This soft reset wasn't so soft apparently

Xonra·1/22/2015, 4:18:03 AM·33 votes·8,810 views

So I ended the season with 100 lp with first win in my promo to silver 4. I just went 7/3 in my promos and got put in bronze 2.

I wasn't bronze the entire Season 4....how the hell did it put me in bronze 2? That doesn't even make any sense. How can I start in Silver, go actually pretty good (7-3 is far from bad especially since I had won 5 in a row to end) and I still get played in bronze. How? Like this makes me not even want to bother playing.

tl:dr So demoralizing to do good (7-3 in promos is good) and get punished for it.

94 Comments

Azler1/22/2015, 6:39:27 AM16 votes

It is NOT the number of games you win, it is the quality of the PLAYERS you beat. If you win or lose to a team of 4 Bronze and 1 Plat, those 4 Bronze are going to affect your MMR more than that 1 Plat did.

Also, losses are going to hurt more than the amount that winning gains you. Why? Because of the belief that it would be better to be put in a slightly worse rank that you could easily climb out of due to you being better than to accidentally put you in a rank actually way out of your experience and you just drop anyways.

Lastly, the guy who said it a while ago was right, your first couple games matter more than your last ones. Your early ones pinpoint your MMR to where you should be, your later ones serve to fine-tune it. Basically put, if your 3 losses were against Bronze players then the game dropped your MMR hard, especially since it was in your first 5.

Riot has said this numerous times lol Honestly, it's smart, I myself would much rather quickly climb out of Bronze than get my ass handed to me in Plat until I'm knocked out or whatever.

Personally I'm waiting a week or two till the diversity of everyone playing has been spread a bit better, after all the people in Plat and above have likely already finished their placements.

Insane Big Pete1/22/2015, 6:04:49 AM9 votes

won 8/10 of my provison bronze V yeah wp riot

Aerothal1/22/2015, 3:53:03 PM8 votes

I was placed in Bronze 2 last season. Took me 25 games to get to silver. Those were actually fun games. If you don't belong in Bronze, you wont stay long. idk what the big deal is, honestly. just suck it up and play your best!

Azhiok1/22/2015, 4:04:51 PM8 votes

I don't understand why some of yall are sooo fixated on your rank. Like if you are in silver the game becomes more fun? And gold is even more fun? Then Plat+ to diamond must be lol heaven? Where everyone has perfect Kda everygame?... No, lemme give you "A for effort" generational kids a reality check. The skill gaps for each tier is painfully noticeable. Trust me if your in bronze/silv-gold or w.E you are placed in is because you are where u belong.

Like the great rockie said. You ain't where you are because of this guy or that guy. Cowards blame others. Can you imagine in a pro interview of any sport where they said the only reason they lost was because of someone else? Learn to be humble or the cold reality of life will.

In bronze to gold 1+ ppl make mistakes back and forth, when you get higher elo you get absolutely dumpstered for the tiniest mechanical / positional error. I'd be willing to bet my bottom dollar all you "bronze" but secretly Plat can't even perfectly c the first 3 creepisode waves in the game. Please do yourself and everyone else a favor. Be real. The only goal every person in solo q should be to get better. Not a stupid border and random numbers that say you are.

Clarro1/22/2015, 4:55:00 AM6 votes

I was s3 last season and I got demoted to b2, 5/5 in promos with a 5 game win streak. Like wtf.

FadingSanity1/22/2015, 5:56:54 AM5 votes

Went 5-5, and got de-ranked back to S4 from S1. All that work and effort I ever put into ranking up has literally just went down the drain.

Now I'm just staring at my client wondering If I should even bother trying to rank up anymore.....

What a fucking piss-off.

Tina Ball1/22/2015, 4:32:51 PM5 votes

Man that's not even bad. Why are you crying? You have to climb like 3 divisions and your back to where you were

Xonra1/22/2015, 4:55:15 AM5 votes

Just had a friend on my list in game that finished his last game since I posted....he only had 4 out of 10 wins. He went from Play to silver 5. He is seriously raging right now on steam.

I don't blame him.

I don't know what the hell Riot was thinking. I honestly don't even want to play anymore. I mean if I grind for what, 2 weeks I MIGHT be back to where I started. This is dumb as hell. I didn't expect to end up in gold or anything but I didn't expect to be lower than I started, that is the worst system idea they've had so far.

46106965_DEL1/22/2015, 9:48:39 AM5 votes

I just posted something similar, I went 8 of 10 in my promos and I was silver 5 last season. I ended up being put in bronze 4 which is complete crap. I am so done with wasting my time grinding out these b.s games.

Aerothal1/22/2015, 8:34:34 PM3 votes

so i just played my first two placements. I played like shit and lost both. I'm going to review those games later and write down my mistakes. losing the first two almost guarantees me a bronze ticket. I dont care though. I know i am better than bronze. its just a starting point.

1011001110001/22/2015, 6:35:34 AM3 votes

Losing one of your first games automatically = silver in Riot logic. Don't even bother finishing if you lose one of them.

Learnding1/22/2015, 7:03:51 AM3 votes

We have to understand Riot Games knows what they are doing. Copy Starcraft 2's system of ranking that was revolved around a 1v1 scenario and place it in a 5v5 environment.

Onegarion1/22/2015, 7:05:09 AM3 votes

Yea go talk to the plats that fell all the way to mid silver. Yours IS a soft reset compared to them.

Vegas Dad1/22/2015, 11:07:01 AM3 votes

I rally despise the soft resetws they are pointless they do nothing but lower EVERYONE rank that is it. So yeah you are b2 and last season you were s4 the master tier guy was dropped to plat....we all stay in the same place relative to each othr and nothing changes. Either they should do a full reset and let us rock ouit a truly fresh start new season, or just dont, this soft reset is truly worthless and accomplishes nothing but providing people false hope that a good start will get them anywhere. You can go 10 win in your promo and you will still be placed lower than you were because it isnt so much a soft reset as simply a scaling down of everyone ranks.

Big Hans1/22/2015, 11:07:34 AM3 votes

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So I ended the season with 100 lp with first win in my promo to silver 4. I just went 7/3 in my promos and got put in bronze 2.

I wasn't bronze the entire Season 4....how the hell did it put me in bronze 2? That doesn't even make any sense. How can I start in Silver, go actually pretty good (7-3 is far from bad especially since I had won 5 in a row to end) and I still get played in bronze. How? Like this makes me not even want to bother playing.

tl:dr So demoralizing to do good (7-3 in promos is good) and get punished for it.

This is a case of you trying to replace Riots reality with your own. You are assuming a system works a specific way when it doesnt.

The idea of a rank reset is that you have to prove that you can climb the ladder again. The season is long enough that even if you can only play 10 games a month you will reach very close to your full potential.

Zyxc1/22/2015, 3:27:09 PM2 votes

They keep you last placement from S4 so all the high ranked people no matter what they do they get placed in the same league. They could literally go 0/10 and not get knocked a tier. While my other account was placed in B5 climb to S2 and got placed in B2. So pretty much placements are shit now

Easyyy1/22/2015, 3:15:00 PM2 votes

Get me some popcorn i love to watch people with low mmr rage.

ImHerVoice1/22/2015, 3:00:25 PM2 votes

your mmr is shit. Thats why you got less. I dropped 5 placements and still got maximum possible seeding placement (plat 1)

Cupkek1/22/2015, 10:38:46 AM2 votes

Won 7/10 games, carried them really, and got placed in Bronze 4.

Was previously Silver 5 since placements in Season 4.

CoCo BoEy1/22/2015, 4:55:31 AM1 votes

From what I heard the first couple games count more then the last couple games? could be wrong but makes sense.