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Sahn Uzal46 votes

No I do not need a QSS item 3140 on Gangplank.... https://media4.giphy.com/media/7fS3a1RlyY0DK/200.gif

Marshbouy2 votes

rip GP patch 6.11. Crit on trinity force will be missed

Sahn Uzal14 votes

The champion still works, IE second item feels pretty awkward now though, so I've been building Trinity force > BF sword > Zeal > Finish IE.

And being unable to get 100% crit chance is really fucking abnoxious. I just played a game as GP, 80% crit chance, nailed a 3 barrel combo on the enemie MF doesn't crit. I flash AA (stattick Shiv Proc) doesn't crit either.

''How RNG can tilt a person'' in a nutshell

VasilisGreen5 votes

OMG I DIDN'T CRIT, WHAT IS THIS RNG Basicaly that's rng nowadays

Marshbouy2 votes

i have no idea why they made that change. Trinity was pillar to a lot of champion's kits, now its barely a "trinity" anymore

Sahn Uzal2 votes

Trinity force is indeed an important pillar to his itemisation. Which is a large part of why IE Second is so awkward now.

I'd love to see Riot ad an item that GP can build second, to close the wound the Triforce change opened. for example... 50 AD, 20% crit, 20% AS, and a passive that gives you more crit chance when building attackspeed.

Like how ER gives you CDR for building Crit chance. This item obviously wouldn't stack with ER, but it'd really help GP and Corki out, since ER now overcaps CDR for them (ER gives 30% cdr, TF gives 20 on it's own...) out ;p

Marshbouy8 votes

Yep. I'm afraid champions like Tryndamere would get crazy.

Sahn Uzal6 votes

Tryndamere gets 30% crit chance for free item 3087 = 30% item 3031 =20% Passive = 30%

These 3 already give him 80% crit, the item would just straight out be a waste of money on Trondlemire

Marshbouy5 votes

hmm. Maybe crit+as jax? Crit irelia? 100% crit ADCs everywhere. I dunno but i think reverting the trinity change is best here

DREADN0UGHT27 votes

Kindred 5/0/7 item 1419 item 3111 item 2032 item 3022

''wtf Kindred, why do you have Frozen mallet''

EDIT: If you get really ahead as Kindred, and the enemy team is 4 melee, immobile champs, yes... yes, I rush mallet....

Malicious Metal28 votes

You're evil.

I like you

DREADN0UGHT5 votes

Its in my nature, fam.

HighH14 votes

{quoted}

Its in my nature, fam.

That word makes me die a little on the inside

Jet Sett4 votes

Nature?

Surge063 votes

I've always wanted to try frozen mallet...Does it work against most comps?

DREADN0UGHT3 votes

Given you can kyte, it has its uses vs immobile champs. It won't do much vs shit like Diana fot example. U are better off with Maw or steraks.

MavenSong15 votes

"Max W first on Sona "

No.

(You want the early harass of your q early, and the mana cost increase of her heal early hurts)

Sahn Uzal1 votes

I know jack dick about playing Sona, but isn't W max a thing in certain matchups? if you are Sona Vayne vs Caitlyn Zyra for example... Your Q ain't gonna outpoke those people, and Vayne just wants to farm anyway, wouldn't you max W to help Vayne out with that lane sustain? :p

Then again, I don't know anything about playing Sona, so I'm not claiming it's a thing you should do ;p

MavenSong2 votes

Using w too often makes you go OOM super fast. Leveling hastens this. That's a case of lane won via champ select more than likely.

Also remeber that they have no sustain and we would, so it would be a hell of a war of attrition. Itd be a difficult matchup, but id still max q first (hell 90% of the time I Q > W > Q> E)

Canidae4 votes

I actually do that a lot on Sona. You lose out on the Q dmg (i only put 2 points in till W's maxed), but when I rush item 3070 on her, you end up having enough mana to sustain your adc in lane fairly well, which helps a ton in lane. But yeah, unless I get that specific item on her, it's really hard to go W build.

now figuring out what order to level skills early if I still want 2 pts in Q....that's a whole 'nother story.

KONO RUBICK DA10 votes

"build aghanim zeus, it's gud"

Faceroll Tactics1 votes

aghanim refresher on zues can pretty much evaporate people for free kills every time refresher is up

KONO RUBICK DA1 votes

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aghanim refresher on zues can pretty much evaporate people for free kills every time refresher is up

octarine core aether lens zeus can evaporate everyone from 1500 range every time someone come near him.

Faceroll Tactics1 votes

Are those items new?.... Haven't played Dota in a year or so but my favorite heroes were Shadow Fiend, Templar Assassin, and Zeus.

KONO RUBICK DA4 votes

yes they are, octarine core is the only cdr item in the game (with 20% spell vamp not reduced for aoe damage) making zeus hard to kill

aether lens gives you % bonus damage on your spells and bonus range on active spells.

Over Innsmouth6 votes

The amusing thing about Vlad is that as long as an item has AP and/or HP, it's good on you.

Granted, there are definitely some items that are better than others (items that have CDR, Spirit Visage and Rylai's are just better than anything else on Vlad, etc...), but the general idea is that it's very, very hard to build poorly on Vlad. Full tank Vlad is viable, full AP Vlad is viable, a mix (my personal preference) is viable.

You have to be a special type of stupid to fuck up building him.

I'll admit though, I personally snub item 3157 on Vlad. You already have pool as your safety spell, and the stats are better on other items. I personally take item 3742 for my armour item, which gives me more in the defensive department as well as the nice ms. I don't think it's bad, it's just that Zhonyas is primarily an anti-burst tool, and no one bursts Vlad.

EDIT: I'm also biased because the 4.11 changes didnt result in Zhonyas active + pool turning into a glorious puddle of piss. Pictured below: disappointment.

http://i.imgur.com/qsHYgeb.png

Hello I am Bird7 votes

Vladimir item 3031 item 3072 item 3046 item 3078 item 3006 item 3094?

Over Innsmouth6 votes

http://i40.tinypic.com/ziooyv.gif

Side note: you could make it worse by putting in items that are melee only, so your atrocity is even more useless.

Hello I am Bird5 votes

Its not supposed to be useless.

If you need an ADC, vlad's your guy ;)

Sahn Uzal2 votes

I fucking knew you'd be here talking about Zhonya's

I'm also biased because the 4.11 changes didnt result in Zhonyas active + pool turning into a glorious puddle of piss. Pictured below: disappointment.

You didn't let me down friend, you didn't let me down.

DorsalChicken4 votes

One of the best megatrons easily. Prime was so good compared to some other versions. Also, nobody ever gives me advice on how to Chogath , not sure why though.

Mistress Madoka13 votes

item 3027 item 3027 item 3027 item 3027 item 3027 item 3020 item 2139

Get out the door, get on the floor, everyone walk the Dinosaur!Chogath

WutsKraken4 votes

Rank 6 Gangplank (Gimme my Blue essence dammit) item 3078 item 3009item 3748 item 3053 item 3142 item 3812 Or if I need to kill tanks and duel less: item 3078 item 3009 item 3071 item 3748 item 3053 item 3036 Sell boots for item 3046 Almost every game: Silly teammates: GP wtf why do you have 0% crit? Gangplank In case you forgot, item 3078 has no crit anymore Silly teammates: So? You still need crit? Gangplank Not gonna get 100% again with triforce, switching builds Silly teammates: omfg then don't get triforce and rush a shiv Gangplank [zombie-brand-facepalm] Gangplank Then I do no damage with Shiv rush and my build path will really suck Silly teammates: You need crit though, so get some damn crit Gangplank Fine, I'll buy item 3046 after I sell my boots Silly teammates: something along the lines of "omfg this GP is a troll/idiot/bronze5/report, etc etc etc"

End game: Gangplank More damage dealt than FOTM mid laner and ADC, most CS in game, and most kill participation

invisiblecat13 votes

Someone once told me to get Rylais first item on Katarina :8

DREADN0UGHT11 votes

lol wat. It's all about the sunfire cape rush.

President Swa1n5 votes

And item 3085

Very important.

DREADN0UGHT4 votes

True, if you feel like there are going to be plenty of early skirmishes. But getting it after mallet or Maw is not a bad idea neither.

President Swa1n3 votes

You're right.

And if the jungler is trolling and goes mid with you, just succumb to him and build relic shield.

redniwediS2 votes

I was talking to a Gnar I was up against in the post game, saying GG and all and we were being friendly. I told him I was working on the last mastery level 7 token I need for Garen.

He proceeded to give me advice on how to handle the matchup. It was wrong advice too.

ReZisT Lust2 votes

ap garen with wits end and nashors tooth is best Trust in meAzir

MetalGearTeemu2 votes

Nothing will ever replace deathfire grasp.

Arch-Mage Garen skin when?

Chatillon3 votes

Arch Mage Garen.... ?

I prefer my "Swift Justice" build item 3009 item 3742 item 3094 item 3046 item 3142 item 3031

now where is Laughing Fish with his Justice gif....

JayHog19922 votes

Stop asking me to play Tank Teemo people! It's not viable!

EndlessSorcerer11 votes

item 3022 item 3085 item 3742 item 3091

Make use of your Global Taunt, little yordle.

They will try to kill you no matter how little damage you do.

Teemo Hehe.

Bemapon4 votes

Teemo : item 3085 item 3022 item 3153 item 3091 item 3053 item 3046

This actually kinda worked...

ReZisT Lust1 votes

dont forget to flash after you phase dive the 3rd proc to get outta tower range it saves you ultEkko

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