League of Legends is still the most popular game in the world

LOL Spammer·Feb 2, 2016·75 votes·5,730 views

I'm pretty sure if it wasn't fun than people would stop playing. Like I understand that you don't like some specific ideas. There are about 130 champions in league and we complain mostly about like what, 10? If that? That means that over 120 other champions are fun balanced and people enjoy playing or playing against. 27 Million people play league. I think that more than a couple thousand people would be complaining if something was so wrong that it made the game unplayable. I will repeat that stat. #27 Million People That is almost 3 times as many people that live in New York. This game is fun and don't you deny it. People play it for a reason. Because it is fun, interesting, and addictive. There are way to many hate threads on these boards. Can't we show Riot some respect? They made an amazing game for us. Maybe if we didn't bitch and moan every time they changed something they might actually listen to us.

Thanks for listening, Spammer out.

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Virgin RayFeb 2, 201618 votes

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Billy VoHagenFeb 2, 201616 votes

[{quoted}](name=LOL Spammer,realm=NA,application-id=cIfEodbz,discussion-id=9cWIc3In,comment-id=,timestamp=2016-02-02T02:24:30.562+0000) Because it is fun, interesting, and addictive.

Too be fair, that's also why people do drugs.

Jungle Lux GodFeb 3, 20162 votes

Are you implying that League of Legends isn't a drug?

YoungFarmerFeb 2, 201614 votes

I'd say about 10 champions are op, 75 are at different stages of viability and the rest are unplayable (If you care about winning).

FortisDominusFeb 2, 20166 votes

^ pretty much this, although most people on the boards would usually say something stupid and ignorant like "all champions are viable, the only reason why you complain they are bad is because you suck at the game"

MKDkillaFeb 2, 20161 votes

Going through the list, I found only 8 who are truly shit right now:

Aatrox Akali Khazix Mordekaiser Syndra Taric Teemo Yorick

4 of these are in line for a rework. That's truly it.

Spaceman5pffFeb 2, 20166 votes

I will fight tooth and nail to tell ppl Kha isn't TRULY shit. I mean yeah is pretty weak compared to Talon / Zed. But I still find I can go off on a rampage in about half the games I play with him.

Being real tho, Kha is not that great.

137434Feb 2, 20162 votes

Taric is nowhere near shit.

Boring? Yes, for some people. Binary? Definitely. But shit? nope.

NichtHurzFeb 3, 20161 votes

He excels in a few matchups, but just becomes dowright useless in lots of others. Don't get me wrong, I absolutely love Taric, especially when I get the chance to drive Riven mains mad in the top lane, but while I just stomp through some enemy teams many others just destroy me without a chance to fight back. It's not even about having a bad game or something, I consistently win against a few team comps and feel completely useless vs lots of other team comps.

137434Feb 3, 20161 votes

I agree, but that doesn't make him shit. It makes him niche.

iainB85Feb 2, 201614 votes

So your argument is that because a lot of people still play the game we shouldn't reach out to the company on their own boards when we don't like the direction the game is taking?

I really don't see the point of this post at all.

TransgressorFeb 2, 20164 votes

It's very interesting if you think about it.

Perhaps, OP has too much free time on their hands?

LOL SpammerFeb 2, 20166 votes

Not to get passive aggressive, but you've spent almost double the amount of time on league as I have.

TransgressorFeb 2, 20164 votes

Do you see me making dumb posts on the forums?

LOL SpammerFeb 2, 20166 votes

And why is this a dumb post?

MrryZFeb 2, 20164 votes

I think his point is that your post is discouraging people from telling riot why certain champions/mechanics etc are unfun and should be changed therefore directing the game into a much more community based one rather than just what the devs say goes. For example if people like Malicious Metal were to just say that other aspects of the game were fun and leave riot to deal with Mordekaiser on their own they would likely have taken a route which left no one happy but instead took the advice of the community leading to everyone being happy. It kinda depends on how people view your post as, yes there is a lot of people raging on the boards about supposedly op champions but there are also quite a lot of genuine posts trying to direct riot to a better future for the game which should probably be centred around the players as they are often the best source of knowledge of the game.

LOL SpammerFeb 3, 20163 votes

The difference between Malicious Metal and other people is that riot respects Malicious because Malicious respects riot. He isn't yelling at them in a rude or unsportsmanlike manner like most. One of the main problems is that the posts that get the most popularity most of the time are just downright rude.

I'll go to the "Hot" section of boards and find a couple that are rude just off the hot section. http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/ahOigWaw-please-disable-new-champs-in-ranked http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/EmnhE4Yd-good-lord-the-ryze-nerf http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/FAqKkxRN-if-this-shit-gonna-pass-pbe etc. There are so many rude posts calling riot out and people expect them to just reply like everyone hasn't hated on them. Like people make backhand comments like,

[{quoted}](name=Nubilis Nox,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=FAqKkxRN,comment-id=0008,timestamp=2016-02-01T18:31:32.311+0000)

"Hey guys, we noticed a bug that was allowing players to have fun in League of Legends, but don't worry we think this Xin Zhao change will fix that."

--rito

This is so stupid and should get removed. This isn't what Riot thinks! They are trying to make the game better, not worse. People need to understand that maybe if we were respectful of them they would listen to us.

MrryZFeb 3, 20161 votes

Definitely, your point is valid but the message was a little vague. :/ I agree that people need to stop calling riot out on balance issues and instead tell them why it's not a great direction for the game to go in in a respectful calm manner clearly outlining points and providing evidence, such as Malicious Metal. Anyways your post was sorely needed as the spam of "X champion is op" is almost unbearable so good job :D

Spacesuit SpiffFeb 2, 20163 votes

More like "stop panicking and saying a change nobody will even notice is gonna be the death of the game"

YCitizenSnipsYFeb 3, 20161 votes

Well people on these boards like to make "teh sky is falling" threads every time a balance change comes out that isn't popular. Then randomly assert that game is dying and everyone hates it, even though these post get a couple hundred replies at most.

Like lets be real here, just on NA alone everyone has access to these boards via client. How many even bother though? It kinda of ridiculous that because a handful of people on these boards don't like something to say that the game is going in the wrong direction.

Only Play DariusFeb 2, 201613 votes

Yea, people sometimes forget that League has far and away the fairest free-to-play model in the business. No pay-to-win gimmicks, no oppressive progression system (by free2play standards), high quality premium content you genuinely want to spend money on, (i'm probably going to get shit for saying this) they do a pretty good job of keeping 90% of the roster well balanced and at least acknowledge power creep and make efforts to combat it, where many other game companies ignore it or outright abuse it to generate profits at the cost of game integrity.

RagnarokaerisFeb 2, 20163 votes

that last thing.. Poor blizzard.. Light years away from riot's devs

Spaceman5pffFeb 2, 20162 votes

TFW I can't make truly competitive decks bc I didn't pay for Sludge Belcher Amumu

killd0zerFeb 2, 20164 votes

Dota 2's F2P is objectively superior. And I'm a League player

Only Play DariusFeb 2, 20163 votes

I agree, DOTA is also a great free to play, but Valve has far more moneymakers than Riot so can afford to give champions away for free

NeonocyteFeb 2, 20164 votes

The ability of one company to make something that another cannot does not invalidate the quality of the former's product.
Path of Exile, made by a startup company as its only income source and still around 3 years later, operates on a very similar model to Dota 2.

WoonStruckFeb 2, 201611 votes

I'm okay with most of what Riot's done.

What I'm not okay with is them completely changing the way SR plays in a way that makes objectives less important. Its so easy to get towers now that they aren't really all that meaningful anymore.

Dragon doesn't really matter much anymore.

Baron isn't as important as its been in the past. If you win a teamfights, you can usually just take out an inhibitor or their nexus instead of taking Baron. Because of that, its a throw option more than ever now.

LOL SpammerFeb 2, 20162 votes

But can you say that you actually don't enjoy playing anymore? I don't care about the details. This game is very fun and there is nothing else to say. They are coming out with new unique champions that are really fun to play, they do every little thing here and there for us. I don't understand why everyone seems to think that Riot is the enemy. They are our friends. We should ask them in a respectful manner, giving good points and not being passive aggressive or straight out aggressive. People need to understand what is ok to do and what is not.

WoonStruckFeb 2, 20163 votes

[{quoted}](name=LOL Spammer,realm=NA,application-id=cIfEodbz,discussion-id=9cWIc3In,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2016-02-02T02:33:16.773+0000)

But can you say that you actually don't enjoy playing anymore? I don't care about the details. This game is very fun and there is nothing else to say. They are coming out with new unique champions that are really fun to play, they do every little thing here and there for us. I don't understand why everyone seems to think that Riot is the enemy. They are our friends. We should ask them in a respectful manner, giving good points and not being passive aggressive or straight out aggressive. People need to understand what is ok to do and what is not.

I never said I don't enjoy playing. The conclusions of games just aren't as fulfilling as they used to be. Laning and mid-game are what I enjoy and they're relatively similar. Late-game almost doesn't exist, and if it does, its usually significantly lopsided due to the current state of balance. Based on picks/bans and nothing to do with strategy.

Riot is definitely not the enemy, but there are certain things they could address that would make more people happy than the amount that would be upset.

On the aggressive point, many people are far too aggressive or passive-aggressive against Riot. That's partially just the state of the community, and partially the entitled attitude that's been developing among societies in general in regards to service-customer relations.

Spaceman5pffFeb 2, 20163 votes

He wasn't accusing you of saying it wasn't fun. He was proving his point that while you DO disagree with balance and design choices, you STILL FIND IT FUN.

hopeful4Feb 2, 20163 votes

Baron isn't as important as its been in the past

Wtf.... Anti waveclear buff is one of the strongest buffs in the game. Have you seen any pro games? How most teams wait for Baron in order to close them?

StillnameFeb 2, 20161 votes

Dragon is getting a buff next patch so we will see if that bumps up the importance but Baron?

I have yet to take a Baron cleanly (aka not get mugged while doing it and Baron throw) and not take at least 2 towers or an inhib off of it. Even with random players.

WoonStruckFeb 2, 20161 votes

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Dragon is getting a buff next patch so we will see if that bumps up the importance but Baron?

I have yet to take a Baron cleanly (aka not get mugged while doing it and Baron throw) and not take at least 2 towers or an inhib off of it. Even with random players.

My issue with the buffs is that it pushes objective control, letting you starve your opponents more because you can just force objectives better...that's what Baron's supposed to do.

Dragon is becoming a permanent Baron Buff in theme now, which isn't interesting either.

StillnameFeb 3, 20161 votes

For me it means that dragon 4 is a win condition and I like that. Too many people were just ignoring dragon or taking it as an afterthought but now it is an objective worth fighting over (in theory). The pace of the game sped up which meant that dragon 5 was rarely relevant but dragon 4 is much more obtainable.

I do agree though the way they buffed dragon is a little... silly?... can't think of the right word for it but I would have liked to see them just drop 4th dragon buff and move dragon 5 up to dragon 4 instead of just giving away easy tower dives. But I guess I will have to see how it plays out in practice.

La BarbotteFeb 2, 201610 votes

no, because its addictive, league stopped being fun a while ago, but we dont want to play anything else because maybe next game will be fun like the old days, and we keep telling ourselves that

hopeful4Feb 2, 20163 votes

Whos ''we''? You?

La BarbotteFeb 2, 20163 votes

i feel like its like that for most of the community nowadays

slippykittenFeb 2, 20169 votes

You're missing a really important element of this. Popularity does not equal quality.

COD made some pretty cool games, therefore, they became popular, then they ran their brand into the depths of hell. Popularity continued not because of the quality, but because it was a familiar game that everyone's friends were playing.

WOW was an ingenious MMORPG that was superior in quality than the few other games that were even in the same genre at the time. So WOW became popular. WOW then released several soulless expansions, even going as far as to let players skip the entire game just to get to the end. WOW remained popular because people had invested thousands of hours and had become addicted. It is on it's way out now though.

League's quality cannot be determined by its popularity, as oftentimes popularity leads to companies believing they can do whatever they want and retain their playerbase. League will most likely fall into the same trap. It was made as a quality alternative to dota, and did a darn good job and was a heck of a lot of fun. So they became popular. Now everyone has invested thousands of hours and have all their friends playing the game, but honestly, the game is not nearly as fun as it once was. Riot has also gone the way of believing they can make any changes they desire and retain their playerbase.

Really the only question is how long league will remain a quality game, because its popularity will continue long after it loses its soul and becomes crap.

WoonStruckFeb 2, 20163 votes

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You're missing a really important element of this. Popularity does not equal quality.

COD made some pretty cool games, therefore, they became popular, then they ran their brand into the depths of hell. Popularity continued not because of the quality, but because it was a familiar game that everyone's friends were playing.

WOW was an ingenious MMORPG that was superior in quality than the few other games that were even in the same genre at the time. So WOW became popular. WOW then released several soulless expansions, even going as far as to let players skip the entire game just to get to the end. WOW remained popular because people had invested thousands of hours and had become addicted. It is on it's way out now though.

League's quality cannot be determined by its popularity, as oftentimes popularity leads to companies believing they can do whatever they want and retain their playerbase. League will most likely fall into the same trap. It was made as a quality alternative to dota, and did a darn good job and was a heck of a lot of fun. So they became popular. Now everyone has invested thousands of hours and have all their friends playing the game, but honestly, the game is not nearly as fun as it once was. Riot has also gone the way of believing they can make any changes they desire and retain their playerbase.

Really the only question is how long league will remain a quality game, because its popularity will continue long after it loses its soul and becomes crap.

And this is what the fanboys keep denying. They keep saying that Riot's right and we're just 'haters' when we just don't want to see one of our favorite games die.

If WoW, the single most unified MMO that revolutionized the market, wasn't immune to this trap, why the hell would LoL, the single most unified MOBA that revolutionized the market, be?

Riot needs to change their direction now before its too late. Pushing away the dedicated, passionate veteran players and catering to casual play in a competitive game is the first step to this slippery slope downward...

TheDiffFeb 3, 20161 votes

Wait...so you think Riot should start catering to casual players and push away the dedicated ones? Because that is what WoW did after their second expac (Wrath of the Lich King) and it went down hill after Cataclysm. I'm sorry, I didn't really understand that last little bit.

WoonStruckFeb 3, 20162 votes

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Wait...so you think Riot should start catering to casual players and push away the dedicated ones? Because that is what WoW did after their second expac (Wrath of the Lich King) and it went down hill after Cataclysm. I'm sorry, I didn't really understand that last little bit.

Oh, no I meant that that's what Riot IS doing, not what they should do. Casuals net them the most income, but also react positively to most changes, even if they're negative in direction, with little regard to the actual state of the game. So many different games have proven this, however, it leads to a decline in quality, which eventually kills them as they push that.

A Miss FortuneFeb 2, 20166 votes

The game is great but the way Riot is changing it has significantly dropped my interest. Before the pre-season I loved the game for how it revolved around strategy and outsmarting your opponent. Now the game is basically won by team who got first blood. Riot also made the LCS very boring to watch, even the analysts make comments about how boring League is for most matches. Teams simply play defensively the entire game because one kill is all it takes to snowball out of control and win the game.

Arcade AndrewFeb 2, 20163 votes

What are you comparing league to? It's nowhere near as popular as GTA or call of duty..?

Hell even runescape and WOW are more notable than league

LTK OblivionFeb 2, 20168 votes

Call of duty is a braindead game literally designed for children, the only reason it's so well known is mainly because of all the kids that used to play it. I also used to play it during any spare time i had, but once i got to the age of 16 i completely grew out of it and realised what garbage i have been playing all these years. Also cod barely gets 2 million people across all platforms while league has 27 million on one. The main reason why all the games you listed are well known is because everyone at least played one of those games once in there life but they either got bored of them or grew up. League on the other hand has consistent players and millions of daily players, the only reason lol isn't recognised as much as those games is simply because riot dosen't advertise their game anywhere,but cod and gta always launch trailers of their game every single time a new game is added to their franchise.

Arcade AndrewFeb 2, 20162 votes

You realize call of duty had much more players worldwide right..? Again I asked what are you comparing it to. League doesn't have that many players tbh

darkmatchwaldoFeb 2, 20163 votes

"League doesn't have that many players tbh"

league of legends has 27 million players that log in on a daily basis. so uh. yeah.

WoonStruckFeb 2, 20162 votes

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"League doesn't have that many players tbh"

league of legends has 27 million players that log in on a daily basis. so uh. yeah.

And you think WoW wasn't as popular before they made themselves crash and burn?

LoL is heading down the exact same road, and, just like with WoW, the fanboys will fight everyone stating this, tooth and nail, saying that "if its not fun, just leave" and other things while they simply ignore the problems.

RoodToobFeb 3, 20161 votes

As hours played, league is i think slightly over half, but at its peak wow only had 12 million subs (or players) granted it is a sub model so its harder for them to get players i suppose

TheDiffFeb 2, 20161 votes

I actually saw an ad for league of legends the other day. Not on websites like normal, but on tv. I was shocked.

RoBin Ur Ho0dFeb 3, 20162 votes

It's not 27 million people playing, they are counting accounts. most people have 2 to 10 accounts on average so the real number isn't even close to 27 minion. If they go people's ip, ip changes all the time if they aren't static.. so either way 27 million is not accurate.