When I'm against Yasuo in one for all

Hyrum Graff·Jun 18, 2016·9 votes·1,539 views

Doesn't matter what champ I'm playing, this is my build.

Unless the champ I'm playing doesn't need cdr, in which case I'll drop the FH for either a sunfire or another randuins.

43 Comments

TyroneWatermelonJun 19, 20163 votes

It doesn't matter because mr.balanced skillfull ignores 50% of that instantly

Imperial JapanJun 19, 20162 votes

...? Just because you lost to a Yasuo a game ago doesn't mean he's unbalanced or unskilled... Especially when you don't play Yasuo and you're saying he's unskillful just because you don't know how to counter play him. Besides, he ignores none of those items. The crit reduction takes away a good chunk of his damage, the boots auto reduction hits his q and autos, the frozen heart gives auto reduction which will reduce his q speed, and thornmail will fuck him up.

TyroneWatermelonJun 19, 20161 votes

Ok unranked scrubby. As a above average ELO,very expirienced player and a former Yasuo main myself,I can confirm Yasuo barely requires brain for the power in his kit. Also if you didn't knew,Yasuo ignores 50% bonus armor penetration when he presses R for 15 seconds,thus making literally half of your armor from any source outside base armor,completely useless. And this doesn't even count last whisper.

TyroneWatermelonJun 19, 20161 votes

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Ok unranked scrubby. As a above average ELO,very expirienced player and a former Yasuo main myself,I can confirm Yasuo barely requires brain for the power in his kit. Also if you didn't knew,Yasuo ignores 50% bonus armor penetration when he presses R for 15 seconds,thus making literally half of your armor from any source outside base armor,completely useless. And this doesn't even count last whisper.

Forgot to mention-blood thirster makes thornmail useless,the 10% crit reduction is almost useless as well,the ninja tabi however is very useful.

Imperial JapanJun 19, 20161 votes

above average elo includes pretty much everyone over the bronze rank Also I wasn't thinking about the ult armor reduction, its 4AM and i barely had any sleep since yesterday night so mb for the blood thirster part, it doesn't make the thornmail useless as it still damages yasuo. Although Yas will heal up from it he won't have the same amount of healing as he would have if the thornmail wasn't present allowing the thornmail wearer to deal more damage. Also going back to the armor pen but the 30% crit reduction will still hit like a truck due to it

TyroneWatermelonJun 19, 20161 votes

It does make sense,but I'm on the edge of thinking it doesn't really stack,and even if it does,the passive don't and it's a huge waste of gold efficiency. Also i played few full armor tanks vs Yasuo,trust me,thornmail does nothing,when he gets Blade of the Ruined King/bloodthirsty,mercs and maw for mr,while ignoring most of your armor combined with ult and Dominik,and even THEN you can't win in extended fight because you build full tank with zero damage

Imperial JapanJun 19, 20161 votes

It depends on what champion you pick as well. Whether you're AD with high base damage or suitability or if you have high amounts of cc or if you're gangbanging one yasuo

Imperial JapanJun 19, 20161 votes

Anyways yeah good night for now, i'll argue some more tomorrow <3

Imperial JapanJun 19, 20161 votes

RIght now, as i'm still very tired i won't go into doing math and figuring out what build yasuo would take (although im assuming PD>IE>Bork>GiantSlayerLW>BT>Berserkers) the 30% crit reduction will take away from his main dmg source and the 15% attack speed reduction from randuins passive paired with frozen hearts atk spd reduction aura (of another 15%) will take away from the speed at which he inflicts damage. The ninja tabis will also block 12% of basic damage which will also hurt his damage output whereas the 1500 health from the randuins will help you survive. as for the reflection of damage on thornmail it inflicts 25% of your armor (pre armor reduction) to the attacker and 15% of Yasuo's dmg back to him which means it'll do a fair amount of damage. Also assuming that the person with this build would be a tank the damage output will be still fairly low over the bork and BT the thornmail will still hurt. (Are we including elixirs?) anyways this is getting too complicated so ill come back tomorrow, good night. I'm pretty much dead xd

Hyrum GraffJun 19, 20161 votes

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It doesn't matter because mr.balanced skillfull ignores 50% of that instantly

He doesn't ignore the 40% damage reduction to his basic attacks. Randuin's passive stacks.

Void NargacugaJun 18, 20161 votes

And if he went AP?

Vistha KaiJun 18, 20161 votes

OP's fucked.

Void NargacugaJun 18, 20161 votes

Yasuo : Hmm... Fuck it AP!

QUICK! SUGGEST A PLAUSIBLE AP BUILD!

Vistha KaiJun 18, 20161 votes

item 3115 item 3100 item 3285 item 3089 item 3135 item 3020

Void NargacugaJun 18, 20161 votes

BRB! ONE FOR ALL HERE I COME! Jk... I'm not even playing right now.

[zombie-nunu-tears] But I'm jotting that build down now...

Hyrum GraffJun 18, 20161 votes

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BRB! ONE FOR ALL HERE I COME! Jk... I'm not even playing right now.

[zombie-nunu-tears] But I'm jotting that build down now...

Yasuo's E scales with AP. He has no other AP ratios but he scales with attack speed and movement speed. So the items you want are going to focus on attack speed and giving him AP scalings.

So I'd do this instead: item 3285 item 3115 item 3146 item 3100 item 3020

last item

vs ad item 3157 vs ap item 3091

Void NargacugaJun 18, 20161 votes

I was just trying to be funny. But that does look very good!

Hyrum GraffJun 18, 20161 votes

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I was just trying to be funny. But that does look very good!

Lol, I wasn't really expecting you to play that -- with the arpen from yasuo's ult combined with LW and some flat arpen if you want, the only way to stop him from doing damage is the build in the OP of this thread. If everyone on the enemy team does that, going AP is the way to go. Otherwise, AD scales better.

I mainly just enjoy theorycrafting.

Void NargacugaJun 18, 20161 votes

Me personally though for Yasuo I'd probably try something like this: item 3087 (or item 3046 ) item 3031 item 3146 item 3065 item 3143 (or maybe item 3742 ) item 3285 . Not sure how effective this would be but it seems fun to me.

Theory crafting is really fun and its how I came up with my Malzahar build honestly: item 3116 item 3146 item 3071 item 3165 item 3512 item 3135 (not in that order though)

Hyrum GraffJun 18, 20161 votes

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Me personally though for I'd probably try something like this: (or ) (or maybe ) . Not sure how effective this would be but it seems fun to me.

LIGHTNING YAS

Theory crafting is really fun and its how I came up with my build honestly: (not in that order though)

Ashe summoner 11 summoner 4 item 1412 item 3006 item 3071 item 3046 item 3156 item 3143

u wot m8

Void NargacugaJun 18, 20161 votes

That Ashe has single target destruction with that build. XD

Hyrum GraffJun 19, 20161 votes

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That Ashe has single target destruction with that build. XD

It's meant to:

Engage with ult, then either
- Peel for carries with passive, while being burst resistant if the diver decides to swap to you or
- Counter engage with ult on enemy adc, then move forward and 1v1 the enemy adc. You'll lose, but you'll buy enough time for your team to clean up the rest, and get the enemy adc low enough that they're not comfortable moving forward to do the damage they need to to clean up.

http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=Ashe+Jungle

KANYE OBAMA GODJun 19, 20161 votes

I tried a build similar to that one way before MYMU actually, I should give it another go just for funsies.

Hyrum GraffJun 18, 20161 votes

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So I'd do this instead:

last item

vs ad vs ap {{item:3091

Void only if they reaaaly have a lot of MR. You have no base damages and low damage overall, so you're going to do better going a slightly tankier build. This one has a little bit of resists and healing from gunblade.

Akali is SO HOTJun 18, 20161 votes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QWn39VlsWiM

Best AP Yas NA

Void NargacugaJun 19, 20161 votes

Now that I'm off my phone... watches & instantly recognizes music OMG! TheFatRat Time Lapse!

Looks like you had a LOT of fun.

Pierce The VealJun 18, 20161 votes

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: Hmm... Fuck it AP!

QUICK! SUGGEST A PLAUSIBLE AP BUILD!

Nashor's tooth, lich bane, ludens echo, hextech item, rab cap. Whatever boots you want.

ShonjlJun 19, 20161 votes

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: Hmm... Fuck it AP!

QUICK! SUGGEST A PLAUSIBLE AP BUILD!

All that honestly matters is Nashor's Tooth, then just do whatever you want, the AP will make your Nashor empowered autos hurt.

Hyrum GraffJun 18, 20161 votes

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And if he went AP?

I did have a lot of fun playing AP jarvan in an all for one vs rammus last year.

Void NargacugaJun 18, 20161 votes

Must have been brutal for the Rammus players.

Hyrum GraffJun 18, 20161 votes

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Must have been brutal for the players.

I think I did the 2nd highest damage on my team, lol.

Void NargacugaJun 18, 20161 votes

Sounds like it was worth it then!

Yaśuo MainJun 18, 20161 votes

The team I played Yasuo with had like 2 yasuo's with 75% Bonus Armor Pen

AND, combine that with ult

lol get shrekt

RenascentJun 18, 20161 votes

The whole point of the build is to turn Yasuo's strengths against him. Yasuo tends to get 100% crit, and through the stackable Randuin's crit damage reduction along with Ninja Tabi, one can reduce Yasuo's damage by ~50%, no matter how much armor pen he has.

Yaśuo MainJun 19, 20161 votes

Well, going by this. We all Yasuo's being at least fed by 7 kills had been doing 700-1000 crit damage

350-500 critical hit damage for an auto isn't gonna change the game too much.

BemaponJun 18, 20161 votes

Yup. We had the same idea.

Imperial JapanJun 18, 20161 votes

Why don't you go just one randuins? I'm pretty sure the 10% crit reduction doesn't stack.. So maybe go item 3143 for the direct yasuo counter item 3110 for attack speed reduction item 3025 for movespeed reduction, cooldown, and armor item 3068 for extra damage item 3047 for armor, passive, movespeed item 3075 for armor and more damage

Hyrum GraffJun 19, 20161 votes

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Why don't you go just one randuins? I'm pretty sure the 10% crit reduction doesn't stack.

It's not unique. They stack.

Imperial JapanJun 19, 20161 votes

Oh well that's cool!

JerulEonJun 19, 20161 votes

THEY STACK?? LOL this made your post funnier XD

H 3Jun 19, 20161 votes

What I do too for any champ in one for all especially burst mages. I stack 4+ MR items with titanic hydra if melee and demolish. Tank kat works in it pretty funny 5 man all tank katarina Titanic Hydra rest tank max w then e first with grasp of undying. Best when facing only single damage champs that can't hybrid. Make their combos do nothing. I was tanking 2 fiddlestick ultimates and stilled killed both with it.