Dear Jungler,

Spinning Axes··8 votes·1,072 views

It's your most hated lane, mid lane!

You know, that lane with all the stupidly mobile champions like Zed and LeBlanc that you'll never catch in a gank?

Yeah. That lane.

So I was wondering, considering you're Rek'Sai, if you could give me second blue, as you probably won't need it. I'm going 0/1/1, due to a gank by the enemy vi earlier, and Orianna is a pretty mana hungry champion! It'd help out a lot. I could push, roam, harass, and farm much easier with it, putting me back into the game, and in a position to help the team.

Thanks, Orianna

Rek'Sai: no fak u.

In all honesty, as a ADC / Mid / Jungle main, just give your damn mid the blue buff. If he's going 0/3/0, then I understand why you don't want to, and you probably shouldn't, but if he's like 0/2/1, and he's trying his hardest as a Veigar against a Zed but he simply can't compete because he doesn't have mana, show him some mercy. That CDR or mana could VERY EASILY result in a kill for your mid laner, bringing them back up to 1/2/1, which is a fairly good KDA if you ask me. As a mid laner myself, I would say (if I'm a mana hungry champion) that I win at least 30% more of my lanes if I get second blue, ESPECIALLY if I'm behind to begin with. If I'm ahead, great. Even more reason to give me the blue. I can now shove them in, harass them off the CS, roam around due to my lane being shoved in, and contribute more in a fight due to the CDR. If you're playing someone like Amumu and I'm someone like Xerath, who has inbuilt mana sustain, then go ahead and take the blue - at least I understand the difficulties of jungling. But if you're Elise, or Nidalee, who doesn't use mana in half your abilities, and I'm stuck under tower as LeBlanc or Talon, show me some mercy - help me out. A blue helps a lot more than a failed gank.

Sincerely, Your understanding mid laner

18 Comments

Yash Gautam1 votes

I only give mid a blue if they are mana hungry, doing at least decent, and if they ask nicely. I don't give it to them if they don't say thanks in some way. After all, it is my blue buff, and I decide who gets it.

Spinning Axes1 votes

I don't really care how rude they are to me for it, if it helps me win, I'll give it.

I'll also give it to them if they aren't so mana hungry or have in built mana regen, just because it will help them win mid, which is essential in lower elos. Although not as essential in high plat, it's still a huge advantage to have a fed mid laner.

Giving mid laners a blue when they are 0/2/0 is fine, I'll just tell them to play safe with it and don't die or he'll get the blue and you'll be screwed. They usually play well with it after that.

When a jungler says "it's my jungle I do what I want with it," that's the most annoying thing, although it's kind of true. You are the jungler, your role is to help your lanes win their lanes, no matter the cost.

Spinning Axes1 votes

aaaand this thread is dying like all my other threads. rip

I Kill Commies1 votes

Dear Diary

ZacsRealm1 votes

I totally agree. BUT. Call me what you will, but if you don't ask for blue, i'm not giving it to you. ESPECIALLY not if you've been a ass to me the entire game. Like there was this one time, where this Tryn was being a dick the entire game, and then tries to take red from me. I smite it.

Tryndamere Zac wtf

Zac remember when you called me a f@king c###? Yeah, me too.

moral of the story is dont treat your jungle like shit and then expect buffs :\

aaronconlin1 votes

I had an Elise top tell me I was the worst jungler NA because she lost lane and I "never ganked" when I was busy helping bot lane because our Graves was feeding. She said "fuck you I'm taking your blue" powerball smite Rammus okay.

Spinning Axes1 votes

Well, that Elise was just trolling. She doesn't really need blue anyways, since her spider form doesn't even use mana.

Spinning Axes1 votes

Again, I've said it before, I don't care how I get treated as a jungler - if it helps me win the game, then I'll do it.

Vesarixx1 votes

I had a game once where the support Thresh kept trying to take red buff, and then he got mad when I smited it

Spinning Axes1 votes

The Thresh was trolling - even when I play Thresh support, I know full well that others can use it way more effectively than I can.

Vesarixx1 votes

He seemed pretty serious, kept trying to take it throughout the entire game.

Spinning Axes1 votes

Well then, he was either a consistent troll or didn't understand the concept of support.

Blue Collar Bear1 votes

What most junglers don't do is pick to counter the mid laner. If you pick to counter the mid laner and then you, the mid laner, pick to counter the bot lane, what's possible to do is get the mid lane fed and then you can both roam and successfully kill the bot lane!

For example, in your scenario, I would take Rengar with Ghost and rush Boots. I would never fail to get in range before Zed shadowed out, and it would result in a successful kill through the double bola trick. Then, we could roam bottom lane.

Spinning Axes1 votes

Even then, if you're Rengar, you should be giving your mid laner blue, in the exception of Kat or Vlad.

Blue Collar Bear1 votes

I disagree. Rengar benefits very much from the cooldown reduction of blue buff.

If you're 0/3 in lane before level six, I would not even ask. Your lane has lost. A blue buff will not change that.

Spinning Axes1 votes

Yeah, I said in the original post that a 0/3/0 laner is not worth it, and they should realize that they will just feed it if they're at least half decent at the game.

However, if you're playing Rengar and you have ANY mana reliant champion, give the blue as they can use it WAY better than you can. Even with a Zed, who has poor energy regen, can use the blue quite nicely, as he also loves to have some CDR.

The only reason to keep your blue as Rengar is if you have a mid laner AND a top laner without mana, or if your mid laner AND top laner are losing lane hard.

DrathTurtle3141 votes

If I ping blue, I'm fighting blue. If you don't come and take it after two pings and I've killed both of the little minions, I'm taking it. If you complain thirty seconds later about how you need a blue buff, you are an idiot. If I don't ping it, I will probably smite it if you show up(Amumu).

That all being said, I play a lot of Zac, so you can usually take my second blue. and my third. and fourth. Just don't let the enemy take it.

Spinning Axes1 votes

Well, that's something I have to personally work on - I always don't see my junglers pings!

If the mid laner asks for blue after you take it, he either:

1 - Wants the next one, or

2 - Didn't see your pings for the previous one.

Either way, he's probably asking for it with good intentions, and not to piss you off.

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