When you get mid, tips?

Hethalean··1 votes·306 views

I normally Support main (used to getting it), but decided to put my carry pants on. I am trying to get jungle so I usually put Mid (thinking since it's always +1000% wait time I'll never get it) BUUUUUUUT if I do get it, who plays well into Zed (assuming he's not banned, he seems to get picked a lot). Just had a game where I was thankfully Mid FIRST pick... so I tried Ziggs (thinking I could safely farm). All it took was 1 kill for Zed (which he pretty much is guaranteed to get it seems after 6, just R onto you, AA and his other abilities means he can just portal back to safety with maybe 1 tower shot). I thought I was doing well until then and then it was just non stop deaths. Just felt helpless during it as well.

Tips? Ziggs a really awful mid pick? Is Zhonya's an effective counter right now? I know they lowered the Armor and AP on it (meaning you don't really tank as well as you used to and you're not returning damage nearly as well and Zed R cooldown is a lot shorter than Zhonya's anyway).

A couple times I just immediately tried ultimating myself as soon as he jumped on me, but seemed like he was able to do enough damage to kill me with ult and shadow jump out before my ult landed.

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oSEXYPLATYPUSo2 votes

vs an ad assassin like Zed Yasuo champs like Lissandra Kayle Lulu are safe picks Swain is decent some consider him a counter to Yasuo . Annie is some what safe. some skill match ups would be Ahri Leblanc Viktor

Hethalean1 votes

I own Lulu and Kayle. Though Kayle scares me. I didn't pick Lulu because the round of nerfs after nerfs she took a while ago wasn't sure where she was at power wise.

Thanks! I'll try Annie/Viktor (I'm garbage at Ahri/LB)

oSEXYPLATYPUSo2 votes

also you i dont know what kind of runes u are running if u know u are facing and ad mid laner like zed or yasou it might be a good idea to have a page set up vs ad... for example

flat magic pen reds.... armor yellos, ap quints, and either ap per lvl blues, cdr blues.

and don t be afraid if u need to go a mastery page of 18-0-12 or 0-18-12 puting that lil bit of points in the last tree can make the laning phase slightly easier by being just a bit more durable. plz the extra cdr on summoners is nice that means you can them more often.

also vs champs like that taking summoner 3 summoner 4 will help alot in limiting their damage in all in trades

summoner 14 summoner 4 if u think u can kill and be safe in lane

summoner 12 summoner 4 if u think you are gonna have to back early and need to get items to survive

summoner 21 summoner 4 is ok and if you really worried summoner 7 summoner 4

Hethalean1 votes

I went Heal Flash, but I should have taken Barrier since he took Ignite.

oSEXYPLATYPUSo2 votes

also getting an early item 3157 can be the different of a even or loss lane

Hethalean1 votes

Ah cool, i was wondering if Zhonya's was still a good choice with it's changes or nerfs or whatever it was.

Curious Kat2 votes

Ward and learn to freeze lanes, the further you get them to go up, the easier it is to set up a gank, stealth wards cost 75g, use them, ward both sides of the river.

For champs that have big Ad like Zed, Talon, Yas, barrier is a great choice, or even exhaust would be okay.

Worse comes to worse, just don't die, and farm under your turret till you get some help, whatever you do, don't feed the mid laner, it'll make it harder for your bot lane when the enemy mid lane can freely roam, and you can't chase because they got fed and you got behind.

Also, try to find balance in roaming and laning, it's always a hard decision to roam and help a lane, or to push your turret.

Hethalean1 votes

Thanks for the tips! However, I was trying to farm under tower and he'd just tower dive and get the kill thanks to the damage on his R. I guess it didn't help the jungle never ganked even though I blew his flash 2 or 3 times before 6, and he was always pushed up. Thanks again though! Mid lane is super intimidating to me.

oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votes

yea ziggs is not great vs gap closers with burst like zed, you did ok. according to kda/cs ect but would of been better with another champ vs zed. and i would of tried to have item 3157 by lvl 6 then work on the other items.

Hethalean1 votes

Thanks! I was first pick, and it was my first mid game in over a year. I was not sure who to pick. :) Thanks! I'll try to remember to get Zhonya's first against more AD Assassins (like you mentioned earlier Yasuo/Talon/Zed etc)! :)

50000000000000001 votes

If you're a support main, I'd suggest Lux. She has long range and a shield, which helps you survive against assassins. If you fall behind, you can just play her like a support, too, since she's a decent support. Lulu is an alternative.

oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votes

lux is typically bad vs ad assassins like Khazix Talon Zed Yasuo she is weak to champs that can gap close and burst her

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