queue and wasting 20+ minutes of your life playing a game with horrible team mates.

Jubbinaut6 votes

Dodge penalty =/= Low Priority Queue.

PoisonedPeace1 votes

I got low priority the only time I dodged this season?

What are the circumstances for not getting low priority queue from dodging?

Eleshakai3 votes

{quoted}

I got low priority the only time I dodged this season?

What are the circumstances for not getting low priority queue from dodging?

You never get low priority queue for dodging. You just get a 1 time delay on your next game.

PoisonedPeace1 votes

Hmm it must have been a duo partner or 5s team or something. It was a few months ago.

Do you get low priority from afk/dc?

Eleshakai3 votes

{quoted}

Hmm it must have been a duo partner or 5s team or something. It was a few months ago.

Do you get low priority from afk/dc?

Leaverbuster is the system that hands out low priority queues, indeed. It treats afks as another form of 'leave' on your record, and leaves result in low priority queues. But it only cares about what happens AFTER the game starts.

I believe I recall reading something about them also adding a caveat to teambuilder where if you kick too many people from a lobby or reject too many lobbies you may get a delay slapped onto your game... but I am too lazy to fact-check at this point in time so I could be wrong.

Jubbinaut1 votes

Thanks for covering for me! :P

They did mention... something like that, re: Team Builder. I don't remember the specifics of it, though, nor even where to look for them.

Kubox1 votes

There is a "delay" in Team builder. But not a big one. I'm talking about a 15 sec delay after 20 kicks.

To be more precise, the delay racks up. You get 3 seconds at 5 kicks, 5 at 7, etc. Not much of a pain though.

Jubbinaut1 votes

Ah, thank you kindly!

Sounds like a pretty typical system for Riot - issuing small deterrents scaling into larger ones as it continues.

SmknWdl2 votes

DUMBASS lol no you did the right thing fuck those guys. But I personally would've gone with it and had an all top push comp and just seen what would've happened. I mean it's normals right? Ranked hell no I'm dodgin but like in normals i woulda just gone with it for the lolz. XD Also I totally agree that the riot penalty system is horrible atm and needs to be changed.

Ligerzz1 votes

Dammit.

Thought i would be able to solve it, but it seems highly unlikely >:(

WolfBV1 votes

Go top lane with them all as a support! :D

junglerboy161 votes

That is when you say "5 top? count me in!" and proceed to base race the enemy team with teleport spam to kill all the towers.

But seriously, pulling a crazy stunt like that can win you games if the other team isn't prepared for it.

WyvernEgg1 votes

You should have played teambuilder. heheheh

Axests1 votes

obviously you go 5 top and pubstomp their poor top laner

Narsicus1 votes

Think about it for a moment, if there were no penalties to dodging then people would be leaving left and right the moment that anything happened that slightly lowered their perceived chances of winning. At the moment there is relatively little drawback, but enough to incentivize people to work something out instead of jumping ship if someone picks a champ that wasn't played in LCS recently.

Of course there are always going to be those who do not want to work with other people, who want a specific champ in a specific lane and woe to any who try to suggest otherwise. But this is a team game and working with others, even those you may not like, is something that you are going to have to do.

If you do not like the idea of your enjoyment in League being dependent on 4 other random people I would have to suggest either playing with friends or playing a game that is not a team based strategy. But remember in the end that your enjoyment and you satisfaction come down to you alone, you can have fun trying out strange different team comps (and honestly a 5 man push strategy is far from uncommon, its won quite a few competitive games) and you can even have fun while losing if you put yourself in the right mind set.

So with that in mind what I would have done is pick a champ that synergizes with a super push strategy but could also help the team keep it up, like Alistar with his team heals and his ability to tower dive. Then you make like Nunu Bot and push the lanes to your hearts content.

Saint Archer1 votes

instead, rito, how about you fix this stupid system that we've been telling you to fix for YEARS

Ariel the Cruel1 votes

if there were no punishments for dodging, there would be very few games played [these days]. They would have to review each instance of dodging to determine if it was justified or not. Which is far to resource intensive (their report system is finicky enough).

Unfortunately, the most efficient system is to issue small punishments for each occurrence. This ensures people don't make a habit of it, while still minimizing the long-term impact of the punishment.

AJStarhiker1 votes

A few seasons ago, they tried removing the elo/lp penalty and increased the time. Every one from bottom of bronze up to pro players said the time spent waiting for a game to start was unacceptable. And a single dodge could shift someone from "I have time for 1 game" to "I don't have time to finish a game". They set it back to low time + point penalties.

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