Quill Coat/Golem Spirit are worse than the old path.

Polaritie·7/2/2014, 3:51:38 PM·3 votes·353 views

I do not recall the last time I got beat up so fast jungling Sejuani.

Several issues here.

1-Sejuani (and many tanky junglers) have their initial clear nerfed badly by the Machete changes. Losing the % damage boost to their abilities hurts them tremendously, because they just don't attack that fast, but rely heavily on ability output. Also, one less HP pot going in hurts.

2-Quill Coat's HP return is pathetic. Even with Sejuani's passive, armor on the item, armor from masteries, and armor from runes... I was still getting mangled badly - it just slowed the bleeding a little. I used to be able to easily hit Spirit Stone+boots 1 off my first outing, and the second last easily to Golem. Now? I barely had enough for Quill at first back (I couldn't even tack on a pink), my second back was fast enough I couldn't even complete Kindlegem... I only got Spirit third back because of assist gold.

3-Golem still doesn't provide enough return. I mean, it's 12 HP/sec. Jungle camps are doing more than that easy to me, and it doesn't scale with the number of targets (while the old passive did, since AoE on wraiths returned health for each wraith hit).

I realize this is just an anecdote and I don't have any math in this... but I absolutely should not still be just shy of breaking even on health at a jungle camp with Golem, Tabi, Chain Mail, and Sejuani's passive on top of runes/masteries. Most offensive junglers are at this point by the time they upgrade Machete.

Riot, you need to hotfix the shit out of this, because you just nerfed tanky junglers hard. If my opponent had been any offensive jungler, they could have knocked me over by spitting I was so low from camps my first few outings.

7 Comments

GundayMonday7/2/2014, 8:38:09 PM1 votes

How do you rune/mastery sejuani? I think you're doing something off there because this item is a HUGE sej buff if you build her correctly. Happy to help theory craft with you and get your early clear in the right place (Plat Sej main here).