"I fear not the man who has played a thousand champions once...

Mira Arya Enthe·Nov 20, 2016·94 votes·4,406 views

...I fear the man who has played one champion a thousand times." -

91 Comments

IPromiseTomorrowNov 20, 201639 votes

These are pretty much all the good champs when mastered. Not when picked up. And it's my opinion.

Troubles Of High Skill cap

Are revolved around drastic nerfs* Hush Miyra, I am dormant... They've no need to know. Awake but been sleeping since an eternity ago. They really don't need to know, I'm sure it's ok if we don't tell them. You say it like it were simple You haven't seen the worst of it... Ha, Yasuo! Wuju like to learn to from-... -The Best! There's still more to learn... Indeed, I'm open for a few Students. Albeit there are some problems... They still can't touch what they can't see. The Unseen enemy (ban) is the deadliest... Unless it's the size of a mere human. Remember where you place your words, like your head, mongrel. Behind every damned fate there was a misdeed, the betrayed know this well. As it is now Lamb we'll fade... No Wolf, we'll first wither, hunger, dim, flicker, thirst then... starve... Untill we're non-existant.

If it wasn't accurate I hope it was a fun read.

GULAG 4 UNov 20, 20169 votes

There are more to your list, but Master Yi doesn't belong there tbh. When mastered, Yi just becomes a Yasuo with more DPS but no CC and windwall.

BIG DADDY BARDNov 20, 20162 votes

The better choice would be to remove yi and add someone like Bard

GULAG 4 UNov 20, 20163 votes

Idk about bard, I'd add khazix

GuardAbuseNov 20, 20167 votes

I'd say Bard is high skill cap. He has some of the highest outplay of any supports I'd say.

I QNov 20, 201638 votes

The idea Ekko isnt on here is ridiculous.

Champions good when mastered: Aatrox Ahri Akali Alistar Amumu Anivia Annie Ashe AurelionSol Azir Bard Blitzcrank Braum Caitlyn Cassiopeia Chogath Corki Darius Diana DrMundo Draven Ekko Elise Evelynn Ezreal Fiddlesticks Fiora Fizz Galio Gangplank Garen Gnar Gragas Graves Hecarim Heimerdinger Illaoi Irelia Ivern Janna JarvanIV Jax Jayce Jhin Jinx Kalista Karma Kassadin Katarina Kayle Kennen Khazix Kindred KogMaw Leblanc LeeSin Leona Lissandra Lucian Lulu Lux Malphite Malzahar Maokai MasterYi MissFortune Mordekaiser Morgana Nami Nasus Nautilus Nidalee Nocturne Nunu Olaf Orianna Pantheon Poppy Quinn Rammus RekSai Renekton Rengar Riven Rumble Ryze Sejuani Shaco Shen Shyvana Singed Sion Sivir Skarner Sona Soraka Swain Syndra TahmKench Taliyah Talon Taric Teemo Thresh Tristana Trundle Tryndamere TwistedFate Twitch Udyr Urgot Varus Vayne Veigar Velkoz Viktor Vladimir Volibear Warwick MonkeyKing Xerath XinZhao Yasuo Yorick Zac Zed Ziggs Zilean Zyra

Kled Isnt on there because no one can master Kled! He only can master himself.

GuardAbuseNov 20, 201610 votes

Hell yeah! Every champ! I honestly appreciate this greatly cause when people talk about 'noob' champs it's like, these 'noob' champs require better game knowledge usually. Obv, everybody needs game knowledge but if your annie flash ults just a malphite you're prolly gonna lose that fight.

aspects1Nov 20, 20167 votes

Warwick

GuardAbuseNov 20, 20162 votes

yo uh... uhhh, gotta get the perfect... build? Yeah, perfect build.

LuxrathNov 21, 20162 votes

Ive been surprised by good warwicks before actually. Like wait what? How does something with no mechanics outplay?

aspects1Nov 21, 20162 votes

the ult isnt just cc, it also heals him quite a bit, so maybe it could be used for somethings

Starcraft243verNov 21, 20161 votes

Warwick is all about macro, game vision, decision making and the skill to be at the right place at the right moment. That's why a good warwick will ramp up to 60% winrate when an average one has around 50%.

aspects1Nov 22, 20161 votes

i have a 70% with ww, with 23 games played

Starcraft243verNov 24, 20161 votes

keep this winrate on 200+ games and you are the best warwick World.

aspects1Nov 20, 20161 votes

Warwick ?

I QNov 20, 20161 votes

So knowing when to ult, keeping track of enemy stun CDs etc. isnt something you learn?

Fondling GemsNov 21, 20162 votes

The issue is that the second part isn't WW specific. That is a general skill, therefore some who mastered any champion will be just as good at the skill.

WW ult also isn't very situational. There is a bit of difference between a WW player and someone with equal experience but on a different champion, but compared to most other champions it isn't much.

You basically use it in the same way you use any other CC ability, and so long as you do that you will function at about 80-90% of the efficiency of a WW player skill wise.

In the end most champ mastery is knowing how far you can push your champion. How much damage they take and deal, knowing your cd's without having to watch them. That is really what separates good and bad players on simpler champions.

Just putting it out there.

VisthaNov 20, 20165 votes

Kled isn't on the list, because only Skarl can master Kled.

DUH!

Mistress MadokaNov 20, 20168 votes

http://i2.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/017/225/zAp2LzJ.jpg

VisthaNov 20, 20161 votes

http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/589/673/fb9.gif

Sorta... what the hell Skarl is anyway?

RalanrNov 20, 20164 votes

A wind spirit. Not kidding.

Mistress MadokaNov 20, 20161 votes

I thought he was a Drakolops

RalanrNov 20, 20164 votes

They are wind spirits.

Mistress MadokaNov 21, 20161 votes

Not gonna say I don't believe you, but I don't remember seeing that. Sauce?

RalanrNov 21, 20161 votes

http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/story-art/XIABY305-if-skaarl-the-drakalops-is-a-wind-spirit-perhaps-willump-the-yeti-is-an-ice-spirit

It has a quote from the Q&A

Mistress MadokaNov 21, 20161 votes

Thanks man :D

VisthaNov 21, 20161 votes

And I'm a little effing princess.

I'm also pretty sure that the word "spirit" refers to non-corporeal beings. Being a cowardly lizard ain't very spiritual.

RalanrNov 21, 20161 votes

They're elemental spirits. And Yordles are considered spirits as well.

VisthaNov 21, 20161 votes

I know what Riot said, but I still call this a bullshit.

Especially that part about Yordles.

RalanrNov 21, 20161 votes

Ok...it's fine to have a different opinion but that doesn't change what they are.

VisthaNov 21, 20161 votes

I mean, Yordles were supposed to be descendants of a spacefaring race, not some immortal fairies.

RalanrNov 21, 20161 votes

And originally Yordles were all furry creatures and meglings were a different race of blue people. Then they got retconned into one race.

They've changed a bunch. Now they're a form of fae race.

VisthaNov 21, 20161 votes

Then they got retconned into one race.

Tristana was the only champion released as a megling. After that "Meglings" were yordles being a part of the Megling Commando, the Bandle City Special Force.

RalanrNov 21, 20161 votes

Yeah, AKA they got retconned.

The SoulforgedNov 20, 20161 votes

{quoted}

These are pretty much all the good champs when mastered. Not when picked up. And it's my opinion.

Troubles Of High Skill cap

Are revolved around drastic nerfs* Hush Miyra, I am dormant... They've no need to know. Awake but been sleeping since an eternity ago. They really don't need to know, I'm sure it's ok if we don't tell them. You say it like it were simple You haven't seen the worst of it... Ha, Yasuo! Wuju like to learn to from-... -The Best! There's still more to learn... Indeed, I'm open for a few Students. Albeit there are some problems... They still can't touch what they can't see. The Unseen enemy (ban) is the deadliest... Unless it's the size of a mere human. Remember where you place your words, like your head, mongrel. Behind every damned fate there was a misdeed, the betrayed know this well. As it is now Lamb we'll fade... No Wolf, we'll first wither, hunger, dim, flicker, thirst then... starve... Untill we're non-existant.

If it wasn't accurate I hope it was a fun read.

Did you just say Janna takes skill?

Battlecast SonaNov 20, 20167 votes

To play Janna at a basic level of skill is easy.

But her potential to completely outplay an enemy team with Monsoon is outrageous, as well as her ability to completely and totally destroy her own team's teamfight if she uses it improperly. I think this is what he's referring to.

Mira Arya EntheNov 23, 20161 votes

Shyvana has the fourth highest win potential when played to her maximum according to RoadToMastery and has an extremely sharp learning curve according to stat tracker sites like champion.gg

Mastery is not only about mechanics.

IPromiseTomorrowNov 23, 20161 votes

Yes Yasuo As you can see i haven't done my research.

My extent of knowledge ends at exact numbers, in general(math >.<). But yeah i do get you. Mechanics alone doesn't show the entire skill cieling of a champ alone, like old akali for example. Pretty ok for newbs, but then i saw her winrate... 58% from '125+gamesplayed' on Akali mains, like damn. I'm not saying Akali is for 'the brain-dead' type 'o champ. Just saying that mastering her mechanics won't get anyone thaaaat far.

Pantheon Not mechanically intensive yet highly dangerous in the right hands.

VisthaNov 20, 201621 votes

I once laned against a guy who played only Fiddlesticks . Like after 3 season he had over 2000 ranked games on Fiddle.

He couldn't play for shit.

MarshbouyNov 20, 20163 votes

once played against a guy who spammed only fiora and had a win rate of 1%. 3 wins, 500 losses. I think they were a bot TBH.

VisthaNov 20, 20162 votes

There are no bots on EUNE, though.

UnboundCreatorNov 20, 20165 votes

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once played against a guy who spammed only fiora and had a win rate of 1%. 3 wins, 500 losses. I think they were a bot TBH.

that's an obvious lie bro. They would get carried more than 3 times or the enemy team would have an afk to balance out. downvoted

MarshbouyNov 20, 20161 votes

I'm not lying. This guy intent fed almost every game. I'm 99% sure it was a bot.

AckelopeNov 20, 20161 votes

then how the fuck had he not been banned at that point? lmao...

VisthaNov 20, 20163 votes

Because you can only get banned for being negative in the chat.

Bots and most feeders simply don't use the chat.

VesemirNov 20, 20162 votes

Its because Fiddle is severly underpowered besides his fear. He cant jungle anymore and he sucks in lane except support fiddle which isnt the best pick aswell.

DracocrashNov 20, 20169 votes

what about someone who plays a 1000 champions 1000 times?

kuroblancNov 20, 201622 votes

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what about someone who plays a 1000 champions 1000 times?

but that would be like ... atleast 100 games

Votable JesterNov 20, 20167 votes

http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/bc/bc3b3595deafb7f71efb2aff9110783eb2698c84f165997b18070e9516c7921f.jpg

You just made me think of that xD

NeameanNov 20, 20163 votes

But I would still rather run into a Jack of all trade than a Master of one in blind pick. Like really you can ONLY play mid/top with X champ. No back up champ, flexibility to be in another role? Something for when you don't get your role.

I would always chose the one who is competent in many role over the one who can only succeed in one role because they probably won't get their desired role.