"If it's not about kills, what is it about?"

EkkoFroffles··2 votes·511 views

Was jungling Amumu. Top it was Renekton vs. MonkeyKing . Renek fed horribly, finishing 1/9/2. He kept pushing lane, didn't ward (1 ward placed), and was building Ravenous Hydra as his first non-boots item. I had to kindly ask him at one point to please not push lane and just last hit instead. He wasn't being toxic and blaming his team like many would in that situation, though, so I can't get that mad at him. In fact, he didn't even call for assistance at any point during the match. He was completely silent. No comments in chat. No pings. I kept heading that way to help, but either he'd die before I got there or Wu would back off and head elsewhere.

Wu finished 16/3/7, absolutely wrecking us. Not much that any of us could've done once he got fed, especially since it was MissFortune Renekton Thresh Lux Amumu vs. Sejuani MonkeyKing TwistedFate Nautilus Graves . Anytime I'd try to go in to CC them so my team could follow up I would get hit with all their CC myself and get melted before anyone actually could follow up.

Lost cause or not, though, I noticed at one point that my pink ward at blue buff was the lone ward on the map and I said "just an honest question: why am I the only one with a ward out?" Our MissFortune said "I have 6 kills and I haven't warded." I explained that this game isn't about kills ("this isn't COD"), but rather objectives. I was promptly told to "screw off." I feel I should mention that I could ping MIA and then the entire path of someone's roam and it was still never enough for them to run for their lives. So I'm not sure if wards would've changed much of anything, but maybe actually seeing the enemies on the map for themselves would've helped at least a little.

After the match, our MF was still talking, asking me the question you can see in the title. I reiterated that it's about objectives. She asked me, with a heavy dose of sarcasm, if I'd gotten any, to which I replied that I couldn't seeing as, you know, they were crazy fed and it was GG from very early on. I mention that wards could've helped stem the bleeding, making it harder for them to catch us out with their roams, and she tells me "it's not my job to ward. i'm the adc." She then says I should've warded more. I tell her I bought wards every back (well, almost; item 2043 on my 2nd, item 2044 on my 3rd, 2 item 2044 on my 4th, item 2044 on my 5th, and 2 more item 2044 on my 7th). "Clearly it wasn't enough," she says. I, typing in all caps at this point because the stupidity is just too overwhelming, say "IT'S EVERYONE'S JOB TO WARD."

Her next response was "I did well and I didn't ward." She finished 7/5/4. I point out that, in actuality, she didn't do that well because she kept resetting her bounty, giving them more gold (most notably shut down gold), and ask if she even understands how this game works... then leave the post-game chat because I'm fed up. She sends me a friend request soon thereafter, presumably to argue with me some more, but I don't take the bait.

I just... I just can't take people in this game sometimes.

10 Comments

rockdalian2 votes

They give free trinkets with250 to upgrade and nobody uses them except support mains it's really sad some people will never get better at the game

EkkoFroffles1 votes

Lux said, and I quote, "I don't have any wards" in response to my question about why there were no wards out. "You have your trinket," I said.

Rubbery Skrub3 votes

This. The stealth ward upgrade alone is enough to keep 3 wards constantly out.

rockdalian1 votes

I know it blows my mind how many times I get flamed cuz there's not enough wards and you look round baron and enemy blue/red I got all 3 wards out plus a pink and I'm not doing enough warding cuz they got baron it's a joke really pink yellow or sweeping Idc just do something useful with trinkets lol

Drunk Rummate2 votes

Some games cannot be won. Fighting an uphill battle in chat against people like that will do nothing but stress you out. You just have to let it go sometimes.

DoctorSpaceDog1 votes

Haha, what a story Mark!

EkkoFroffles1 votes

Mark?

Dryditch1 votes

YOU'RE TEARING ME APART, LISAAAAAAAAH!

Gwellaouen1 votes

Where's was the support in all this ? Has he bought a sightstone ? Health on Thresh is good too. Happened to me too. When I jungle, I can find myself the only one warding. (Even when I adc but that's another story ^^') Ok ... Even the support don't ward. XD'''

But for the problem top-lane, it's the responsibiity of the jungler to try helping that lane.

I imagine the jungler as the big leader of the team. He who can decides watever he wants to do from pressurize a lane when the laner not there to ganking and taking objectives (dragon, turret etc). As a jungler, I am learning to have eyes everywhere and try to take the right decision.

An example here : Ok, Wukong beginning to get fed but we are at 10 minutes mark. They might want dragon soon. I could get a dragon by ganking bot-lane and boost the strenght of my top-laner telling him to just farm under turret for now. Something like that. I had to do this in one game because of a Singed who got problems against a Tryndamere. He shut down the Trynd with my help at one point. Yeah, the game was won.

Jungler is so hard to do because one decision might not be the right one but I like it when I make the right ones.

EkkoFroffles1 votes

Apparently he did not buy a sight stone. His item purchase order was as follows. He did at least place 5 wards, though. I placed 5 (couldn't place my last 2 greens prior to dying and the match ending due to surrender soon thereafter). Lux placed 2 and MissFortune 4, which I find odd considering MF in particular was boasting about not placing any.

To your other points, I am still learning as a jungler, admittedly, and Renekton seemed beyond help to me. He never did stop pushing lane out... by himself... with his first turret down... with no wards on that side of the map... and with all of them a quick jaunt away in mid lane. I could've tried coaching him further, but when he wasn't following my initial instructions, nor even giving me any sort of response, I didn't see the point. That and I lost all faith in him when he seemingly suicided, stepping away from our bot inhib turret and running towards the crazy fed Wu and another one of his teammates (forget who) for yet another death.

I also tried to help elsewhere, but we simply didn't have the damage and were too squishy to come out on top in any team fight. I went 1/6/5 and, in order to get that kill, I had to bypass 2 of them to get to and shut down Wu, knowing I'd die for my trouble. The assists all came in similar situations where I insert myself into the middle of things and give our opponents literally everything I had, including my life, to give my team any chance at surviving long enough to pick up kills.

Trust me, I know I have room to improve as a jungler. I won't debate you or anyone else on that. But this is one of those matches I personally write off in my head as a lost cause in spite of the knowledge that I made my share of mistakes in it. They had the advantage before the match even started with their team comp, and what little chance we had of winning in spite of having the disadvantage there died swiftly with Renek, as I was all we had left for a front line, leaving them free to focus me and then clean up the rest after I was dead.

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