What its like picking Support in team builder
Should i start this game? or should i find a better team? http://i.imgur.com/FCzqhKg.jpg[/img]
Should i start this game? or should i find a better team? http://i.imgur.com/FCzqhKg.jpg[/img]
More like: Riot, why don't you reward me for doing what no one wants?
Support is probably one of my favorite of roles/lanes to play, not everyone hates support lol. It usually depends on the ADC I'm supporting though. If it's a good Jinx, Ezreal, or Vayne I'd probably choose to support over almost anything else. But if it's someone boring like Twitch then yeah....
Always Love Support (AKA, the Carry), norms play morgana or thresh with my bro adc(Aka, The support)... After most games tho my bro will try to murder me.
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He never said twitch was weak. He said Twitch was boring.
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He never said twitch was weak. He said Twitch was boring.
Talking about how fun a Twitch was with Sona, imo anyway
You forgot to mention how great and fun it is to support a glorious 
Oh yeah, a good Draven with a Leona/Thresh/Blitz can be bot Nirvana for both players involved. And usually lead into a free win when Draven inevetably snowballs off of his first kill.
A friend of mine who showed me the game to begin with currently mains Draven, a good Draven is actually really fun to support too. It's a challenge since his early game is probably his weakest due to his scaling on his spinning axe, however his early game determines the rest of his game. If he gets fed early game, he stomps mid game and nobody can 1v1 him and he hit's his late game before everyone else. If he doesn't get a kill or two at least, he probably will just be there. Still, he's really fun to support when you have a good Draven.
Not to mention if you're unfortunately in the state of just "being there", then all it can take is a kill from a well used whirling death in a team fight or just picking someone out for you to cash in! I've had many games where I was behind and quickly reclaimed the advantage that way!
Does it all with style!
Unless it‘s Thresh free week. Then everyone plays support.
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Unless it‘s Thresh free week. Then everyone plays support.
The support you will be looking for is pronounced TAHM
I believe it's actually pronounced "pay-back for all those horrible Kalisa ults". He's going to be my new go-to every time I get stuck with her (Support main).
(F Kali)
At least Kalista gets the choice of using his ult... unlike her ult.
F Kalista.
It feels like going into work in cargo pants, flipflops, and a straw hat (no shirt). Because you're just that necessary to the company.
did some one call for cargo pants and flipflops, and a straw hat ( with an unbutttoned shirt). because your that important
Never mind wielding it. How would you even draw that sword? Throw the bloody sheath at the other guy?
These giant sword obsessions are stating to get out of hand. :/
Everyone has their fetish.
dont know what you talking about. what giant sword fetish.
Well, you know what they say about boys with giant swords...
they're anime protagonists/antagonists
One thing that I find hilarious is that teams would rather wait another 20 minutes to find a support than take me with some of my "trolly" support picks.
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One thing that I find hilarious is that teams would rather wait another 20 minutes to find a support than take me with some of my "trolly" support picks.
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All you have to do as support Cas is find a good Teemo adc to duo with :3
I actually did that with my adc duo buddy and we fed horribly... He's a much better graves lol
One thing that I find hilarious is that teams would rather wait another 20 minutes to find a support than take me with some of my "trolly" support picks.
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Does AP Syndra support work? Just asking because I wanna try her since I got her from mystery champion and too scared to take her mid
It definitely does, but you need to know how to play syndra well before you play it. She does have solid poke and decent zoning, but her cc can be hard to land. Support syndra is harder to play because YOU make the picks and (some) engages and peel well for your adc, whereas mid syndra just nukes the fuck out of people. AP Syndra support CAN do that, but a little bit later on than mid syndra. All of the supports that I mentioned in my post work well as supports, whether it's through zoning, nuking, or just trolling. People think that supports have to have cc to do well, but they completely disregard the laning phase when they say that. Being able to zone someone really hard in lane with the likes of cass ap mf lb and syndra is underrated but can do a lot to hurt the enemy adc.
Honestly, not one of these are functional as Supports in any way except MAYBE Orianna and Rammus. I would indeed rather wait another 20 minutes or just cycle rooms till I find one with a support if you're gonna play AP Shaco support, because I'd rather have a full AP Lux/Nidalee supporting me in that case.
Define functional. All of them have some forms of cc and poke as well as a devastating all in. I find it unbelievable that people would rather take a bad "meta" pick (aka a leona that is engaging at horrible times or not peeling for their adc) than someone like me who is good at off meta or "not functional" picks onto their team. While they might not know it in champ select, I do much better when I support on these champions than on most others, and I main support. I will say that once laning phase is over shaco as a support is weaker than say, AP lux, but shaco can assassinate an adc far better than lux can, as well as make some incredibly trolly picks and plays using his ultimate. Even though he only has one meaningful form of cc he can still be played well as a support. I got reported once on ap shaco when I went 4/0 with an afk adc by my 0/6 toplaner. What's up with that? If I can play well in the position that I choose with the champion I choose, why tell me I shouldn't do it? I respect your support preferences and how you wouldn't like to lane with me, but don't you ever tell someone they can't play something. It's a game, so let me have my fun.
The 'bad meta pick Leona' you describe is only bad because of how she is played, not her kit. Played correctly she would offer a ton more in teamfights (due to her passive and ability to engage) and for peeling for her adc than Shaco.
Not to mention, some of 'off meta' supports are really just midlaners who are trying to beat the queue. No one likes having to compete with CS with their support.
Why do people always think that off meta supports steal their cs? It's annoying. I said I'm going support, so I'm still going to act like one. I will save towers from mobs of minions later on but I never try to steal my adc's farm. I see what you mean about Leona vs shaco and I agree. But I'm a very bad Leona, and I'm a very good ap shaco.rammus/syndra/ori/ap Caitlyn etc. If you knew that, wouldn't you rather have me play one of them than Leona? I know that even if I am bad I can still be some use as Leona, but if I end up feeding on her vs going positive and getting loads of kills and assists on other champs, I think you would agree that I would be more useful with them.
I have gotten accepted as some of the worst champs for support, like
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Some people are just that desperate. (I know some people can probably make it work, but they're still horrible at assisting teammates in ways besides doing damage to the enemy)
At least morde can steal the enemy adc, but I'm not really sure why anyone would accept a kat support XD But as one of my mottos as an AP support main, death is the best cc =3=
It sounds mean but I main sup and this is exactly what I do. I'm the best sup in the world though so its okay =3.
while your 71% win rate with janna is impressive, your ranked game record determined that your claim was false
I just haven't found the right people to get for my team yet. Care to audition. You know you want to your already a fan checking my games and stuff.
It's either that or all the other players on your team think they can dictate what champion you choose to sup w/. "pick x champion." Like cmon guy I'd rather choose one of the sup champs i'm good at and can still synergize with the team.
I thought this was gonna be a joke about how Supporting in teambuilder almost always finds you a game in under 6 seconds.
That long? What, do you have 100 consecutive losses on every support or something? Or are you just running support Sivir?
Takes me two seconds, max.
I must have some bad karma to be taking so long.
Takes me about 3-5 seconds to get a game with support Shaco. (Yes, I actually do this on occasion).
Oh god that sounds like an eternity.
Support Shaco has its... advantages. I hope you take ignite over exhaust, might be more useful!
Although, people in TB are really desperate for supports. Teams with four squishies will take a Soraka because it takes so damn long to find one, and you know I'm going to dodge that team~
i dont get it
Takes a long ass time to find a support Finding a team as a support takes seconds
A support player is allowed to be picky about their team because it takes seconds to find another.
yeah, also, every support that leaves a que in teambuilder for no reason is why I've started to hate everyone. takes me 9 minutes to find one of you fucks, then you leave before I can even say hi. bastard.
Not all supports fit every team comp, or a team comp has issues.
I tend to dodge a team of four squishies if I'm playing Soraka, for instance. The team is desperate for a support, but I'm just not a good fit.
And I tend to dodge a team if they have four glass cannons in general. You need a frontline, and I'm not comfortable being the only one with defensive abilities.
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team commander chooses to let you in before you see the comp. that means we want you, and what you bring to the table, now not all team commanders are the same, but generally I pick something either good for the team or something that has potential to be. until like 6 of you disappear then I'll start taking any support in the game. or people that say their supports. I've taken a support singed before. and a support twitch.
But hey, I'm not a complete dick. I usually just voice why I can't be part of the team (such as the Soraka+four glass cannons issue) before leaving.
But a lot of team leaders take any support since it takes so damn long to find one, but it takes two seconds for a support to find a team. Really wish Rito could or would do something about that.
hey man, that makes you one of like five, and that's great, I like those five people.
a way to get people to play the role they like best is probably a proper tutorial that teaches all the roles, as well as incentivizing the lesser played roles.
Yeah, a real tutorial would be nice. Who builds thornmail on Ashe?
I'm not sure how we could do that latter thing, other than the obvious "more IP" or whatever. More champion mastery points? o.O
who ever said it needed to be something that's already part of the game? just about anything could do.
I'll probably find a better team if I see 3 assassins on my team and the adc, with me as the squishy Janna or something. Cause you know they will make YOU tank even if you can't.