Two Yi's Walked Into a Bar

FarRockBF·Apr 17, 2015·10 votes·2,584 views

Which one survived?

OK, so I'm curious; if you are mid Yi vs a mid Yi what would be your optimal build? For arguments sake, let's say all the other players on both teams are irrelevant.

My build would be:

What would your build be?

51 Comments

BerserkGoldfishApr 17, 201521 votes

I thought this was gonna be a joke like:

"two Yi's walk into a bar, they both stub their toes and trip since the bar was their skillcap."

Leti the YetiApr 17, 20153 votes

cowsep has a thing or 2 to say about yi's "cap".... ;l

KwangoTangoApr 18, 20152 votes

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Leti the YetiApr 18, 20152 votes

and why do the millions of bronzies matter? the potential in his kit exists regardless of how many people not actually making use of it like.. idk global warming exist regardless of how little people feel like they are affected by it...

look at mtherfking zed, just cuz there are millions of bronzies smashing their keyboards for kills doesnt mean zed has a low skillcap

KwangoTangoApr 20, 20151 votes

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Leti the YetiApr 20, 20151 votes

Skill FLOOR is low on Yi, similar to champs like Riven, although they still have high skill CAPS.

so... you're agreeing with me now? -tips hat- why didnt you say so earlier good day sir ;l

A Miss FortuneApr 17, 20158 votes

And they both say "gg noob team" despite them going 0/7

Sorry, just my experience with probably a about 90% of Yi players. This once happened to me 3 games in a row.

BitternessCandyApr 17, 20155 votes

u forgot the 1 vs 5 part

Xx420n0sc0p3sxXApr 17, 20157 votes

item 3270 item 3086

Any other build is a troll build.

MeesterMooApr 18, 20152 votes

How about turn those Zeals into Phantom Dancers? lol

Xx420n0sc0p3sxXApr 18, 20152 votes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-fIOrUTIOQ

AMYS GRAVEApr 17, 20156 votes

item 3046 item 3072 item 3047 item 3031 item 3071 item 3022 item 3361

FarRockBFApr 17, 20153 votes

{quoted}

So many things are wrong with this build.

Xx420n0sc0p3sxXApr 17, 20156 votes

normally, sure it's not great, but in a Yi vs Yi it's fine

I'd get rid of cleaver tho.

FarRockBFApr 17, 20152 votes

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normally, sure it's not great, but in a Yi vs Yi it's fine

I'd get rid of cleaver tho.

And frozen mallet? The Yi with Randuins will win hands down.

AMYS GRAVEApr 17, 20151 votes

Randuins has a cd, FM doesn't. FM gives AD while Randuins doesn't. FM gives more health to deal with yi's burst and true damage which Randuins doesn't. There are pleanty of reasons to take FM over Randuins.

demolition8rApr 18, 20152 votes

There is no point in having a slow if they straight up out damage/can take more damage than you and kill you with a better item than 30 physical damage and health. Maybe the health would make frozen mallet worth it but I think a lifesteal item or randuin's would be better.

junglerboy16Apr 17, 20151 votes

I'd say trinity force instead of FM on Yi, it allows for great burst if you Q+Proc passive, because that is about 1600 straight damage late game, upwards of 1800 with E activated, and even more if Q, your AA, or your passive crits.

AMYS GRAVEApr 17, 20152 votes

Yeah, maybe swap cleaver for LW. I would argue that the synergy with yi's alpha strike makes BC a better armor pen item in this situation (not overall) because of the added health and AD. You alpha strike in and cut 5-15% of their armor +10 flat armor immediately which is pretty good especially if the enemy yi is building glass cannon. It's arguable though. It's also build after the laning phase so it's to deal with the rest of the enemy team more than the enemy yi.

junglerboy16Apr 17, 20151 votes

you only hit once with Q, so it would do a max of 5% shred. Also, they are reworking BC next patch to not have flat pen.

Youmuu's or LW are both far superior options.

AMYS GRAVEApr 17, 20151 votes

You've got a little armour to mitigate the physical damage, you get health to deal with Yi's true damage, lifesteal to trade, Crit which is core to yi's build, a couple heavy ad items to make the crit hurt, the MS and the FM slow to stick to targets the BC to shred armour. This build gives you everything you would want on Yi, unless i'm missing something this build gives you what you want in that mirror matchup.

nujtuApr 18, 20153 votes

item 3198 item 3200 item 3196 item 3197 item 3090 item 3274 best yi build

Big Bang BobApr 18, 20153 votes

item 3599

I'll kill Yi by throwing in more Yi's.

Toa of DeathApr 18, 20152 votes

I came here looking for a groan-inducing pun. I was disappointed.

BronzeVOnlyApr 17, 20151 votes

item 3153 item 3172 item 3142 item 3072 item 3143 item 3031

FarRockBFApr 17, 20151 votes

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Touche'

TehNACHOApr 17, 20151 votes

Hi, I used to play Mid Yi almost religiously a while ago.

item 3041 item 3141 item 3046 item 3031 item 3035 item 2140

Rawr

FarRockBFApr 17, 20151 votes

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Hi, I used to play Mid Yi almost religiously a while ago.

Rawr

Even if you would use that ridiculous build two things would need to change:

item 3046 --> item 3087 (why not get a second great passive?) item 3035 --> item 3072

You are snowballing vs a non-tanky lane; why don't you have life steal, and why are you building armor pen? And no, even with a fully stacked mejais; you still need lifesteal.

TehNACHOApr 17, 20151 votes

/it was a joke, I would think the double snowball items would be obvious enough

Pffthaha, my usual build actually would be: item 2140 item 3142 item 3153 item 3031 item 3046 item 3035

Well, that's how it ends, usually. I would by a item 1053 early on when necessary, and item 1001 (although I would often sell it without upgrading by late game) to help with movement if I deem necessary.

I also have a more "Cowsep"/melee carry play style instead of a traditional assassin. What I do is attack the closest thing to me to charge my Alpha Strike as fast as possible, so that I can dodge enemy CC as they come at me with Alpha Strike. Because of this, I need to optimize for tank busting, as my play stye will often pit me against tanks.

Also, I don't like Shiv on Yi (specifically melee carry Yi, I appreciate SS on Assassin Yi). There's no kill like overkill, and Master Yi is a late game champ (PD>SS in the late game).

FarRockBFApr 17, 20151 votes

{quoted} Also, I don't like Shiv on Yi (specifically melee carry Yi, I appreciate SS on Assassin Yi). There's no kill like overkill, and Master Yi is a late game champ (PD>SS in the late game).

I'm too lazy to do the math but I would imagine item 3142 + item 3153 + item 3046 + + Highlander would go over the 2.5 AS max, hence a waste of money.

TehNACHOApr 17, 20151 votes

Again, Cowsep Melee Carry play style here. I don't reserve all my cool downs for one moment of burst like an Assassin, I have to temper my play style so I can respond to the opponent optimally at any given instance. Highlander and Youmuu's aren't infinitely granting, so I need to build around it.

Consistency, friend, is how you play and win as Yi, not being retarded and button mashing everything at once.

EDIT: Example of why I would want the extra attack speed Objective control. Late game, Yi's only "proactive" command is to take turrets or epic monsters, as he can't initiate fights in the same way other champions can. What this means is that if I really want to push and generate advantage to win, I'd need to go off and start auto attacking a lot. The surplus of stats from double PD leads to ridiculous objective control without needing to utilize Highlander or Youmuu's Ghostblade, meaning I am at full power to duel anybody who tries to stop me. Without PD though, it would be far too easy to excuse using Highlander and/or Youmuu's when taking objectives, and could leave Yi prone to counterattack.

junglerboy16Apr 17, 20151 votes

I would think having a BT would be better than a BotRK when at full build like that, simply because it gives you that much more damage on Q, passive, crits, and E active and passive. You gain 100% AS from the double PDs, as well as 70% crit, and that crit loves having better raw AD to multiply, and the 30% AD ratio on E's active is also best with raw AD when you already have that much AS.

TehNACHOApr 19, 20151 votes

Ehh, when playing the melee carry play style, the damage on Q is negligible. The entire point of Alpha Strike when trying to utilize it this way is to use it defensively for negating CC. While yeah, it's a fair argument to say Alpha Strike may do more damage, that's not the point. Not to mention, lots of fighting tanks, as I've mentioned earlier. Burst based damage like Alpha Strike doesn't faze tanks anyway, but Blade of the Ruined King's damage sure does.

That and all of Yi's auto attack modifiers scale better on attack speed (at least back when I calculated it at the end of S4) in the first place, so ehh.

SlackerboyTCApr 17, 20151 votes

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Even if you would use that ridiculous build two things would need to change:

--> (why not get a second great passive?) -->

You are snowballing vs a non-tanky lane; why don't you have life steal, and why are you building armor pen? And no, even with a fully stacked mejais; you still need lifesteal.

Meijas not needed, bloodthirster definitely a must but I dont know about your argument for stattik, PD is great for dueling.

XeroKimoApr 17, 20151 votes

Ahhhhhhh if only I can use my season 2 yi build........ item 3031 item 3046 Excutioner's calling (rip) item 3072 item 3006

I remember my days of 2.5 attack speed yi, 42% lifesteal 100% crit chance 340 ad and applying grevious wounds every hit...... RIP RIP RIP

FarRockBFApr 17, 20152 votes

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Ahhhhhhh if only I can use my season 2 yi build........ Excutioner's calling (rip)

I remember my days of 2.5 attack speed yi, 42% lifesteal 100% crit chance 340 ad and applying grevious wounds every hit...... RIP RIP RIP

Season 2?

item 3089 item 3009

Full CDR Runes

XeroKimoApr 17, 20151 votes

More like item 3041 item 3141 Leviathan and Leviathan

CundiffApr 17, 20151 votes

item 1055 {item:1055}}

IcyPepperApr 17, 20151 votes

item 3075 item 3047 item 3078 item 3071 item 3091 item 3068

just to screw with you

aaronconlinApr 17, 20151 votes

item 3006 item 3075 item 3142 item 3031 item 3153 item 3046 item 2140 Alternatives: for item 3047 for item 3143

CerbearusApr 18, 20151 votes

item 3718 (with tons of stacks ofc) item 3031 item 3046 item 3072 item 3075 item 3153

EndlessSorcererApr 18, 20151 votes

item 3047 item 3153 item 3046 item 3072 item 3031 item 3075

Bloodthirster and Blade of the Ruined King for healing, Thornmail and Ninja Tabi for damage reduction, Thornmail to return damage, Phantom Dancer and Infinite Edge for critical strike change, high AD and attack speed for Wuju Style.

XengreApr 18, 20151 votes

If the other players are irrelevant and you just want to kill Yi than item 3031 item 3035 item 3046 item 3072 item 3142 item 2140 and full ASPD rune page. The DPS is going to be far greater than other builds listed here and the only way for another melee champ to beat it is with Thornmail (in which case you would have to change the entire build to deal with Thornmail). If they don't have thornmail the amount of armor they have is irrelevant as they will die instantly.

Your lookin at more than double the DPS listed by OP. Shame this build is so stupidly expensive as Twitch could hit potentially ~25k dps with the right build (ult hitting 5 players) allowing for a fairly easy 1v5 in the right circumstances.