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Unprovable Toxicity

Spinning Axes··1 votes·517 views

I just got done playing the WORST game I've ever played, and it isn't because I played bad, or because I fed, but it was because I was verbally abused all game long by a certain someone that I WISH I could say on these boards, but I'm over and above that level.

This certain someone not only verbally attacked me, my family, and my personal life, but he also lied to the other team framing me as the one making the insults. With the other team not knowing any better, they believed him instead of me, which resulted in me receiving several reports for "Verbal Abuse," when I was the one being abused.

Not only that, but this person also AFK'd when a surrender vote didn't pass 3/2, and when the enemy team was told I was the one who actually AFK'd, they believed it.

This is absolutely unacceptable, and there's no way to prove to the enemy team that I was the one being attacked all game long, AND ON TOP OF IT I'm the one going to be punished, if anyone, because I'm the one with the reports.

My suggestion? Allow the other team to read the enemy team's chat at the end game screen. Not only might it be pretty interesting to see what they said at certain times, but it's also a way to prove that I was the one being abused all game long.

Riot, this isn't something you can just layoff for another day. This is a huge problem, and it's disheartening having to play with people like the people I played with, and I hope that you can find a fix for this, because I honestly don't want to ever have to deal with that again.

12 Comments

Drunkèn Master3 votes

learn to mute, one game of no communication is not going to change where you stand in the big scheme of things

then report them at the end of game with an explanation, you would be surprised in the overall results, gl

ModWulf Helhammer3 votes

Just so you know, getting that message that you were reports doesn't necessarily mean that you will get banned. It's just a notification that you got reported. As long as you weren't toxic in the game, you shouldn't get banned. Also, you should've reported the other player

Spinning Axes1 votes

  1. I did report the other player, and requested the other team to report him too but to no avail.

  2. I was the one receiving the reports, so if anyone were to get punished, it would probably be me, even though I wasn't toxic at all. It there is 6 people reporting one person vs. 1 people reporting another, the chances of the person who got 1 report getting banned seems quite slim compared to the chances of the person with 6 reports getting banned.

ModWulf Helhammer1 votes

While the number of bans may count in some scenarios, it does not mean you will be the one who gets banned, but instead it is the behavior of the player that determines that. This is to avoid a premade group of 4 from blaming the one person on their team for something that may not be their fault, or just fooling around and doing it for kicks. As long as you behaved as you should, then you won't get banned (and if you do, submit a support ticket, as if you didn't do anything actually wrong, then you shouldn't get banned)

Zombiemaster1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Spinning Axes,realm=NA,application-id=cIfEodbz,discussion-id=2r4HhjcQ,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2015-06-14T22:54:01.042+0000)

  1. I did report the other player, and requested the other team to report him too but to no avail.

  2. I was the one receiving the reports, so if anyone were to get punished, it would probably be me, even though I wasn't toxic at all. It there is 6 people reporting one person vs. 1 people reporting another, the chances of the person who got 1 report getting banned seems quite slim compared to the chances of the person with 6 reports getting banned.

Just so you know, the number of reports you receive in a single game DOES NOT matter at all. The system does not look at the number of reports you receive in a single game, but rather it looks at the number of games you were reported in. So, 1 report in a single game is treated the same as 9 reports in a single game. This means that, even though you may have received more reports in that particular game than the other player, the system will treat you as equally as the other player since you both were only reported in one game (of course, this is not taking into account any other factors there may be).

This is done to prevent premade parties from having too much power over other players, particularly solo players. Also, knowing this, there really isn't any need to ask for any one else to report a certain player. All it takes is one single report to flag the whole game, any extra reports don't really do anything.

Deep Terror Nami2 votes

abused all game long

I kind of hate when people say that. Mute them and you won't have to deal with it longer than you have to. Mute them, do not speak to them at all, especially don't tell them they are muted or going to be reported, and report them at the end.

Spinning Axes1 votes

I realize the reason to use the mute button and I know that I SHOULD use it, however, I'm a strong believer that communication wins games, and pings don't cut it for me.

I climbed to where I am using this method and I intend to try and continue to use it.

Even still, the fact remains that this kind of behavior is unacceptable and even if I did mute him, he would have still abused me and I still would have been the one blamed, which is something that definitely should be looked at.

DrCyanide1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Spinning Axes,realm=NA,application-id=cIfEodbz,discussion-id=2r4HhjcQ,comment-id=,timestamp=2015-06-14T22:33:24.616+0000)

Not only that, but this person also AFK'd when a surrender vote didn't pass 3/2, and when the enemy team was told I was the one who actually AFK'd, they believed it.

#Do you honestly expect anyone to believe that?

We've all played this game. We're aware of the enemy top laner split pushing our towers down. We're aware of the enemy support that keeps wandering away from the fight to ward. We're even aware of the enemy ADC that was insta-killed by our assassin before the rest of the team could get there.

What you're suggesting is that you weren't any of those. You were so far removed from the game that the enemy didn't even know if you were at your keyboard. Furthermore you're suggesting that the enemy team was convinced that the other player actually was one of those guys that they thought they'd seen.

You're either flat out lying, or the other team was so determined to be a jerk to you that your suggestions wouldn't have mattered.

Spinning Axes1 votes

I think you actually demonstrate my point quite well - I have no way to PROVE to you that I wasn't the one AFK, and all I can do is SAY I wasn't.

Yes, they believed I was the one AFK for reasons unknown, and quite honestly, I really don't fault them for it either. They don't know any better, which is what this thread is based on.

If you want to see the match in my match history, here it is: http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/1856502254/210685445

DrCyanide1 votes

Actually, the match history is very helpful here, as I've got access to Riot's API and can probe it further to find more about the game.

Who was it that actually AFKed, and about what point in the game?

Spinning Axes1 votes

Nidalee, and a couple minutes before the game had ended.

AlienPrimate1 votes

Don't worry about it. The way banning for a case like this works is you are punished by the tribunal. The case is sent to the tribunal by an automated system if you are reported enough times and then other players will judge you. The tribunal sees both team's chat logs as well as player builds. I have participated in this many times and I have been on the majority side of the vote 100% of the time, so I know that most people judge fairly.

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