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blacknerdtaku··4 votes·1,383 views

Here is a nice little conversation with the enemy Teemo in the last game i was in. Just a heads up, this dude is a racist. he tries to deny it with every strawman possible and fails miserably... I get that he's probably an alright person, and I'm not even mad with him for it, but what gets me is the very horrible attempts he makes to soften what he said, or reverse the blame back onto black people with some "facts" and the blatant amount of academic dishonesty involved in his attempts. so for that im calling him out.

I'm posting this here for the Amusement of others, as I've already taken the liberty of reporting the guy with that chatlog screen capped. And a warning to racists like this? Watch who you're talking to, you you just may get busted.... by a Black Nerdy Otaku

Ive also taken the liberty of highlighting some of the funniest/dumbest things this man said to me during this chat.

Other Guy: darius was so bad lol BlackNerdTaku: he was bloody terrible BlackNerdTaku: both as a player Other Guy: he only got kills on me cuz sej BlackNerdTaku: and a person BlackNerdTaku: he shit talked all game BlackNerdTaku: also plz report poppy Other Guy: hes probably black, he acts like an ignorant %%%%%% BlackNerdTaku: i think she may have been trolling us Other Guy: what she do? BlackNerdTaku: battle BlackNerdTaku: you knoiw im black riiiight? BlackNerdTaku: he doesnt act like a "%%%%%%" BlackNerdTaku: he acts like a 12 year old Other Guy: A %%%%%% is dfined as an ignorant person Other Guy: regardless of race, religeon or color. BlackNerdTaku: very aware Other Guy: He was being an igger BlackNerdTaku: but you prefaced it with "hes probably black Other Guy: and probably 12 Other Guy: lol BlackNerdTaku: not a good look there bro BlackNerdTaku: you may want to check the usernames of the people you play with broseph Other Guy: Well, it's ppl like him. That give blacks a bad name. BlackNerdTaku: XD BlackNerdTaku: you dont even know if he's black BlackNerdTaku: XD Other Guy: If black ppl want to end racsim, they need to stop being racist themselves. BlackNerdTaku: ..... BlackNerdTaku: dude Other Guy: It's a proven and known fact, that black ppl are the most racist in the world. BlackNerdTaku: now you're just strawmanning Other Guy: Black ppl hate black ppl too. BlackNerdTaku: no BlackNerdTaku: we hate that loud minority Other Guy: Don't go around calling each other %%%%%z and then expect things to change. BlackNerdTaku: am i getting a lecture from a racist? BlackNerdTaku: fun BlackNerdTaku: plz BlackNerdTaku: tell me more Other Guy: And most of them don't realize that baggy clothes or "saggin" was actually a code used in prison to get butt fucked. BlackNerdTaku: yeah they do Other Guy: I laugh everytime I see ppl with their pants around their knees BlackNerdTaku: so do i BlackNerdTaku: including white people BlackNerdTaku: who i see doing it most nowadays Other Guy: Education will do a lot for appl BlackNerdTaku: (lives in Philadelphia, mind you) BlackNerdTaku: indeed BlackNerdTaku: so lets eduucate everyone BlackNerdTaku: including yourself BlackNerdTaku: about what racism is BlackNerdTaku: XD Other Guy: But it's also a known fact, that black ppl have "%%%%% moments" you get caught up in some ignorant shit and neither side can defuse it. It's sad, but true. [This is where I cant even take the guy seriously anymore - seriously, where is he getting these "facts" from?] BlackNerdTaku: .... thats from The Boondocks Other Guy: I know BlackNerdTaku: thats a joke line Other Guy: But it is true BlackNerdTaku: nothing more BlackNerdTaku: says? BlackNerdTaku: who says it's true? Other Guy: I grew up in a black neighborhood, trust me..I know ebonics lol BlackNerdTaku: I'm black and grew up in a black neighborhood Other Guy: Anyway, gg. I reported Darius for verbal abuse. BlackNerdTaku: and im telling you first hand BlackNerdTaku: you're coming from a place of sheer ignorance bro Other Guy: I also grew up in a different time period than most LoL players. BlackNerdTaku: nice and everything but that nice little "hes black so hes probably a %%%%%%" Other Guy: Or gamers in general. BlackNerdTaku: is going to get you in trouble as well, bro Other Guy: Gaming is typically more of the younger folk thing. BlackNerdTaku: if you grew up in a diff time period BlackNerdTaku: then you grew up in the civil rights movement BlackNerdTaku: a man of about 40-50 Other Guy: I'm not that old lol BlackNerdTaku: hey were you the victim of a crime? Other Guy: But I grew up in a generation vastly different from today. BlackNerdTaku: ive been robbed and assaulted by people of both races BlackNerdTaku: it's not fun... BlackNerdTaku: im a grown adult BlackNerdTaku: so i can take this kind of thing BlackNerdTaku: what im telling you BlackNerdTaku: is to chill with the racism Other Guy: I've been victim of crimes many times. Most of the time I don't report it. Just the way of life. BlackNerdTaku: that was completely unnecessary and no redherring you throw will rectify that BlackNerdTaku: my spelling is broken today BlackNerdTaku: i need a break lol Other Guy: ditto Other Guy: take care

20 Comments

Drunk Rummate3 votes

".... That's from the Boondocks"

"I know, but it's true."

Me => Facedesk Facedesk Facedesk Facedesk Looks at computer Facedesk

S H A Y C 02 votes

im thinking he was drunk or maybe a little retarded...you should be nicer to the retards, its not their fault ya'know? Anyway i hope you reported this turd and pasted all that garbage in there.

Nybx4life2 votes

Did he really just try to defend himself through the Boondocks? Wow. Just wow.

disregardable2 votes

Yeah, that was hilarious. Kinda silly that you reported him though.

bunies2 votes

its funny to watch such high quality trolling

Wrath of Zed2 votes

Lots of people using big words ._.

I think people should just be more respectful all the way around. But that won't happen.

blacknerdtaku1 votes

yeah it wont happen.

there is a disrespect threshold that is different for every individual.

of course if it stops then we wouldnt get this Guy's hillarity

Cryptid Kid1 votes

Thread about Racism = people throwing the word "retard" around. Grow up.

blacknerdtaku2 votes

Hey i didnt know retard was a race....

in all seriousnes, racial slurs are a direct result of years of oppression. in referencing this oppression, and insulting an entire group of people solely for their color (like this guy did)... is just a genuinely shitty and above all RACIST thing to do.

Nigger: a contemptuous term for a black or dark-skinned person.

as a matter of fact there is no evidence of that white's tale "nigger means ignorant person" it's always been a derrogatory slurr for those of color among english speakers even back to the 1700's. it's always been used in malice for the sake of oppression.

Retard: delay or hold back in terms of progress, development, or accomplishment.

This is actually a medical/ dictionary term used for regressed. calling somebody retarded isn't insulting [other] mentally disabled people, its insulting that specific person for lack of intelligence and possessing a "retarded" mind. the only reason it's offensive is because the Politically Correct Police said "no im offended".

but politically incorrect and racist aren't the same thing.

I think of "retarded" like i think of "gay" ("that's so gay, dude.") Not exactly an insult or a derogatory term, just kinda rude with certain connotation.

I dont condone this guys behavior but i do at least think there should be a bar of difference set between actually going after an entire race, and being kinda rude to one person.

Ice Weasel X1 votes

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Hey i didnt know retard was a race....

in all seriousnes, racial slurs are a direct result of years of oppression. in referencing this oppression, and insulting an entire group of people solely for their color (like this guy did)... is just a genuinely shitty and above all RACIST thing to do.

Nigger: a contemptuous term for a black or dark-skinned person.

as a matter of fact there is no evidence of that white's tale "nigger means ignorant person" it's always been a derrogatory slurr for those of color among english speakers even back to the 1700's. it's always been used in malice for the sake of oppression.

Retard: delay or hold back in terms of progress, development, or accomplishment.

This is actually a medical/ dictionary term used for regressed. calling somebody retarded isn't insulting [other] mentally disabled people, its insulting that specific person for lack of intelligence and possessing a "retarded" mind. the only reason it's offensive is because the Politically Correct Police said "no im offended".

but politically incorrect and racist aren't the same thing.

I think of "retarded" like i think of "gay" ("that's so gay, dude.") Not exactly an insult or a derogatory term, just kinda rude with certain connotation.

I dont condone this guys behavior but i do at least think there should be a bar of difference set between actually going after an entire race, and being kinda rude to one person.

You really don't see the double standard you're setting for yourself?

what gets me is the very horrible attempts he makes to soften what he said, or reverse the blame back onto black people with some "facts" and the blatant amount of academic dishonesty involved in his attempts.

"Retarded" became an insult because it's a way of demeaning somebody's mental faculties. It compares them to people who have no fault in their lessened capabilities, but equally demeans them because the insult itself categorizes mentally disabled people as worthy of ridicule.

"Gay" is an insult primarily because of the longstanding bigotry against homosexual people. Before it became associated with homosexuality, it was often a term associated with heterosexual people unfettered by inhibitions. While people might have turned their noses up at "gay" heterosexual behavior, it was for the then-literal meaning of promiscuity. The most widely understood literal meaning of "gay" in modern times is "homosexual." People began to use the word as a derogatory label to compare subjects to homosexuals, because it was "normal" to consider them targets of ridicule.

You argue that "retarded" and "gay" are used as generic labels of disapproval, but guess what? White people get called niggers, too. I'm visibly Asian, and I've been called a nigger. The word is an insult because of its roots in anti-black racism, but it gets tossed at other groups as well.

If you're going to take offense at one slur that takes its power from insulting a group, you probably should avoid advocating using other slurs that take their power from insulting a group.

Just sayin'.

blacknerdtaku2 votes

"Retarded" became an insult because it's a way of demeaning somebody's mental faculties. It compares them to people who have no fault in their lessened capabilities,

No. it just makes fun of that person's mental health.

"Gay" is an insult primarily because of the longstanding bigotry against homosexual people. So then the word "gay rights" is offensive correct? I mean you dont see black people parading around asking for "nigger rights".

Gay, and Jew are both words to describe the person... and as Lewis Ck said, they're ponly insults "when you put a little "stank" into it"

White people get called niggers, too. I'm visibly Asian, and I've been called a nigger.

Nigger or Nigga? believe it or not there is a difference. The actual N word insult for white people isnt "Nigga", it's "Nigger Lover" and the reason white people get called "Nigga/er" is because of an integration of black culture such as Hiphop - hence why as a race we genuinely dont give a fuck when it's used anymore. the difference between a word being dropped and a person actually going off against an entire race is mentioned above.

Other Guy: hes probably black, he acts like an ignorant nigger

there is no double standard here, this man actually made an attack at a race... and fully stereotyped everyone involved.

The guy who first dropped "retard" here isn't insulting retarded people, hes insulting that guy. and like i said the word retard isn't offensive because of a long painful struggle, in much the same was as "gay" or "Jew" isnt offensive.

If he called them a "Faggot" or a "Kike" then fine.

but "retard is only offensive because it's Not Politically correct... that's all. and i know this because of family and many connections of people. The general consensus is "retarded isnt offensive unless you're using it on a person who's actually mentally disabled" because to be offensive? it needs to hold full context.

You really don't see the double standard you're setting for yourself?

Yeah, especially that part where i said i don't condone it. like i said. I dont care about the words being used. At the end of the day "nigger/nigga" is just a word, ive gotten it IRL in Texas before (and that's just terrible as i was 9 at the time) and it diodnt bother me then cause the guy was joking (i hope). What does bother me is this guys blatantly ignorant use of stereotypes and satire to use as in-evident fact. and attacking a whole race.

be butt-hurt all you want. but that's the end of this conversation.

Kazaashi1 votes

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No. it just makes fun of that person's mental health. So then the word "gay rights" is offensive correct? I mean you dont see black people parading around asking for "nigger rights".

Gay, and Jew are both words to describe the person... and as lewis Ck said, they're ponly insults "when you put a little "stank" into it"

Nigger or Nigga? believe it or not there is a difference. and the reason white people get called it is because of an integration of black culture - hence why as a race we genuinely dont give a fuck when it's used anymore. the difference between a word being dropped and a person actually going off against an entire race is mentioned above.

there is no double standard here, this man actually made an attack at a race... and fully stereotyped everyone involved.

the guy who first dropped "retard" here isnt insulting retarded people, hes insulting that guy. and like i said the word retard isnt offensive because of a long painful struggle, in much the same was as "gay" or "Jew" isnt offensive.

If he called them a "Faggot" or a "Kike" then fine.

but "retard is only offensive because it's Not Politically correct... thats all. and i know this because of family and many connections of people. The general consensus is "retarded isnt offensive unless you're using it on a person who's actually mentally disabled" because to be offensive? it needs to hold full context.

Yeah, especially that part where i said i don't condone it. like i said. I dont care about the words being used. At the end of the day "nigger/nigga" is just a word, ive gotten it IRL in Texas before (and that's just terrible as i was 9 at the time) and it diodnt bother me then cause the guy was joking (i hope). What does bother me is this guys blatantly ignorant use of stereotypes and satire to use as inevident fact. and attacking a whole race.

be butt-hurt all you want. but that's the end of this conversation.

Basically it is a double standard because the N-word is offensive to people when it is said. The same thing can be said for the R-word, because people who are mentally handicapped can be offended when the term used to describe them is used to hurt or disparige someone else.

The scale is totally different, but the heart of the issue is the same.

blacknerdtaku1 votes

My issue in this post here actually doesnt have anything to do with the N word. I called him a racist, not because he used it. i called him a racist because he prefaced it when he used it, and proceeeded to attack blacks in general.

Other Guy: hes probably black, he acts like an ignorant nigger BlackNerdTaku: but you prefaced it with "hes probably black Other Guy: It's a proven and known fact, that black ppl are the most racist in the world. Other Guy: But it's also a known fact, that black ppl have "nigga moments" you get caught up in some ignorant shit and neither side can defuse it. It's sad, but true.

this isnt a result of using the N-word... even without it it's racist

also in response to Ice Weasel X, he continues to try to take the route for political correctness, that's fine but, what the guy who started this said is nowhere near as bad. As ive said, retard is just a word directed solely at one specific person's mental state. this is because "retarded" was originally the word used for mental stasis, it was only considered offensive when the Politically corerect movement jumped on and didnt want their kids to have their feelings hurt...

Its the exact same reason people still call "Disassociative Identity Disorder" it's older more prominent term"Multiple Personality Disorder" By Ice weasel's logic people who are only Bipolar or subject to quick emotinal change being called one with MPD should be the worst because it "insults" people with years of socisl stigma.

Nigger = a racist term for a black man, used in disdain for the entire race Retard = a now considered politically incorrect term for stasis of the mind.

Ice Weasel X1 votes

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My issue in this post here actually doesnt have anything to do with the N word. I called him a racist, not because he used it. i called him a racist because he prefaced it when he used it, and proceeeded to attack blacks in general.

this isnt a result of using the N-word... even without it it's racist

also in response to Ice Weasel X, he continues to try to take the route for political correctness, that's fine but, what the guy who started this said is nowhere near as bad. As ive said, retard is just a word directed solely at one specific person's mental state. this is because "retarded" was originally the word used for mental stasis, it was only considered offensive when the Politically corerect movement jumped on and didnt want their kids to have their feelings hurt...

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If you're going to take offense at one slur that takes its power from insulting a group, you probably should avoid advocating using other slurs that take their power from insulting a group.

I'll be honest, I don't generally jump down people's throats for the odd "retard" or "gay" comment, but your preaching about racism while not acknowledging that those words are harmful to entire groups of people (you don't have to be part of an ethnic group to take offense to a negative generalization; "races" don't have a monopoly on respect) is downright ridiculous. So what if racism is considered "worse" to people? Do disabled people get an -ism? They certainly feel the pain of disrespect in most cases. For those whose mental capacity is lessened to the point that they don't, their family members do. Homosexuality has homophobia as its "-ism," and guess what? Riot has officially lumped racist and homophobic slurs together in descriptions of what sorts of language are completely intolerable. It doesn't matter if the target is even of the "appropriate" classification for these insults.

I'm going to restate what I said before.

You're a hypocrite because you ridiculed the guy for coming up with justifications for his use of terms that demean entire groups of people, and that is exactly what you continue to do for your use of terms that demean entire groups of people.

If I said, "You're worse than Lyte," you know who I'm insulting? Here's a hint: at least two people.

Actually, I'll do more than give you a hint to make sure you understand.

  • The statement insults you because it directly targets you as "worse than someone."
  • The statement insults Lyte because it strongly implies that he is pretty awful.
  • If Lyte is a horrible person, it could insult his wife for attaching herself to him.

But you know what? Lyte's actually a pretty good guy as far as I'm aware. So even if he's not an awful benchmark, just using him as the zinger is a jab at him.

Its the exact same reason people still call "Disassociative Identity Disorder" it's older more prominent term"Multiple Personality Disorder" By Ice weasel's logic people who are only Bipolar or subject to quick emotinal change being called one with MPD should be the worst because it "insults" people with years of socisl stigma.

Actually, the big issue would be with the term "bipolar." People get labeled with that so often just for being moody, which negatively affects those who really do have bipolar disorder. Too many people misunderstand how bad a condition it is, up until it causes an incident. A lot of sufferers also avoid telling anyone they have it due to the social stigma associated with it.

blacknerdtaku1 votes

You're a hypocrite because you ridiculed the guy for coming up with justifications for his use of terms that demean entire groups of people, and that is exactly what you continue to do for your use of terms that demean entire groups of people.

Oh really? Mine? Please give me a nice block quote in the Op, or any of my subsequent comments, where I personally called the guy a "retard"

Plz quote me on where i said I fully condone the behaviour of the Guy who was using it

and finally please block quote me where I said it was offensive solely because he said "Nigger", and not because he proceeded to stereotype everyone in the most offensive of ways.

You're calling me out when you only read what is convenient to you... if you actually bothered to... if you actually bothered to even ONCE look at the gist of this argument. it's NOT ABOUT THE WORD BEING USED... the only way your argument works is if you insist on my offense being specifically at the word Nigger. It's not. And ive reitterated it a million times where the issue stems from.

Actually, the big issue would be with the term "bipolar." People get labeled with that so often just for being moody, which negatively affects those who really do have bipolar disorder. Too many people misunderstand how bad a condition it is, up until it causes an incident. A lot of sufferers also avoid telling anyone they have it due to the social stigma associated with it.

Facedesk

I'll be honest, I don't generally jump down people's throats for the odd "retard" or "gay" comment, but your preaching about racism while not acknowledging* that those words are harmful to entire groups of people (you don't have to be part of an ethnic group to take offense to a negative generalization; "races" don't have a monopoly on respect)

......

I'm sorry i didnt know calling somebody gay was Harmful... i mean it's only one of the 2 universal terms they use to refer to themselves... where do you think the "G" in LGBT comes from? i certainly dont see an "H" in there.... I mean what's next? calling a woman, a woman is offensive?

Ive said the word 4 times.... FOUR TIMES. say it with me now... C-O-N-N-O-T-A-T-I-O-N

Defined as:

the abstract meaning or intention of a term, which forms a principle determining which objects or concepts it applies to.

In other words the difference between saying "well that's really interesting" using genuine excitement vs the exact same words with a robotic voice.

It is the use of the context surrounding the words being used that I'm locking on to.

Know what else requires that to be offensive? "retarded" only in specific connotation is the word retarded used as an insult to an entire group.... and only when even more specific is the word being used to INSULT A GROUP OF PEOPLE. Is it offensive? I already acknowledged that it can offend people...

why? "KILL ALL THE RETARDS, SO I DONT HAVE TO WASTE MY MONEY ON THEIR MEDICAL EXPENSES" is offensive. it's a horrid thing to say, and if somebody said it i would jump down their throat instantly. it's hate speech.

but saying "that guy is retarded" while rude, Isn't hurting anybody except the person he's insulting

"Nigger" has ALWAYS had racist connotation... it was invented specifically to refer to people of color with distaste. it wasnt until the word was restructured by black people that it lost that connotation but only in that form. wanna Know the world of difference between them?

Universally there is no "the G word" there is no "the R word"

but there is "The N word"

Now then do not misconstrue that fact i consider certain words to be worse than others to mean i excuse their usage of them.... as i said in my first post on this topic.

I dont condone this guys behavior but i do at least think there should be a bar of difference set between actually going after an entire race, and being kinda rude to one person.

Cryptid Kid1 votes

HAHA. You are so wrong, and you refuse to admit it. If you think it's okay to pick and choose which slurs are okay, then fine, but you're wrong.

blacknerdtaku1 votes

You are so wrong, and you refuse to admit it

Oh this is gonna be good.

If you think it's okay to pick and choose which slurs are okay

Exactly. +1 to you for not reading.

1: At no point did i say using retarded in any manner was Ok, i did make an aside argument however about the severity of different words, as well as the required connotation to be considered offensive.

2: Ive stated multiple times, it's not the slur being used that is the problem with this guy, now havent I? Multiple times i noted he doesnt even have to use the slur for this to be racist.

Other Guy: hes probably black, he acts like an ignorant nigger

Other Guy: If black ppl want to end racsim, they need to stop being racist themselves. BlackNerdTaku: ..... BlackNerdTaku: dude Other Guy: It's a proven and known fact, that black ppl are the most racist in the world.

Ive bought this up, and i will again would it be any less racist if this guy said

hes probably black, he acts so fucking Ignorant

Does that sound racist to you? but why? There is no slur, but there is malicious connotation. there is context given to how the word is being used, and if you study ANY language you will learn that connotation can make or break a sentence.

This has nothing to do with "picking and chosing" as you so happily put it, because at no point did i say it was Ok in any way shape or form. I never defended the guy, I never said what he said was fine.

So here is where the inherent question lies. is calling somebody "retarded" actually an insult to mentally slow people, or is it an insult to that specific person's (the person it's directed to's) state of Mind or action? That would man calling somebody "barbaric" is insulting people with lots of body hair.

but you're wrong.

this is down to public opinion and sensitivity, techincally there is no right or wrong, because it's so fickle....

Cryptid Kid1 votes

You DO keep choosing which slurs are okay. You are saying that it's okay to drop the n bomb, that it's okay to call people retards, as long as they don't have any disabilities, that it's okay to call someone gay, as an insult, as long as they are being stupid.

You are rationalizing your own ignorance, and that is pretty dumb.

You seem to think that just because it's just calling the person a word, it doesn't carry years of hatred and fear with it. By using these words AS insults, you are referencing their entire history, and saying "You are just like that."

You probably think Rape Jokes are funny too, right?

Ice Weasel X1 votes

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No. it just makes fun of that person's mental health. So then the word "gay rights" is offensive correct? I mean you dont see black people parading around asking for "nigger rights".

Gay, and Jew are both words to describe the person... and as lewis Ck said, they're ponly insults "when you put a little "stank" into it"

No, "gay rights" is obviously not a pejorative term by default unless you are mocking the movement. Obviously. However, using "gay" as a pejorative is using the longstanding bias against homosexuality as the source of its vitriol. In the years that preceded "that's gay" as a way of saying something was bad, gay people were among society's easy targets. Think gay people don't still have trouble just because homosexuality is gaining increased acceptance? Then why do so many gay people have a hard time coming out? For that matter, how long after black people were legally recognized as equal citizens in the USA did it take for them to become completely integrated as equals? Some of them claim it still hasn't happened.

Nigger or Nigga? believe it or not there is a difference. and the reason white people get called it is because of an integration of black culture - hence why as a race we genuinely dont give a fuck when it's used anymore. the difference between a word being dropped and a person actually going off against an entire race is mentioned above.

Specifically, nigger. There was definitely an -er when someone called me that, which not only pissed off the black person seated behind me, but the white person drinking with me. Also, just because you may be black doesn't mean that "you as a race" don't give a fuck when it's used anymore. There certainly are a lot of people blaming racism when other reasons are possible for perceived injustices. While I know black people who don't care about the word, I know many more who will hospitalize someone for using it. They don't even like the "nigga" variant.

there is no double standard here, this man actually made an attack at a race... and fully stereotyped everyone involved.

There is quite a double standard here.

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but what gets me is the very horrible attempts he makes to soften what he said

That's exactly what you are doing.

the guy who first dropped "retard" here isnt insulting retarded people, hes insulting that guy. and like i said the word retard isnt offensive because of a long painful struggle, in much the same was as "gay" or "Jew" isnt offensive.

Retard is very much offensive to disabled people and their families because of a long painful struggle with society. Just because you may not feel that it affects you doesn't mean it doesn't affect many people with such conditions. Children who have to ride the "short bus" are shamed for it by their peers. Adults are often treated as broken or given token accommodations because people feel forced into it, but often feel uncomfortable around them anyway. I've dealt with disabled people and their families, and the social stigma of being anything other than normal is often a rough one to handle for them. The people I've met take serious offense to the term being thrown about so nonchalantly.

but "retard is only offensive because it's Not Politically correct... thats all. and i know this because of family and many connections of people. The general consensus is "retarded isnt offensive unless you're using it on a person who's actually mentally disabled" because to be offensive? it needs to hold full context.

Not really. As I said, the disabled people and their families that I've met (and having worked in a medical organization for 10 years, I've met many) get upset when anyone is labeled that way. And racial slurs? Those are also offensive because they aren't politically correct. Just look at words like "negro." That is an official term that is not only on federal census forms, but is also the direct translation for "black" in numerous languages. Many black people insist it's racist. Was the bastardization "nigger" created with the sole purpose of showing disdain for an entire ethnic group? Probably. But the offensive nature is still a matter of political incorrectness. It's not like it's illegal to use the word. It's just offensive.

Yeah, especially that part where i said i don't condone it. like i said. I dont care about the words being used. At the end of the day "nigger/nigga" is just a word, ive gotten it IRL in Texas before (and that's just terrible as i was 9 at the time) and it diodnt bother me then cause the guy was joking (i hope). What does bother me is this guys blatantly ignorant use of stereotypes and satire to use as inevident fact. and attacking a whole race.

What bothers me is that you're trying to rationalize that it's "okay" for you to call people "retards" and "gay" as insults, and the only reason you got upset about this guy's use of "nigger" was because he was being ignorant and trying to justify his use of the word. That's exactly what you're doing.

be butt-hurt all you want. but that's the end of this conversation.

Of course it is. Because I'm right. So go ahead and downvote me. I've already laid out the reasons.

blacknerdtaku1 votes

There is quite a double standard here. That's exactly what you are doing.

Oh yeah? when did i ever actually call anybody retarded? even better question when did i condone making fun of people with mental disabilities? when did i condone blatantly attacking an entire group of people? Last i checked this argument was about the weight of whats being said.

  • one is a guy stereotyping an entire race... and the word nigger doesnt even have to be used for that racism to apply.... literally everything in that post he said was Bigoted and directed towards black people

  • One is a Guy who calles this one dude "retarded"... the word retarded just so happens to be offensive because of an issue of political correctness.

Ive made it clear multiple times that the word nigger doesnt matter at all in this post. it's what he says surrounding the word. Question is this racist?

He's probably Black because he acts so Ignorant

yes? but the word nigger wasnt used at all in it. he could have said that AND STILL sparked this argument Again it's what he's saying surrounding it thats a problem.

Those are also offensive because they aren't politically correct. Just look at words like "negro." That is an official term that is not only on federal census forms, but is also the direct translation for "black" in numerous languages.

Negro is exactly what i said above.

it's not rude unless used with certain connotation... also when was the last time you ever heard a black man be insultingly called a Negro by any other race.

Specifically, nigger. There was definitely an -er when someone called me that, which not only pissed off the black person seated behind me, but the white person drinking with me. Also, just because you may be black doesn't mean that "you as a race" don't give a fuck when it's used anymore.

that Er is because i still dont think white people get it. I will make this assumption since the black guy behind you got miffed... secondly, lol is he asking to get his ass kicked for no reason?

There certainly are a lot of people blaming racism when other reasons are possible for perceived injustices.

That's what we call "the victim card" it's a very deplorable thing to do.... unless there is a very good reason for using it.. Lets take police brutality for a quick second. this article has stats listed from the official records (we're going to ignore the article itself and just take a look at the charts here.) http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2014/08/police-shootings-michael-brown-ferguson-black-men...

that is a lot of shot black men vs white men. these numbers are made public... a lot of these stories seem fishy people get up in arms.

like really? why the hell would you choke a man out like that? he is shouting on video "i cant breathe, i cant breathe" do you know how long and hard you need to strangle hold somebody to kill them? REALLY?

and we're very well aware that there are some people who are just stupid as fuck and deserved what happened to them.... one such case being

http://www.cbsnews.com/videos/video-shows-cleveland-officers-shooting-boy-holding-toy-gun/

but then this raises the question the second the cop says "male maybe 20"? HE'S FUCKING 12! follow this up with reports that white cops see blacks as "angry Supermen" by the people defending them.... and you can see why this becomes an issue.

the issue is with public prejuduces.

While I know black people who don't care about the word, I know many more who will hospitalize someone for using it. They don't even like the "nigga" variant.

Probably because it's being used with racist connotation. why would a random white person call a black man a Nigger anyway? thats provocation

if they just so happen to use the word in an example and the black guy gets angry, then thats solely the blackj guy's fault and stupidity.

Of course it is. Because I'm right. So go ahead and downvote me. I've already laid out the reasons.

i was being a very understanding person with your points, because yes, people are different and i understand that..... but then you did it. YOU ENDED ON THE LOGICAL FALLACY yeah! 2 of em.

Why would i downvote you? in the end you're an apparently asian guy with his own experiences who disagrees with me - a black man with HIS own experiences... what reason would i have for downvoting you? to imply that i would for any reason is just an ad hominem attack.

Im the kind of person who believes in one thing... words dont mean anything without context and my other favorite C word... Connotation. Why? Because i like to write, and im definitely prone to making self demeaning racist jokes, as well as Jokes toward everything else.... it is for that reason that i fully disagree with you.

  • What i see when i see the guy i presnted is a man who doesnt know any better than racism, than a seeming hatred of people for their race, who went as far as to try to reinforce a stereotype
  • what is see to the guy in the comments who started this is "look at that Fool"

Is it rude to use retard? In his context, absolutely But is he being a bigot for using it? No.

you should be nicer to the retards, its not their fault ya'know?

is merely sarcasm... but I will agree it's a shitty thing to say... hence why I DONT CONDONE IT

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