A small note regarding Rioter interactions

ModCaptainMårvelous··13 votes·3,025 views

While it's probably not my place to make note of this, I kinda see this a lot. Quite often, when in a game with someone who happens to have the Riot tag or they just generally talk to a Rioter on the forums, a lot of people ask questions or try to reach Rioters on topics they have little-to-no information, knowledge or sway in. This then leads to people getting upset that the employee did not have the answer and, unfortunately, can lead to a general feeling of disappointment on both sides.

The primary thing I hope everyone knows is that each Rioter is very specialized in certain fields. Take for example Ironstylus. While the parrot is definitely the guy to ask about artistic upgrades, thoughts on looks and perhaps how an aspiring artist can join Riot? He's probably not the guy to take your balance questions to. Likewise, someone like Morello or Hippalus has absolutely no sway over disconnection errors and at best, they can only forward your problems to the appropriate department.

Partially why I felt this needed to be said is that, well, Rioters are people too. They feel bad when they can't help you and getting upset with them because they legitimately DO want to help. They simply lack the means to do so. Rioters are people too and they will do their best to assist you.

Hopefully the new community environment will be a bit less hostile to reds as opposed to the current forums. (While at the same time not baselessly praising them as Reddit tends to do. Rioters do great work but they're not always right :P )

31 Comments

Bob LLama8 votes

What are you talking about. I'm always right!

QuesoLoco2 votes

Your Level 24 is simply too op to ignore.

That being said, are you a community liaison? You're missing your Riot info in your Account badge!

Sir ArmaMalum1 votes

huh, I never noticed that.....

Bob LLama3 votes

That's a good point. No, I'm not a community liaison, I'm actually on the community beta team. And yes, fear the 24.

ModCaptainMårvelous4 votes

*25

QuesoLoco2 votes

Congrats on Level 25 then!

jwf9995 votes

Bob LLama meaning of Life plz, other than RP

Bob LLama9 votes

The meaning of life is R... oh wait you said other than. Uh... I dunno, to be the best person you can be I guess? Or soup. One of those.

Smelloscope8 votes

The meaning of life is to be the best soup you can be? I must consider....

jwf9992 votes

I thought it was killing teemo. My fav is the maokai 420 spin into a sapling. yours?

Sir ArmaMalum3 votes

To add on this, Rioters' profiles (shown when you mouse over a name) will show their field of work within Riot. If you want to talk to a Rioter you do not know yet, check that real quick so you can confirm they will be able to help you and give proper insight. Of course you can always ask their opinion on a matter like anyone as well, they're all still people and players. But as the Cap said, if you want facts, make sure you're barking up the right tree. :)

Calderweiss3 votes

It has always bothered me when a Rioter posts, and people are like FIX THE SERVERS!!! when they are talking to a senior animator.

MXXIV2 votes

Though this seems to me a little like another "Vote hunt" post, I agree with you. Posts like "Riot, READ THIS" upset me to the most. Here, they upset me twice, because they get actually much more upvotes than relevant notices and awesome champion concepts.

ModCaptainMårvelous1 votes

Upvotes aren't really the intent. More so to ease people out so there is less of a focus on "Answer my question and answer it NOW!" vs. "Hey, do you guys mind answering a little question I have?". Asides, upvotes are just a side effect. This is kind of something that needed to be said.

MXXIV1 votes

The sad thing is, that people who post such posts will never read this, just like the people that keep hating on each other ever single game never read the "Did you know..." hints.

the Anarchit3cht2 votes

What I find is that most Rioters will come in, make one post. Then leave for like a week before posting again. Or they will never post again but a different Rioter will. If Riot actually put a little more effort into helping the community, then people wouldn't have to spam things like "PLZ READ RIOT" or whatever. That aside, whenever they do come and help they aren't very amicable about it. It seems like they are helping not because they want to, but because it's their job.

Drip Drip Drip2 votes

CaptainMarvelous is that really you? Really?

ModCaptainMårvelous1 votes

It is but I don't really see how it's a big deal.

Remlap12231 votes

Speaking of Ironstylus, where is he? I've got a beef with him about a certain totally awesome old champ that is definitely deserving of a a visual upgrade and spell icons to better fit his awesome classic art. Also, you could make this guy about 100000x more badass with some creative tweaks to his animations. In case you don't know who I'm talking about, Jax .

Sir ArmaMalum7 votes

Jax Imagine if I had real visuals.

Couldn't resist :P

Remlap12234 votes

Take my upvote, you deserve it.

ModCaptainMårvelous3 votes

Ironstylus actually lurks on the CB from time to time and I have seen him post here (Sometimes in my own threads). As for a Jax rework? While he's probably in the pipeline, there are currently certain champions who are visual garbage whereas Jax isn't so badly off.

Still, I'll try to share your concerns next time I talk to him!

Calderweiss2 votes

Yeah, Jax is at least passable for a while as champions like Taric and Sion get worked on. And those icons have the elusive helmet bro in them, we can't just discard helmet bro.

The Anagram King1 votes

Is there an "Ask Riot your questions!" thread?

I feel thread where people can straight shoot questions, and get straight answers, would solve a whole bunch of neglect issues.

It'd be swamped in the first day, but it'd ease off over time.

ModCaptainMårvelous1 votes

Go for it. That's not a bad idea.

QuesoLoco3 votes

I think it would be cooler if there was an evolving Riot team AMA in each of their respective forums that was rather well moderated.

E.g. We're the balance team AUA! And they just all follow the discussion, and when they see something they can chime into, they answer.

This would be rather than each individual rioter acting as a P.R. mouthpiece.

The Anagram King3 votes

Any decision that promotes some form of bond between the Riot staff and playerbase would be welcome.

I spent 2 years assuming a Viktor rework was in progress, only to find out last month - in a Rengar thread, no less - that they'd shelved it some time ago. It killed my affection for the team just a little bit. Innocence lost, y'know? :P

QuesoLoco1 votes

They did mention that if the rengar trinket system worked out, they might do something similar for viktor, and that was the "tech" I assume they discussed for S4 that they needed.

That being said, I agree. They do discuss a lot of things, but if you don't HUGELY follow the scene, it gets buried fast.

Bob LLama4 votes

This is actually a really interesting topic to me. I've been doing a lot of research and talking to various rioters a lot to explore the AMA process and see what improvements can be made.

Believe it or not, many people love interacting directly with the community (or at least the idea of it). Unfortunately, there have been some pretty negative experiences that have somewhat soured things for people and maybe made people a bit more hesitant to participate.

So one of the big things on my radar for the near future is to find new and more worthwhile ways for reds to interact with the community.

One of the biggest challenges we face is actually time constraints and efficiency. Rioters are very passionate, and we work a LOT. Community interaction isn't a job requirement, so we do it when we can. So in the case of AMAs, it can be quite challenging if a rioter or a team has only, say, one hour. What to answer? How tot rack it? Who does what?

While I love the idea conceptually, the practical reality of an evolving AMA is probably not feasible. BUT, my goal is to find ways to make the interactions easier, more frequent, and hopefully more meaningful for all involved. So don't hold your breath on anything immediately, but keep an eye to the near future for some small and then larger improvements.

Calderweiss1 votes

The @Ezreal thread was really popular, I miss it.

Bob LLama2 votes

but it'd ease off over time

While I like this idea, I also don't agree that it would ease off over time, hahaha.

That said, there was some exploration of a "question of the day" type thing. We just started batting the idea around last week, so we don't really have a clear idea of how it would work and what the scope would be, but one of my big goals is to facilitate rioter interactions with the community.

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