When you're kicking butt as Anivia and some low skill champ like Xin or Darius says you're useless

Yoella··36 votes·13,567 views

http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2013/080/0/0/carry_the_team__anivia__by_the_ladyamelia-d5yu4gp.jpg

It's like "SERIOUSLY, YOU'VE BEEN KSING ME SINCE LEVEL 4. And now I've got like 40 assists!"

P.S. No hate towards Darius or Xin players, just people who act like this.

Edit: OH MY GOD I MADE IT TO THE FRONT PAGE UNDER HOTTEST. This has gotten 200x bigger than I thought it would.

44 Comments

Sammystorm8 votes

Wait another person plays anivia. wtf

Yoella4 votes

And here I thought I was unique. Lol. We're a rare breed. May the egging be ever in your favor, comrade.

Jakenoff2 votes

Us Anivia players are still here. She is by far, my favorite champion in League. Unfortunately, none of my friends can ADC and actually win, I'm stuck with ADC all the time.

On a positive note, only one more Anivia skin to buy.

Yoella4 votes

She's fun to play and is so rewarding if done well.

RiotRiot 10YearSanta11 votes

I play Anivia specifically to make bird and egg jokes. There's just so many!

If you get killed by Leona it's the perfect time to mention that you are...sunny side up.

Yoella2 votes

A Riot comment on my thread.. give me a minute to breathe here.. whoa.

Alright I've caught my breath. I love how when your passive is in play your name in chat changes to "eggnivia", it's things like that that make this game exceptional.

I play Anivia so that I can watch the enemy jungle and mid die a little inside when they dive in to kill me and I egg and they get killed instead. Schadenfreude is such a great feeling <3

TerraRising2 votes

Inb4 Azir x Anivia friendship requests.

tau436 votes

That picture is a great representation of the average Anivia game.

Captain Aishi4 votes

anivia is the kind of champ i feel like I can 1v5 and win with when i'm having a good game, yet doesn't feel unfair to play against either, so much of your success depends on how you use your abilities and how you position more than anything else

PhoenixOfHeaven4 votes

I Know a Player Known as CryoPhoenixOnly. he is Diamond Rank, and has played only 1 champ.....Anivia. he's played an unbelievable amount of matches with her.

TenSlashTen3 votes

xin so linear, a xin saying anything is worthless is..just hilarious. He's one of the most linear and worthless when unfed champs in the game.

He's more useless than lane evelynn pre six.

PhoenixOfHeaven3 votes

As her, I go all out AP. her Ult becomes unbeatable.

and a interesting fact for tha Anivia players who didn't know, You can use her Ult behind her to slow enemies that are chasing you. I did this with a Jax once. after halfway to my turret, I noticed he dropped to under half health from the ult and I had full health from my spell vamp. used E on him. Instant kill :)

Yoella3 votes

That's pretty much what I do as well, except I have 30 AP in runes and 7.8 Magic penetration, and then I get another 30 magic penetration through rushing boots and Liandry's. If I can get boots while still in lane, which is pretty much all the time, the other mids usually have 30 MR, and I have 20.8 Magic Pen... needless to say every Fiddlesticks and Annie out there hates me xD

I don't do spell vamp on Anivia though. I take a more "don't let them touch me in the first place / egg baits" approach to her playstyle. I get CDR instead. Turns me into a Q spamming, R melting, E cockblocking, badass bird. I use me egg as my sustain. Makes me typically inferior in 1 v 1 duels but turns me into a teamfight GOD.

And everyone just stands in my ulti... it makes things a lot easier, but every time I see a Vayne just stand in my ulti and attack post Liandry I die a little inside.

PhoenixOfHeaven1 votes

That's pretty much what I do as well, except I have 30 AP in runes and 7.8 Magic penetration, and then I get another 30 magic penetration through rushing boots and Liandry's. If I can get boots while still in lane, which is pretty much all the time, the other mids usually have 30 MR, and I have 20.8 Magic Pen... needless to say every Fiddlesticks and Annie out there hates me xD

I don't do spell vamp on Anivia though. I take a more "don't let them touch me in the first place / egg baits" approach to her playstyle. I get CDR instead. Turns me into a Q spamming, R melting, E cockblocking, badass bird. I use me egg as my sustain. Makes me typically inferior in 1 v 1 duels but turns me into a teamfight GOD.

And everyone just stands in my ulti... it makes things a lot easier, but every time I see a Vayne just stand in my ulti and attack post Liandry I die a little inside.

How do u not use Spell vamp? her ult works great with it. I just buy the Will of Ancients or simply some runes.

Yoella1 votes

I just make sure I kill people before they get a chance to kill me. My build is Seraph's Embrace, Sorcerers Shoes, Liandry's, Twin Shadows, Rabadon's, and either Zhonya's or Abyssal Sceptre depending on the situation. If I play smart and stick with my team I have no need of spellvamp, especially with my egg.

PhoenixOfHeaven1 votes

I just make sure I kill people before they get a chance to kill me. My build is Seraph's Embrace, Sorcerers Shoes, Liandry's, Twin Shadows, Rabadon's, and either Zhonya's or Abyssal Sceptre depending on the situation. If I play smart and stick with my team I have no need of spellvamp, especially with my egg.

I Just use the Recommended :09 haven't made a build for her yet.

Yoella1 votes

I find making a build for each champion in each role I play them saves me a lot of time in game shopping and makes me more effective overall. Recommended isn't always the greatest, especially in different situations. It's worth the few minutes to put an item set together.

PhoenixOfHeaven1 votes

Yeah true. I usually make builds, but mostly when I want an item that isn't already Recommended, such as Jungling gear, Items that aren't Jungle-Related for SEjuani, and AD or AP specific builds.

you very nice :) maybe we can play a game together sometime, ill Friend u ingame :)

Yoella1 votes

I'll make sure to accept, it would be nice

PhoenixOfHeaven1 votes

I'll make sure to accept, it would be nice

Sent it to you already. Wen we both find time to get on, we can play. maybe share so Anivia Tips.

Kinda random, If you like Anivia, Sejuani is somewhat similar. and I know a Platinum who knows how to Anivia Jungle. Sadly, had an argument with him where no I don't talk to him. hes also no longer on my Friends list.

Yoella2 votes

She certainly looks cool, and nothings funnier than a Sej v Sej pig fight, maybe I'll give her a go when I get the IP or if she goes free for the week. I like that she's an AD tank. I was trying to learn Maokai Top/Jungle last week and she seems similar. I like Sejuani's Permafrost ability, I tend to be good with most any champion with a reliable slow or stun. I might jungle her.

PhoenixOfHeaven1 votes

Luckily, she has a ton.

and whenever I play her, I demand people refer to me as Bristle(The Pig) rather then Sejuani :)

Yoella1 votes

lol nice

koalaknight2 votes

Well, remember that League is a team game, and getting kills isn't everything. Relax, take it easy, and remember that it is a game to enjoy and have fun.

KS = kill secured where, where having someone else jump in to get the kill is still better for the team since the team gets 1.5 times what you would have gotten if you got the solo kill from that extra assist (you will still get half of the value of the kill). And it's absolutely essential for someone like Xin to get kills early game, where his entire centers around him jumping into the enemy team where he will either be useful where he can jump in, deal a lot of damage and survive, but if he is behind, he just won't be able to do much. If he doesn't get kills in the early game, he will fall behind very quickly since he can't clear the jungle as well as some of the other junglers.

You are still getting the assist gold, and you definitely want Xin to get fed...Would you rather have a fed Xin that jumps into the enemy team and have the enemy team panic and try to deal with him while the rest of your team deals damage, or would you prefer a Xin that doesn't deal much damage that will get bursted down before he could do anything and have the fight instantly becoming 5 vs 4, or to have Xin not go in and have the enemy team try to burst you down?

And Xin jumping into the enemy team... well, it's kind of like Lee Syndrome (when Lee Sin follows up on his Sonic Wave no matter what) where Xin will jump into the enemy team a lot... definitely a bad idea jumping into a team with Fiddlesticks and Thresh.

dustwind84 votes

Well, remember that League is a team game, and getting kills isn't everything. Relax, take it easy, and remember that it is a game to enjoy and have fun.

I agree, but the op isn't complaining about a couple of accidental or even a couple purposeful kills that were stolen... there were 5 times where Xin chose to deny this player the kill, and the full bonus gold (that's the bigger part) for selfish reasons. The op played it off well and didn't chew Xin out. It wasn't until Xin complained about him/her that the OP responded. It isn't about a KS issue alone. It's the whole picture that matters. The combination of the Xin player denying the OP the full gold amount s/he rightfully should have earn t and then saying that s/he is useless. If you should be telling anyone this line it isn't this poster, who remained calm and reacted once attacked. You should be telling the Xin this. You whole heatedly defend Xin's actions when using your own quote would mean that you should be telling the OP that s/he reacted in a remarkable way and that the Xin player needs to learn this fact.

It appears that you didn't read the entire post or bother to understand what the OP is complaining about. The underlying issue that he is pointing out here IS the whole kill system is a flawed way of looking at how good someone is doing. Xin obviously used this flawed scoring system to make a false claim.

I have my own way to judge how good a person did, I take their kills as one point, deaths as -1 and assists at .5. So by the end game, someone who has 4/5/18 (would be 8 points) did better then someone who is 6/2/6 (only 7 points). that's how i judge how people did in a game.

The underlying issue though comes with the last hit mechanism... For minion kills that mechanism is great, For any transferring of buffs, it's great, but for determining who deserves the kill it sucks. For this they would need to change the system to who dealt more damage to the single target. The one who dealt the most would get the credit for the kill, the one who dealt the final blow would get any buffs the target champion had.

Sirin Gioro2 votes

To be honest, the picture is adorable. 8) Anivia carry!

athame1 votes

You forgot fizz,talon, and teemo.

koalaknight7 votes

You forgot fizz,talon, and teemo.

Well, I would assume that Anivia was mid, Xin is jungle, and Darius is top lane. Makes sense for there to be Teemo top, but I don't think there will be too many team comps with Anivia and Fizz / Talon.

But this does bring up an interesting point about whether it's worse if your own team or the enemy team makes fun of your champion pick...

Back on topic.

Well, champions like Darius and Xin are simple to play mechanically, but it won't be easy to play them against experienced opponents who know what to do against them. Darius is extremely vulnerable to kiting and his Q will push lane quite a bit, and Xin does not have any escape abilities where he will basically have to flash to escape if he goes in and things don't go well. And I guess there just aren't as many Darius and Xin players as back when before they got nerfed where people played them because they were OP (I don't think Darius was ever over powered, though).

In terms of Anivia, well, she is a champion with a kind of high skill floor, where it's not too difficult to do decently with her, but her Q and wall does have very, very high skill ceiling (and I guess a very high skill floor for her Q).

But really, though, Anivia is a champion that needs to have a strong front line to peel for her. She has low movement speed and low health, where if the other team baits out the Q, she will be busted down very quickly. Unless you are just landing crazy Q's and walls and getting solo kills, your front line must have been doing something right to peel for you or to draw attention by going for their carries.

The Xin and Darius probably should have had better sportsmanship, but they probably made some good calls and made some good plays, even if they are relatively straightforward in terms of mechanics...

Tapu Fini8 votes

Darius with his full ult reset (no time limit, just a full CD reset if he got a kill) was a tad op.

-hits 6 -dunks lane opponent -lane opponent gets back, dunk was never on cd, gets dunked

Basically if he got ahead, it wasn't even worth going back to the lane unless you were ranged, or your jungler brought a tent.

Junkο1 votes

Another reason Darius had the full reset (and the mercy reset) removed was because Darius players would just take every kill with it and starve the rest of the team from gold (and since he serves no other role than being a tank late game, that was a problem)

Yoella5 votes

My team was Darius top, Xin jungle, Anivia (Me) mid, Nami support and Trist bot. Their team was GP top, Fiddle jungle, Akali mid, and Ashe and Thresh bot.

I was almost completely denying Akali CS with my Q (I'm pretty good with it) through pokes, and once I reached level 4 I was about to use my e to finish off the ~90 health she had left when Xin flashes ahead of me out of the bush and steals it "so he can get ahead" as he put it. Keep in mind I did all the damage myself, he only showed up for the KS. So I recalled to heal and I TPd back to my lane and farmed. Eventually I won my lane and at this point Darius is like 4/1/0 and Xin was 2/2/1 and we had won all but bot lane which was more or less a draw, both sides lost the tower within 2 minutes of eachother. So then we get to teamfighting and I get several assists with my R and Q and I wall to secure a few kills/escapes for the team and I even get a kill myself during all this. At this point Darius stops teamfighting and farms alone for a while, killing a few gankers and gets pretty fed. Meanwhile Xin, Trist, Nami, and I are still fighting together.

So this continues pretty similarly for a while until Darius comes back, and I'm fine getting a lot of assists because I like to help my team. However, on 4 other occasions I'm about to land the killing blow on someone and Xin flashes or rushes in to steal it. That's what pissed me off, not the teamfights but the fact that I'm about 1/2/16 and this guy is still taking my kills. I don't like to be toxic to my team so I bite my tongue and tell him to "cool it". About 3 minutes after that this Xin (who's been acting like he was invincible the whole game despite his 7/6/6 score) charges into dragon to steal it at 3/4th health, and he's charging right into Ashe, Gangplank, and Fiddle like it's nothing. Meanwhile I'm in the bushes between Red and the 2nd mid tower and I see him do this and I move as fast as my frozen ass can to try and Q stun the guys and wall them so he can escape (Because any rational person wouldn't dive into that mess) and to my dismay he runs straight into them and attacks Gangplank, not Ashe or Fiddle... GANGPLANK. Realizing he screwed up he attempts to retreat and I land my Q on Ashe and Fiddle as Xin turns around but Ashe quickly shoots off that 5 arrow slow of hers and GP ulties. I still use my wall to block them, but Fiddle flashes over the wall and uses that leech life thingy on him and kills him. I plop down my ulti so I can escape, but Xin then goes on all chat and calls me a useless teammate. So then I just told him off as it is, and then I told him that at least I'm playing someone with a skill level over 15. He had no response to that, and he was silent for a while after that but DAMN it pissed me off. He ended 8/8/9. 5 of those were my kills....

Joker7751 votes

hey if u are good at anivia. do u have any tips?

Yoella4 votes

Yeah I sure do. I'm not sure of your skill level with her so I'll just do a broad spectrum of tips unless you tell me what you specifically want.

First thing you've got to know is that Anivia has a maximum skill level for a reason, she's potentially amazing but can also be a major drain on your own team.

  1. Your W wall can block most jungle paths at skill level 2 if placed correctly, you can use this to help your jungler turn around a jung v jung fight or help your team escape a chase. Your wall can also block Sions ultimate. Be careful with your wall, it has a small cast time so place it slightly ahead of an enemy, and take extra care not to trap your own team behind it. Your wall can turn a game on its head when used correctly, but can be a total toss if used poorly. If your wall is placed directly on top of an enemy channeling an ability it will interrupt them.

  2. Your Q is your best friend. It's your primary damage, your stun, and your main escape all in one. Anivia's Q takes some practice and skill to aim, as it's a slow projectile with a fairly long range. Aiming it is something you really have to teach yourself through experience, however I can tell you to take advantage of it whenever you can. Your Q can do 2x damage to an enemy and stun them. When the projectile goes through an enemy it deals damage once, and when you detonate it by pressing Q again it will deal the same damage again in an AoE slightly larger than the projectile itself. So let it pierce an enemy, and then detonate. Do not detonate unless it hits them first for maximum damage. Reading the enemy's movements and aiming ahead of them in conjunction to the above is crucial for Anivia and separates the average from the great.

  3. If you are being chased you have 3 options: You can send back your Q and stun the pursuers, if you're in a jungle or at a river entrance you can wall it off with W, and if all else fails or your enemies are too far out to stun with Q you can plop your Ultimate (R) behind you and usually get away.

  4. Your E is amazing. Truly this ability is what makes Anivia a cold feathered killer. And the best part is everyone underestimates it. It's well known that your E will do double damage to an enemy recently hit by your Q or R but most people don't realize how much damage they'll take with your full combo wombo. Double hit and stun them with Q, keep approaching and hit them with E. Next follow up immediately with your R (they should be running away from you by now most of the time, if they chase you and you cannot kill them, wall and run) and after placing your R if you are close enough and have a chance use your W wall to make them walk sideways out of your R, as this gives you an extra tick or two of damage and your Q might be off CD by now to do it all over again.

  5. My starting build is a item 1027 sapphire crystal and potions, then I build item 3070 Tear out of that and then I rush item 3020 Sorcerers Shoes for the magic pen. This gives me some extra umph in lane. Next I build item 3003 Archangel's Staff out of Tear for the mana regen, extra AP, and the shield that comes later when it reaches 700 bonus mana. Next, and this is crucial, build item 3151 Liandry's Torment as fast as you can. I cannot stress this enough. Liandry's will turn you R into a swirling vortex of frozen death. It will make you do immeasurably more damage. After Liandry's I usually go for item 3023 Twin Shadows for the combined CDR, Movement Speed, AP, and the extra slowing ghosts it sends out when activated. It can also be used to discover a gank if you suspect you're being watched, as it seeks out the nearest 2 enemy champions and slows and reveals them. By this point I've often already won, but if it drags on I pick up item 3089 Rabadon's for the AP, and either item 3001 Abyssal Sceptre for the magic resist and penetration, or item 3157 Zhonya's for the armor and active. The last two are situational.

And with that I'm out of text space on this post lol. Anything else? Egg tips? Runes?

Joker7751 votes

awesome thanks. do u know phoenix of heaven? just wondering?

UncensoredAngel1 votes

Anivia can kick ass? wtf

Yoella9 votes

She has a very high skill floor. A lot of people can play her well, but only the chosen few can kick ass with her item 3069 Anivia item 3069

ThatAutofillSupp3 votes

imo she's basically full ap nunu's snowball (if her opponent is slowed by her stun or ult her e does double damage) with a wall and a super useful passive for baits

UncensoredAngel3 votes

Nunu has sustain though

ThatAutofillSupp4 votes

anivia has 2 lives though :P and most of the time rod of ages for sustain (plus no one will complain "ohh your not meta blah blah blah")

Yoella2 votes

The two lives is nice, but it's only useful in situations where they can't kill it before you respawn. It's an awesome feeling when you're kicking someones butt and they finally use everything to kill you and you still have your egg and you come back and kill them again.

ThatAutofillSupp1 votes

yup ^^ i build sort of tanky so its really hard to kill off my passive

Yoella1 votes

I find that if I build tanky I lack the damage I require to kick ass and take names. I usually only get a tanky item near the endgame if I'm starting to peak. And even then I get item 3001 for the magic penetration, or Zhonya's for armor.

ThatAutofillSupp1 votes

ahh okay but I'm just a bit weird i guess, most of the time i play tanknivia top

S0NA1 votes

Agreed, but it's even funnier when the enemy Fizz you shut down says this.

And refuses to acknowledge that he lost because he only knows how to kill Jayces and Zeds.

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