Rather than letting all that IP amass and sit there for nothing, could you not give veteran players an incentive? Reward those players who own all champs and runes with something not obtainable by putting down $$$?
Make those early season players happy by throwing them some goodies?
Pretty please?
Rew7117 votesI wish they'd do this with OLD skins. You know, the ones they can't sell.
Like: Ruthless Pantheon Armor of the Fifth Age Taric Bird of Prey Anavia French Maid Nidalee Myrmidon Pantheon Giant Enemy Cragot Bilgewater Katarina Enchanted Galio Guerilla Tristana Forsaken Olaf Cowgirl Miss Fortune Shurima Desert Zilean Grim Reaper Karthus Waterloo Miss Fortune Queen Ashe (strangely) Infernal Mordekaiser Sanguine Garen Commando Garen Frejord Rammus Junkyard Trundle Desperada Cassiopeia Siren Cassiopeia Commando Galio Sun Goddess Karma High Command Katarina (strangely) (newer) Lord Mordekaiser Gothic Oriana Harbringer Kassadin Ravager Nocturne Dark Forge Jarvan IV Earthrune Skarner Crimson Elite Talon Winged Husser Xin Zhao Runeborn Xerath Boneclaw Shyvana Darkrider Sejuni Blood Night Hecarim Dark Valkyrie Diana Oktoberfest Gargas (trying too hard) Jade Fang Cassiopeia Blade Queen Lissandra
Most of these will be owned, but are more than likely unused. Some bought only because they looked nice. Others were bought but looked over by newer skins.
Either way you look at this, Riot loses money never the less. This is a "free game" and they depend on us for income.
I'd love more than even this for a new game mode that could stay (forever).
Meanie403 votesGood Lord, the greed right after Christmas has reached insane levels with you people, hasn't it?
Junkο2 votesIt's not really greed if Riot makes us have to pay 10k IP or something. That would be a painfully high amount for recolors actually
Meanie401 votes10k. Really.
I mean, I guess if you're going to be greedy, might as well knock it out of the ballpark...
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It's not really greed if Riot makes us have to pay 10k IP or something. That would be a painfully high amount for recolors actually
I feel 30-50k would be more appropriate or even more. As it would be for players who contribute by playing ALOT and really want that skin for their champ not as an incentive/alternative not to buy rp at all, which is what would happen if skins were anything but under 25k. I can tell you right now it won't happen tho, the same reason you can't earn gold on Facebook games
Megarolf1 votesGood Lord, the greed right after Christmas has reached insane levels with you people, hasn't it?
So spending money on league of legends = being greedy? I don't fucking remember them giving us some free shit during Christmas only a shitty game mode so I don't see how we're being greedy. Sound Tight Logic
Meanie401 votes"Gimme free..." is all I have heard this week.
Yes, items purchased with IP are free. Yes, the bonus RP people want for redeeming their RP cards on Christmas day when the sale was announced 5 days later would be free if Riot granted it.
Those are just two examples of many I have read from players this week.
Aerothal1 votesGood Lord, the greed right after Christmas has reached insane levels with you people, hasn't it?
greed? LOL you think its greedy if i am asking for something special for dedicated players? interesting. tell you what. I've been playing since season 2. i like the game. its the only game i play on a regular basis. I want this game to flourish so i also buy skins and rp. I am not greedy. I am asking Riot to develop something i can use my IP for. Its heaping up and i have no use for it! I would be fine if i could use it to mystery gift someone! I have all champs and all runes. I would love to have a "Veteran Player" skin that can only be obtained by very high amounts of IP.
here are all the skins i have btw. I am not joking when i say that i'm dedicated! http://www.elophant.com/league-of-legends/summoner/na/25880178/skins
Rikari1 votesAll the skins you listed are for unpopular or non meta champions right now. A lot of them have been sold too. seeing that they have been sold,whats stopping them from being sold again?
Shro0mie1 votesI wish they'd do this with OLD skins. You know, the ones they can't sell.
Like: Ruthless Pantheon Armor of the Fifth Age Taric Bird of Prey Anavia French Maid Nidalee Myrmidon Pantheon Giant Enemy Cragot Bilgewater Katarina Enchanted Galio Guerilla Tristana Forsaken Olaf Cowgirl Miss Fortune Shurima Desert Zilean Grim Reaper Karthus Waterloo Miss Fortune Queen Ashe (strangely) Infernal Mordekaiser Sanguine Garen Commando Garen Frejord Rammus Junkyard Trundle Desperada Cassiopeia Siren Cassiopeia Commando Galio Sun Goddess Karma High Command Katarina (strangely) (newer) Lord Mordekaiser Gothic Oriana Harbringer Kassadin Ravager Nocturne Dark Forge Jarvan IV Earthrune Skarner Crimson Elite Talon Winged Husser Xin Zhao Runeborn Xerath Boneclaw Shyvana Darkrider Sejuni Blood Night Hecarim Dark Valkyrie Diana Oktoberfest Gargas (trying too hard) Jade Fang Cassiopeia Blade Queen Lissandra
Most of these will be owned, but are more than likely unused. Some bought only because they looked nice. Others were bought but looked over by newer skins.
Either way you look at this, Riot loses money never the less. This is a "free game" and they depend on us for income.
I'd love more than even this for a new game mode that could stay (forever).
French maid nid and jade dang cass? Those are 2 of the best skins in game imo, got them as soon as I started playing those champs
Yoella5 votesI have mixed feelings about this. On one hand, we really do need a huge IP Sink and I like the idea of selling certain skins for MASSIVE amounts of IP (50K and up). While this would certainly be a high-five to active and long-time players, it would also create a whole new market for botting games for IP. Think about it, out of every 10 people who play this game probably 2 or 3 of them would be willing to pay someone to bot IP for their account to get these skins illegitimately. So you'd probably have a quarter of the people who own these IP skins be people who actually earned them, and three fourths would probably just be bots and botters who want the skins so they LOOK like they've been playing a long time.
Also, from a financial viewpoint there's simply zero profit in this for Riot. Now now, don't insult them for that, it's true. Companies need money to operate. It's not greedy at this point, it's a fact. Now, charging 1350 RP per skin is a bit greedy IMO but that's another topic entirely.
If they were to implement an IP sink regarding skins I think it would be as follows:
50,000 - 80,000 IP for a random skin out of a predetermined pool of skins. Basically, an IP self mystery gift, but with restrictions.
Restrictions:
1 - 3 per year maximum, or whatever the average amount of IP earned by an active player could afford. This is to discourage botting, as you wouldn't be able to get more skins than the above-average person anyway. It's not flawless, but it sets a fair cap.
The pool of skins would be limited to skins that do not sell very well, and maybe some of the Legacies that still don't sell even when they leave the vault. Basically, you wouldn't see any "popular" skins in them. Think of it as a bargain bin. This minimizes profit loss on Riots side (if you get the skin for free you won't buy it with RP if you otherwise would have), while it also maximizes advertisement of the skins (Someone sees you playing with a generally unpopular skin but they think it's neat so they go out and buy it).
Keep in mind that the price of this IP skin chest would NOT be tuned for everybody to be able to afford whatever the cap is every year, but rather as a reward for those of us who play a LOT. So potentially everyone could afford one, but the more actively you play LoL the more frequently you can purchase them.
Also, having any "IP chest specific" skins would just encourage botters a whole lot more than it would encourage active players, so I think that would be a bad idea.
Junkο1 votesActually Riot could potentially benefit from it. If they make it cost a large amount of IP then no lifers like me would buy IP boosts to farm them (assuming they are IP only skins), especially during holidays
Yoella1 votesI did not consider the possibility of IP boosters, yes you're right about that. However, I feel as if I would personally end up paying $15 for IP boosts when the skin is only worth $10. But that's just me lol. Once I let loose my iron grip on my wallet, it all goes out the door. Fast.
Aerothal3 votesOr make it cost some RP PLUS high IP. (even though i like the reward thing better... :P)
Hibeki2 votesDo you realize that it's already extremely difficult to farm 6300 to buy a CHAMPION?
5-6 games a day it takes me TWO WEEKS to get that much.
So to buy a skin it should take me 20 weeks (7 months) to 40 weeks (13 months, which is over a YEAR) to reach that much IP?
Draazur4 votesNot sure if you're aware but there's 52 weeks in a year not 37 so it'd be more like 5 months to 10 months. It's still a really really long time but I don't think OP means people to actually farm skins with IP, but rather just have SOMETHING to spend all that IP on.
Hibeki3 votesMy math is off, you are right.
But still, it's a long time.
JungHai02 votesI think OP isn't saying make a skin available for IP. I think what he wants is an IP sink. If you look at some players who either already have the champions and everything they want, or all the champions, they have a huge amount of IP laying around. He wants to be able to use all that.
Aerothal1 votesDo you realize that it's already extremely difficult to farm 6300 to buy a CHAMPION?
5-6 games a day it takes me TWO WEEKS to get that much.
So to buy a skin it should take me 20 weeks (7 months) to 40 weeks (13 months, which is over a YEAR) to reach that much IP?
well, this post is not aimed at you dude. There is tons of veteran players with over 100k IP on their accounts. I have 51k.
Sarutobi2 votesIt's an awesome idea and I'm shocked that this hasn't been implemented yet! If anything though I feel like recolored types of skins should cost IP. I mean how much IP we talking about per skins. I mean since there are teirs for rp skins they should also make it if they do IP skins. It would suck if you only needed like 100k IP just to get the ultimate skins!
Ale non è male2 votes1000 IP for 1 RP is the best they would even do if they still want to make money out of this game. Literaly
Junkο1 votesbut unless you just want to buy skins (975000 IP for a good skin holy shit), there would be no reason to convert IP to RP except to noob trap new players who are already noob traped by runes and the like.
Ale non è male2 votesWell, this would just be for the ones that have all the champs, all the rune pages and runes needed and have a lot of IP left they can't use at all. It would be a minimal prize for the ones that have spent so much time on LOL to have so much IP that they don't know how to use them, without putting Riot finances in any kind of trouble. If you just want avoid the noob trap you can just lock this option until they have bought an X number of champs/rune pages It would seem fair to me for both sides, Riot(because the amount of time needed to farm all these IP for a single skin would really discourage any kind of bottng accounts to get skins) and the veteran players, who could get some RP here and there that can help them to buy stuff in the market
SirTezla1 votesHonestly, this isn't too greedy. The people who have been here since season 1 and have a ridiculous amount of IP saved up but can't buy anything are being given no reason to play if you can't get anything with the IP.