Me: buff Aatrox please? Riot: Who?
Riot: insert gif of Mariah Carey putting on shades and saying 'I don't know, it's like I can't read all of a sudden'.
He is a very Feast or Famine champion sadly :(
That doesn't necessarily make him bad. A lot of champs are like that

and so on. His kit is just bad in general.
His kit is good at only two things, Split pushing, and 1v1 dominance. And as it stands he's trumped in both aspects by other champions.
,
, and
accomplish his goal with equal or better results, but without the quirks of his abilities costing health and his passive.
Throw in his jungle being killed after the removal of devorer and he's sitting in a really bad spot right now.
I know
's case all too well ;-;
I've only played him once and his kit is...meh it really doesn't have much character in it :/
is the type of champion that needs to do good in the early game, or else he'll fall off later on. He's like
or
. I like him for 2 reasons: 1) His theme and 2) His kit makes him a pure 100% assassin. I mean, he'd be the first champion to come to mind if I were talking about assassins in League.
Ok well I need to clarify I only played Aatrox once xD not Shaco I'm fucking lvl 7 on him lmao Anyways yeeee I mean he really depends on that having the lvl and item advantage over others to actually one shot (guess that goes for anybody tho...) I love Shaco ^ I mean I hate clowns with a passion but I love his personality and character .3.
When someone mentions the most annoying champion because they are safe I think of LB .-.
And since Rito decided to pick assassins for the next update, we will now have to wait an entire year till they do anything with him... cause you know, assassins don't have a clear enough role as carry killers while divers pretty much do a little of everything. Honestly I think the real reason they didn't do divers first is cause they don't know how to make them unique to other classes >_>
its really tricky to balance divers because if they make them viable the game will turn into diving league plus if they give them items for diving assasins will just use those items to dive. If anything we dont really need a divers cathegory. Seems like something that cant be balanced.
Well aatrox is basically a mana less version of Xin with a shittier skill set.
I don't know if we could actually have a diving league per se. From how Riot described the class, they are a little bit assassin and a little bit skrisher. Sort of the distraction class for the squishier damage dealing classes. If divers do better, so do other damage dealing champs. Honestly I'd be more worried if we get out of the assassin meta after their update, only to end up with another assassin meta cause diver items end up working extremely well with them.
Prior to tower changes diving was super rampant. Nowhere was safe from malphite...no where.
We're not talking about tower diving, we are talking about the diver subclass. Riot calls them divers cause they dive into the middle of a team fight to take out high priority targets: http://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/news/game-updates/gameplay/dev-blog-classes-subclasses
(essentially a messier assassin if we want to split hairs). Tower diving is something else entirely. Though in malphite's defense, he is a tank and so long as he is being built full tank, being able to tower dive is pretty much part of the package. The trade off is that he shouldn't be able to deal enough damage on his own to land a kill under the turret, since he would have little to no damage.
You whittle them down first.
Huh I always thought those two things were the same. Diver update is def needed for some champs though. Pantheon is really showing his age atm.
Don't even get me started on Panth, He needs a
level update at least. He has a good kit, but it feels about as old as
's or
's without the good win rates to go with it. I'd say he is a great candidate to be focused on for the diver update if it weren't for the fact he might see a larger scale rework. Even then, they could go ahead and do what they did with
by giving a minor change to test a mechanic they might want on his rework.
Tbh he doesnt even need that much work. They just need to give more control over his ult via something like a controlled charge up/ajr time that doesnt give enemies as much time to avoid him but does less dmg for a faster landing.
That's why I think a shen level Rework would be fine. Shen's rework was supposed to keep his core mechanics, just update his model and particles a bit and add a new level of depth to his kit (they just took the changes too far). Panth could definitely use the updated model and it wouldn't hurt if he had a flashier looking spear to match the flashy weapons the other aspects have.
"Aatrox needs a rework" Urgot : What TF is an A-truck?
its cuz he has such a low play rate. http://champion.gg/champion/Aatrox first of all this says his win rate is 47%. also his play rate is at 0.6%. only 2.5k games played. at that level winning one game will chance his win rate (by only .01 percent yes but the point stands). also, those sites only track plat plus, where players at better at fighting those more chaotic reliant champs. obviously 47% is low, but look at shaco. http://champion.gg/champion/Shaco his winrate is really close to 50%, but you need to realize that shaco takes advantage of the power of solo Q. when people have a hard time communicating extremely easily, he wins. aatrox is a similar thing. the problem with buffing these champions, is it wont affect higher levels of play, but it will destroy lower levels. if you look at bronze/silver games, their win rates are quite higher, and they would onlly become perma bans at those levels.
It's more like 250 games lol. But that still proves he's unplayable in high elo and he needs some changes. And honestly I've tried a couple of builds on aatrox recently but tank yi is simply way better😠
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"I feel like aatrox isn't weak"
It has to be a bug. The average winrate for 4v5 is 15%, it's not possible for a champion to be barely any better playing than going AFK the entire game.
well aatrox can commonly be about as useless as an afk...
can't wait till he gets a rework so that at least i didn't waste 6300 ip